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James Franco is the white Donald Glover
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Post by Talent Name on Mar 31, 2019 7:13:26 GMT -5
"Jericho isn't up here in New York. He's down there... in HELL!!"
Hey hey, he's in Florida
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 7:19:32 GMT -5
Is there a context on the podcast that makes him sound more sour grapes than these quotes do? It sounds like he's just giving straight information without editorializing and here he's getting beat up like he's picking a fight. I'd say "I'm pretty much public enemy number 1" is editorialising juuuust a little. Plus, other than WWE not allowing him to have people on his podcast, all his information is just lies. That's why people are giving him a hard time, trying to blow up a minor thing into a whole "I'm banished, I'm such a cool outsider" bit. Fair enough. He seems like an odd duck I just don't really get the "f*** him" energy going on.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 31, 2019 7:22:13 GMT -5
So when AEW goes tits up, how fast does Jericho call Vince? “Supplicants though that door”
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 31, 2019 8:08:44 GMT -5
I love Jericho. One of my top 10 faves. That said, he's starting to get sad now
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Mar 31, 2019 9:11:34 GMT -5
Somehow I doubt WWE is really being all that wrathful over it considering they let him wear his Alpha Club shirt on Raw once. But that was from New Japan, and we all know New Japan is too Asian to be on Vince's radar.
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Post by thetower52 on Mar 31, 2019 9:12:03 GMT -5
Jericho is kinda an assclown
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 9:32:21 GMT -5
In Jericho speak, this would usually mean "I'll be on Raw tomorrow."
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Post by KobashiChop on Mar 31, 2019 9:34:57 GMT -5
Theres a subsection of the AEW demographic who get off on AWE being the enemy. Jericho knows his audience.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 31, 2019 9:37:50 GMT -5
WWE are kind of idiots. Jericho’s podcast is probably #2 wrestling pod behind Austin, and presumably a lot of people who listen to Talk is Jericho are wrestling fans. So yeah, let’s be petty douchebags and not let our competitor try and promote the biggest annual wrestling event in the world for us. Makes sense.
Literally all it would take is saying “Sure Chris, Seth can do TiJ to promote WrestleMania. But if you start talking about AEW, we won’t allow the episode to release”
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Mar 31, 2019 10:07:58 GMT -5
WWE are kind of idiots. Jericho’s podcast is probably #2 wrestling pod behind Austin, and presumably a lot of people who listen to Talk is Jericho are wrestling fans. So yeah, let’s be petty douchebags and not let our competitor try and promote the biggest annual wrestling event in the world for us. Makes sense. Literally all it would take is saying “Sure Chris, Seth can do TiJ to promote WrestleMania. But if you start talking about AEW, we won’t allow the episode to release” They don’t have control over that stuff. Jericho could have the wrestler on and then litter the entire episode with ads for the competition. WWE has no right to block that episode, they aren’t the distributor. Why even bother. Anyone listening to a Chris Jericho podcast knows what Wrestlemania is.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 31, 2019 10:10:17 GMT -5
Jericho's a carny's carny. Pretty much. For the most part, just assume dude's working all the time.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 31, 2019 10:15:22 GMT -5
WWE are kind of idiots. Jericho’s podcast is probably #2 wrestling pod behind Austin, and presumably a lot of people who listen to Talk is Jericho are wrestling fans. So yeah, let’s be petty douchebags and not let our competitor try and promote the biggest annual wrestling event in the world for us. Makes sense. Literally all it would take is saying “Sure Chris, Seth can do TiJ to promote WrestleMania. But if you start talking about AEW, we won’t allow the episode to release” They don’t have control over that stuff. Jericho could have the wrestler on and then litter the entire episode with ads for the competition. WWE has no right to block that episode, they aren’t the distributor. Why even bother. Anyone listening to a Chris Jericho podcast knows what Wrestlemania is. It’s called a contract. You can use our performers, if you don’t use that episode to promote AEW. Simple as that. Do you really think WWE doesn’t dictate the terms of when one of their wrestlers does a media appearance? And Vince is Vince, that dude would’ve looked Johnny Carson in the eyes and tried to tell him how he wants Hulk Hogan interviewed. As to why bother, you’re a goddamn fool for not taking the opportunity to promote your event in every possible way other then a attending a Klan rally. People forget shit. There might be a cat who only watches a couple times a year who listens to TiJ, and is like “Oh shit, WrestleMania is this weekend? Let’s call the guys and have a party”
