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Post by Lance Uppercut on Apr 2, 2019 2:38:06 GMT -5
I was just thinking about how it seems like we’re having a Wrestlemania without the Undertaker and John Cena and I made me think of last year’s match.
At the time, it was so weird that they never officially made this match until halfway into the actual show. But considering how short and how much of a squash it was, it was perfect. People who wanted this match was expecting a classic. So if they did the traditional months long build, it would be a total let down. This way, people were just glad to actually get the match and John Cena was so annoying about it, it was Cathartic to see him get an ass whipping that he is coming to him.
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Post by rocnsoc88 on Apr 2, 2019 3:55:03 GMT -5
The build to Brock beating the streak at WrestleMania 30 comes to mind.
Everyone was baffled as to why Brock was being built up as being so weak compared to the Undertaker. Setting aside the odd psychology of the heel being booked as an underdog who has very little chance of beating the babyface, the money for this match was clearly in Brock being built as an unstoppable monster who was a real threat to the streak. Instead, by the time Mania 30 came around, nobody really cared and everyone just assumed that this would be a fairly forgettable Undertaker streak match that Taker was in no danger of losing.
And then of course came the shocking finish.
In retrospect, the logic behind the unexciting build was staring at us in the face the whole time: Taker was being portrayed as being nearly unstoppable so that his loss would mean more for Brock in beating him. I don’t necessarily agree with their logic behind booking Brock as so unthreatening, but it at least makes a lot more sense in retrospect.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 2, 2019 6:32:05 GMT -5
Enzo and Cass never winning the nxt tag titles at the first Brooklyn Takeover. Or on the main roster to a lesser extent.
You go by overness and location it made little sense, now we know their backstage reputation it does.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on Apr 2, 2019 16:30:05 GMT -5
I was just thinking about how it seems like we’re having a Wrestlemania without the Undertaker and John Cena and I made me think of last year’s match. At the time, it was so weird that they never officially made this match until halfway into the actual show. But considering how short and how much of a squash it was, it was perfect. People who wanted this match was expecting a classic. So if they did the traditional months long build, it would be a total let down. This way, people were just glad to actually get the match and John Cena was so annoying about it, it was Cathartic to see him get an ass whipping that he is coming to him. I will continue to bang on the drum that the match would have been even better to never have had happened. John Cena should have shouted into the void until the night of wrestlemania he is shown in the crowd all throughout the night, just waiting for the Undertaker to answer his challenge. But someday never comes, The Undertaker was killed by the Big Dog and only blood money is able to bring him back. It would have been the actual perfect resolution to the story they were telling. The match being a squash is a decent second place, however. |
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 2, 2019 16:40:15 GMT -5
The build to Brock beating the streak at WrestleMania 30 comes to mind. Everyone was baffled as to why Brock was being built up as being so weak compared to the Undertaker. Setting aside the odd psychology of the heel being booked as an underdog who has very little chance of beating the babyface, the money for this match was clearly in Brock being built as an unstoppable monster who was a real threat to the streak. Instead, by the time Mania 30 came around, nobody really cared and everyone just assumed that this would be a fairly forgettable Undertaker streak match that Taker was in no danger of losing. And then of course came the shocking finish. In retrospect, the logic behind the unexciting build was staring at us in the face the whole time: Taker was being portrayed as being nearly unstoppable so that his loss would mean more for Brock in beating him. I don’t necessarily agree with their logic behind booking Brock as so unthreatening, but it at least makes a lot more sense in retrospect. I f***ing hated the idea of Lesnar/Taker because I just assumed Brock was jobbing again, but instead it kicked off him getting treated like the monster he should be |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 2, 2019 16:45:44 GMT -5
The build to Brock beating the streak at WrestleMania 30 comes to mind. Everyone was baffled as to why Brock was being built up as being so weak compared to the Undertaker. Setting aside the odd psychology of the heel being booked as an underdog who has very little chance of beating the babyface, the money for this match was clearly in Brock being built as an unstoppable monster who was a real threat to the streak. Instead, by the time Mania 30 came around, nobody really cared and everyone just assumed that this would be a fairly forgettable Undertaker streak match that Taker was in no danger of losing. And then of course came the shocking finish. In retrospect, the logic behind the unexciting build was staring at us in the face the whole time: Taker was being portrayed as being nearly unstoppable so that his loss would mean more for Brock in beating him. I don’t necessarily agree with their logic behind booking Brock as so unthreatening, but it at least makes a lot more sense in retrospect. I'm not sure how much that's not just hindsight working well for you, didn't people say Vince only decided Taker was losing on the day of the show? Enzo and Cass never winning the nxt tag titles at the first Brooklyn Takeover. Or on the main roster to a lesser extent. You go by overness and location it made little sense, now we know their backstage reputation it does. Which reversing both elements makes Roman make more sense too. |
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Post by rocnsoc88 on Apr 3, 2019 16:16:09 GMT -5
The build to Brock beating the streak at WrestleMania 30 comes to mind. Everyone was baffled as to why Brock was being built up as being so weak compared to the Undertaker. Setting aside the odd psychology of the heel being booked as an underdog who has very little chance of beating the babyface, the money for this match was clearly in Brock being built as an unstoppable monster who was a real threat to the streak. Instead, by the time Mania 30 came around, nobody really cared and everyone just assumed that this would be a fairly forgettable Undertaker streak match that Taker was in no danger of losing. And then of course came the shocking finish. In retrospect, the logic behind the unexciting build was staring at us in the face the whole time: Taker was being portrayed as being nearly unstoppable so that his loss would mean more for Brock in beating him. I don’t necessarily agree with their logic behind booking Brock as so unthreatening, but it at least makes a lot more sense in retrospect. I'm not sure how much that's not just hindsight working well for you, didn't people say Vince only decided Taker was losing on the day of the show? The final decision was alleged to be very last-minute, but I have no doubt that Vince must have been seriously considering ending the streak during the build. Otherwise, booking Brock as such a non-threat in the build has no logic to it all, even by Vince’s standards. |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 16:19:10 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much that's not just hindsight working well for you, didn't people say Vince only decided Taker was losing on the day of the show? The final decision was alleged to be very last-minute, but I have no doubt that Vince must have been seriously considering ending the streak during the build. Otherwise, booking Brock as such a non-threat in the build has no logic to it all, even by Vince’s standards. I would typically agree had Brock not been booked like arsewater before Mania XXX. He had what, four matches? Jobbed to Cena, beat Triple H, jobbed to Triple H while being made to look terrible, beat Triple H again, had a non-match with Big Show and then broke the Streak and the world killer was born. |
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Post by Venti on Apr 3, 2019 17:29:30 GMT -5
I'm sure it was dumb luck and not on purpose, but '18 seconds' at Wrestlemania 28 ended up being a vital moment in Daniel Bryan's rise to the top and had the best outcome.
Seth Rollins as a heel looking weak against Lesnar in 2015 seems to have come full circle, now with redeemed face Rollins three & a half years later being treated as a legitimate threat to Brock.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Apr 3, 2019 18:01:24 GMT -5
The very first face turn of Goldust.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 3, 2019 18:04:18 GMT -5
Becky’s booking prior to last year, which only serves to further what she’s been doing as The Man in hindsight.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 19:41:13 GMT -5
Elias losing the Samson. Just being Elias really suits his delusional rockstar character.
I strongly doubt I'll ever be complimenting the subtraction of 'Mustafa'.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 20:08:35 GMT -5
Randy Orton willingly letting Brock Lesnar split his wig open. Dude got to win the Rumble and get the title at Mania so it worked out for him
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