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Post by Spider2024 on Apr 3, 2019 6:50:35 GMT -5
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and say Kofi losing would lose them even MORE viewers, that's how disastrous it'd be. They really can't afford to do that. Becky losing would do serious damage to her, but I don't see it as the sky is falling scenario it was a couple months ago anymore. I would also say that Kofi Winning is more of a necessity than Becky Winning, but only slightly since Becky is still THE MAN, and is, in fact, the only face in the Main Event match this year, she almost has to win based on that fact (although I think they could spin Ronda winning it IF Ronda sticks around for 1 more year.) Seth is unfortunately the odd man out of the 3, since the 'E seems to love Invisible Brock as their universe's champion. He could very well retain again through a WM for the second year in a row if they decided to do a swerve for swerve's sake.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 6:56:25 GMT -5
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and say Kofi losing would lose them even MORE viewers, that's how disastrous it'd be. They really can't afford to do that. Becky losing would do serious damage to her, but I don't see it as the sky is falling scenario it was a couple months ago anymore. I would also say that Kofi Winning is more of a necessity than Becky Winning, but only slightly since Becky is still THE MAN, and is, in fact, the only face in the Main Event match this year, she almost has to win based on that fact (although I think they could spin Ronda winning it IF Ronda sticks around for 1 more year.) Seth is unfortunately the odd man out of the 3, since the 'E seems to love Invisible Brock as their universe's champion. He could very well retain again through a WM for the second year in a row if they decided to do a swerve for swerve's sake. It'd be hard to take Becky seriously if she loses (even if she's not the one getting pinned/submitted), but I just doubt it'd have the effect on the audience that Kofi losing would. His story has surpassed hers.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 3, 2019 6:56:43 GMT -5
If Kofi loses it’s going to be hard to see the WWE as not racist on some level. Everybody already sees WWE as Racist. Even if Kofi wins, WWE is still going to be seen as Racist. Vince pals around with the wrong Chief Executives, Pal. (And he also hired Hogan back.)
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Post by Dub H on Apr 3, 2019 7:00:03 GMT -5
It seems I will lose the bet and I'm okay with this.
Gonna give props to the WWE for just rolling with something good without fighting against it
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 11:46:14 GMT -5
The implied racism and Vince putting his stamp on this is the major reason Kofi has to win. Vince is giving his approval on screen and off screen basically along with i'm sure DB giving his approval offscreen
The cards seem aligned right for Kofi to get this win. If they didn't add the touch of racism I would have said f*** it Kofi losses and move on but you are setting yourself up for failure doing that and still having him lose. You took the look good in defeat option off the table
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 3, 2019 12:46:19 GMT -5
I'm sure Bryan's fighting tooth & nail backstage to put Kofi over.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 3, 2019 12:54:45 GMT -5
This would be a good year for Becky, Kofi and Seth to all triumph. It just feels right.
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Post by wildojinx on Apr 3, 2019 13:09:57 GMT -5
Yeah, if Kofi loses, it doesnt matter if the ghosts of Mildred Burke, Mae Young, Luna Vachon, and Chyna all show up to congratulate Becky, that crowd is hijacking the rest of the show.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 3, 2019 13:44:42 GMT -5
Yeah, if Kofi loses, it doesnt matter if the ghosts of Mildred Burke, Mae Young, Luna Vachon, and Chyna all show up to congratulate Becky, that crowd is hijacking the rest of the show. It'd be amazing to have to watch Cole try to spin 4 straight hours of "VINCE IS RACIST" chants.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Apr 3, 2019 14:26:02 GMT -5
I'd like to think they'll have Kofi win and not revisit the Booker T fiasco from WrestleMania 19. Kofi feels like Eddie Guerrero in 2004: He doesn't need to hold the title for long, but him holding it at all makes him a viable main event player anytime they need one.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 3, 2019 14:34:36 GMT -5
Yeah, if Kofi loses, it doesnt matter if the ghosts of Mildred Burke, Mae Young, Luna Vachon, and Chyna all show up to congratulate Becky, that crowd is hijacking the rest of the show. It’ll give that crowd a bigger incentive to chant the things John Oliver suggested.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Apr 3, 2019 16:30:48 GMT -5
Whether he wants to or not? Needs to be booked for the King of the Ring tournament. 'There's no King, in this Kofi Kingston!' Well ,I agree,but mostly because I think people are alreay disappointed with the Becky storyline . But I think both are equally over,Kofi's Saga is moving ratings and Becky is moving merch,both should be proud either way. They're 1 and 2, for sure. It's just really telling that I've seen so many fellow hardcore Becky fans lose interest in the build to her match while Kofi's chase has stayed the hottest story since at least EC. Well yeah, because Becky despite being hot is mostly being booked like shit and Kofi isn't. Becky was mega over before, still very over now, but I'm definitely more interested in Kofi's match - and I'm one of the biggest Women's Revolution apologists on this board. At this point if I had to pick I'd rather Kofi win than Becky. For real, it says everything about how utterly joyless WWE is that pretty much everyone's going, "Now hold on, they can't make people TOO happy." It really is completely baffling. Whenever I go to an indie show and the booking is all exactly what the fans want, even when heels win, I am so surprised by it. For real, it says everything about how utterly joyless WWE is that pretty much everyone's going, "Now hold on, they can't make people TOO happy." That’s assuming that everyone wants Rollins, Kofi & Lynch to win though. Which I don’t think is true. The majority will be pissed I’d imagine yes but Rollins or Kofi losing isn’t going to make me lose sleep. Neither are top main event talent imo. Of course not, there were people hating Austin, Hogan and Rock too, but they were sure a whole lot quieter than the thousands of other people in the room. You will never be able to please everyone, true. But you'll never be able to please everyone. And WWE has shown an occasionally even openly acknowledged desire to f*** with what the fans want. I'd like to think they'll have Kofi win and not revisit the Booker T fiasco from WrestleMania 19. Kofi feels like Eddie Guerrero in 2004: He doesn't need to hold the title for long, but him holding it at all makes him a viable main event player anytime they need one. Perfect character comparison there, good work.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 11:43:50 GMT -5
Yeah, if Kofi loses, it doesnt matter if the ghosts of Mildred Burke, Mae Young, Luna Vachon, and Chyna all show up to congratulate Becky, that crowd is hijacking the rest of the show. I feel like Becky miiiiiight manage to win them back, but the time in between? Yeah, crowd is going to be DONE.