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 31, 2019 10:16:39 GMT -5
WWE are kind of idiots. Jericho’s podcast is probably #2 wrestling pod behind Austin, and presumably a lot of people who listen to Talk is Jericho are wrestling fans. So yeah, let’s be petty douchebags and not let our competitor try and promote the biggest annual wrestling event in the world for us. Makes sense. Literally all it would take is saying “Sure Chris, Seth can do TiJ to promote WrestleMania. But if you start talking about AEW, we won’t allow the episode to release” He's not reaching a wider audience than the WWE though, it would be one thing if he were a nations radio star whose fanbase is mainstream, but he's not, he's a guy who appeals to an audience that most likely already have the network. He benefits more from WWE connections more than they benefit from him and the WWE are under no obligation to give him access to piggyback on their work, the time, effort and money spent on building up talent and shows so he can keep his little empire afloat. I don't usually side with the company on these things, but come on, he knew this loss of access would happen.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 31, 2019 10:21:11 GMT -5
WWE are kind of idiots. Jericho’s podcast is probably #2 wrestling pod behind Austin, and presumably a lot of people who listen to Talk is Jericho are wrestling fans. So yeah, let’s be petty douchebags and not let our competitor try and promote the biggest annual wrestling event in the world for us. Makes sense. Literally all it would take is saying “Sure Chris, Seth can do TiJ to promote WrestleMania. But if you start talking about AEW, we won’t allow the episode to release” He's not reaching a wider audience Tha the WWE though, it would be one thing if he were a nations radio star whose fanbase os mainstream, but he's not, he's a guy who appeals to an audience that most likely already have the network. He benefits more from WWE connections more than they benefit from him and the WWE are under no obligation to give him access to piggyback on their work, the time, effort and money spent on building up talent and shows so he can keep his little empire afloat. I don't usually side with the company on these things, but come on, he knew this loss of access would happen. I’d be willing to bet my f***ing house that there are people who listen to TiJ who don’t actively watch wrestling. Guaranf***ingtee it. Jericho ain’t Colt Cabana, he’s got legitimate big name celebrities doing his show and it appeals to more then just the wrestling audience. That’s why Jericho doesn’t do an exclusively wrestling podcast, to widen his fan base. He gets musicians, actors, some of the weird paranormal shit, all to appeal to nonwrestling fans. Hell, his TV show barely talks about his wrestling EDIT: I got off track. My point was I’d guarantee you there are people listening to TiJ, who might not realise what date Mania is but are willing to watch for $10
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 31, 2019 10:23:56 GMT -5
He's not reaching a wider audience Tha the WWE though, it would be one thing if he were a nations radio star whose fanbase os mainstream, but he's not, he's a guy who appeals to an audience that most likely already have the network. He benefits more from WWE connections more than they benefit from him and the WWE are under no obligation to give him access to piggyback on their work, the time, effort and money spent on building up talent and shows so he can keep his little empire afloat. I don't usually side with the company on these things, but come on, he knew this loss of access would happen. I’d be willing to bet my f***ing house that there are people who listen to TiJ who don’t actively watch wrestling. Guaranf***ingtee it. Jericho ain’t Colt Cabana, he’s got legitimate big name celebrities doing his show and it appeals to more then just the wrestling audience. That’s why Jericho doesn’t do an exclusively wrestling podcast, to widen his fan base. He gets musicians, actors, some of the weird paranormal shit, all to appeal to nonwrestling fans. Hell, his TV show barely talks about his wrestling EDIT: I got off track. My point was I’d guarantee you there are people listening to TiJ, who might not realise what date Mania is but are willing to watch for $10 But then what happens when his bosses at AEW turn around and say "You're under contract to us, you have to promote us on your podcast".
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Mar 31, 2019 10:25:14 GMT -5
Trying to please both sides/talk out of both sides of your mouth rarely pays off.
And being the longtime fan and competitor that he was, Jericho should have remembered what happens when someone goes to a competing company. Still true today, though AEW is unproven and Impact? Nuff said.