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Post by 4real on Apr 4, 2019 11:51:18 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the crowd will be dead if Kofi loses. I might be wrong and we’ll have to see but Kofi is facing Daniel Bryan who is pretty much beloved. Not Lesnar. Not HHH. Not Cena. Not pre late 2018 Reigns. Daniel Bryan. The guy who couldn’t wrestle a year ago.
Unless Bryan is truly that great a heel that indeed a Kofi defeat would kill the show. Time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 12:15:02 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the crowd will be dead if Kofi loses. I might be wrong and we’ll have to see but Kofi is facing Daniel Bryan who is pretty much beloved. Not Lesnar. Not HHH. Not Cena. Not pre late 2018 Reigns. Daniel Bryan. The guy who couldn’t wrestle a year ago. Unless Bryan is truly that great a heel that indeed a Kofi defeat would kill the show. Time will tell. I mean, on SmackDown both of them had to end up rushing their promos because the crowd was booing Bryan and cheering Kofi so much it was keeping Bryan from saying everything.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 4, 2019 12:21:48 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the crowd will be dead if Kofi loses. I might be wrong and we’ll have to see but Kofi is facing Daniel Bryan who is pretty much beloved. Not Lesnar. Not HHH. Not Cena. Not pre late 2018 Reigns. Daniel Bryan. The guy who couldn’t wrestle a year ago. Unless Bryan is truly that great a heel that indeed a Kofi defeat would kill the show. Time will tell. Have you been keeping up with Smackdown? Bryan as a heel has been crazy, he has them booing him and chanting "Kofi" over his promos. Dude's put in the world to make the crowd loathe him, and that was all after Elimination Chamber where they didn't even have quite the emotional core going yet and even still Bryan retaining made the crowd flatline into awkward silence. Daniel Bryan has worked a perfect turnaround with his heel work and the crowd is ready to hate him completely.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 12:40:05 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the crowd will be dead if Kofi loses. I might be wrong and we’ll have to see but Kofi is facing Daniel Bryan who is pretty much beloved. Not Lesnar. Not HHH. Not Cena. Not pre late 2018 Reigns. Daniel Bryan. The guy who couldn’t wrestle a year ago. Unless Bryan is truly that great a heel that indeed a Kofi defeat would kill the show. Time will tell. Have you been keeping up with Smackdown? Bryan as a heel has been crazy, he has them booing him and chanting "Kofi" over his promos. Dude's put in the world to make the crowd loathe him, and that was all after Elimination Chamber where they didn't even have quite the emotional core going yet and even still Bryan retaining made the crowd flatline into awkward silence. Daniel Bryan has worked a perfect turnaround with his heel work and the crowd is ready to hate him completely. Yeah, Elimination Chamber is a good show of this - that was Kofi losing a throwaway filler title match with a single show worth of build and the crowd went completely dead silent. After this chase, being screwed time and time again, and the racial angle, losing again would result in the crowd being either completely dead or completely pissed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 12:43:07 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the crowd will be dead if Kofi loses. I might be wrong and we’ll have to see but Kofi is facing Daniel Bryan who is pretty much beloved. Not Lesnar. Not HHH. Not Cena. Not pre late 2018 Reigns. Daniel Bryan. The guy who couldn’t wrestle a year ago. Unless Bryan is truly that great a heel that indeed a Kofi defeat would kill the show. Time will tell. I'm not sure how much of the show you've seen these past few months but Bryan isn't as beloved as he used to be. Hell, Bryan couldn't even get a promo out Tuesday due to the crowd chanting Kofi's name and you also factor into the fact that Bryan's a great heel. Kofi's really the most popular male star on the roster as the moment too. You're saying time will tell but all signs point to this. Bryan hasn't been beloved like he used to be in a long time. Even during that Big Cass feud the guy wasn't getting mega-pops anymore.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 4, 2019 12:43:47 GMT -5
I don’t buy that the crowd will be dead if Kofi loses. I might be wrong and we’ll have to see but Kofi is facing Daniel Bryan who is pretty much beloved. Not Lesnar. Not HHH. Not Cena. Not pre late 2018 Reigns. Daniel Bryan. The guy who couldn’t wrestle a year ago. Unless Bryan is truly that great a heel that indeed a Kofi defeat would kill the show. Time will tell. DB is getting asshole chants
His heel run is fully invested in and while he will get some cheers, the point blank fact is Kofi is more popular than him right now and it's not even close. DB got his feel good return for mania last year, this year it is all business so I don't really see any residuals in terms of fans wanting the old DB back to cheer. Kofi has the fans side right now and it's been that way since Feb
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 14:16:59 GMT -5
Dead, no, but the crowd won't be happy and they'll be letting WWE know throughout the show. Kofi's the most popular person in the company and Bryan's indeed that great a heel.
At EC (not that I think Kofi should've won, I would've saved him winning for WM) you could almost hear a pin drop in the arena when Bryan retained.
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