(Only time I can remember former competitors continue to be acknowledged was the Attitude Era, for the sake of Russo SHOOTING~! promos)
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Mar 31, 2019 10:25:35 GMT -5
For all the "Jericho's a drunk" talk, you're missing one thing. He's one of the very best marketers in the business. It's how he's been able to reinvent himself over the years, build a successful podcast AND cruise, etc.
This is another example of that marketer's mind at work. How do you rile up more support for Chris and get people to want to support him -- and his recently announced 2nd cruise? Make it "us vs. them." It's what Cody and the Bucks do so well.
I'm sure they're not thrilled right now, but best believe they'll welcome him back with open arms in a couple of years time when it's time for Jericho to go in the Hall of Fame.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 31, 2019 10:30:46 GMT -5
I’d be willing to bet my f***ing house that there are people who listen to TiJ who don’t actively watch wrestling. Guaranf***ingtee it. Jericho ain’t Colt Cabana, he’s got legitimate big name celebrities doing his show and it appeals to more then just the wrestling audience. That’s why Jericho doesn’t do an exclusively wrestling podcast, to widen his fan base. He gets musicians, actors, some of the weird paranormal shit, all to appeal to nonwrestling fans. Hell, his TV show barely talks about his wrestling EDIT: I got off track. My point was I’d guarantee you there are people listening to TiJ, who might not realise what date Mania is but are willing to watch for $10 But then what happens when his bosses at AEW turn around and say "You're under contract to us, you have to promote us on your podcast". Legitimately may happen, and at that point he’d have to acquiesce to AEW. But that also doesn’t seem like a card Khan would pull. I think shy of a talent exchange, AEW is willing to play ball with WWE. I don’t think they see them as the enemy in an Eric Bischoff way EDIT: The vibe I get from Tony Khan and The Elite is they’re more interested in having the Impact/WWE 2019 relationship then the TNA/WWE 2009 relationship. But I think WWE is looking at it like 2009 TNA
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Mar 31, 2019 10:39:47 GMT -5
But then what happens when his bosses at AEW turn around and say "You're under contract to us, you have to promote us on your podcast". Legitimately may happen, and at that point he’d have to acquiesce to AEW. But that also doesn’t seem like a card Khan would pull. I think shy of a talent exchange, AEW is willing to play ball with WWE. I don’t think they see them as the enemy in an Eric Bischoff way EDIT: The vibe I get from Tony Khan and The Elite is they’re more interested in having the Impact/WWE 2019 relationship then the TNA/WWE 2009 relationship. But I think WWE is looking at it like 2009 TNA But in this situation, it's WWE picking the fight. Khan might not say "no WWE mentions ever" but Jericho is still an employee, and should still be working for him and promoting his product. It'd be Vince saying you're not allowed to mention who you work for or you're cut off. Khan's pretty smart, he knows if he lets it happen one time, Vince would send a WWE guy every time so AEW is shut out on a show run by one of their own guys.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 31, 2019 10:44:23 GMT -5
Legitimately may happen, and at that point he’d have to acquiesce to AEW. But that also doesn’t seem like a card Khan would pull. I think shy of a talent exchange, AEW is willing to play ball with WWE. I don’t think they see them as the enemy in an Eric Bischoff way EDIT: The vibe I get from Tony Khan and The Elite is they’re more interested in having the Impact/WWE 2019 relationship then the TNA/WWE 2009 relationship. But I think WWE is looking at it like 2009 TNA But in this situation, it's WWE picking the fight. Khan might not say "no WWE mentions ever" but Jericho is still an employee, and should still be working for him and promoting his product. It'd be Vince saying you're not allowed to mention who you work for or you're cut off. Khan's pretty smart, he knows if he lets it happen one time, Vince would send a WWE guy every time so AEW is shut out on a show run by one of their own guys. You do raise a valid point, and it would absolutely be Vince being a dick about things. Like, it’s in his best interest to have a friendly rivalry with AEW but he’ll be going for the f***ing jugular. I never thought of the fact that Vince would try and send someone to TiJ every week to choke out AEW promotion, but that is absolutely something he would try and pull
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