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Post by realist on Apr 3, 2019 12:44:25 GMT -5
Funny enough, I just listened to his podcast with Lawler and Jericho during the Jericho Cruise. It was posted weeks ago but I finally got around to listening to it. Jim Ross was clearly drunk and actually letting out some of his frustrations about WWE, so this is far from a shock. Two of the more interesting things that he said was that Vince McMahon treated him worse than Lawler because he thought Ross was the more expendable of the two. He said, "Twenty years later, and they still haven't been able to replace me." Also, he was very critical of the Performance Center for announcers, saying that it was not the place to develop chemistry with announce partners. Then, on YouTube, I caught a snippet of him on Konnan's podcast, saying that WWE was paying him good money to sit a home. But the problem with that is that he is a lonely widower who lives alone in a huge house and wants to work. It was very sad. I'm rambling, but my point was to say that hopefully this gives him some meaning and direction in his life. If it sounds like I am insulting him, that is not my intent. I just felt his pain.
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Post by peterh1990 on Apr 3, 2019 12:46:04 GMT -5
Whether you love him or hate him, Jim Ross is a respected and admired name who knows the ins and out's and can help guide a set of unexperienced guys through some of the troubles they will no doubt encounter.
There's a reason why the WWE had him in senior positions for many years, and kept having him back. They don't do that for just anybody.
A good legit name for AEW to get.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 12:47:49 GMT -5
Funny enough, I just listened to his podcast with Lawler and Jericho during the Jericho Cruise. It was posted weeks ago but I finally got around to listening to it. Jim Ross was clearly drunk and actually letting out some of his frustrations about WWE, so this is far from a shock. Two of the more interesting things that he said was that Vince McMahon treated him worse than Lawler because he thought Ross was the more expendable of the two. He said, "Twenty years later, and they still haven't been able to replace me." Also, he was very critical of the Performance Center for announcers, saying that it was not the place to develop chemistry with announce partners. Then, on YouTube, I caught a snippet of him on Konnan's podcast, saying that WWE was paying him good money to sit a home. But the problem with that is that he is a lonely widower who lives alone in a huge house and wants to work. It was very sad. I'm rambling, but my point was to say that hopefully this gives him some meaning and direction in his life. If it sounds like I am insulting him, that is not my intent. I just felt his pain. I think that is the crux of it all essentially
WWE did right by him by paying him to just relax but he wants to do more and there is no problem with that either. He has a lot of backstage experience to offer Cody and the company
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Post by Dub H on Apr 3, 2019 12:49:24 GMT -5
AEW all in on that circa 2009 WWE reunion Better than WWE ,which is having a TNA Reunion
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 12:49:43 GMT -5
Oh boy that just reads like they’re throwing money at whoever and whatever. JR could be a great help backstage, but I don’t know if you needed to break the bank to get him.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 12:55:47 GMT -5
Oh boy that just reads like they’re throwing money at whoever and whatever. JR could be a great help backstage, but I don’t know if you needed to break the bank to get him. This is where "real sports" come into play
When you know you have a beat on a guy, you don't have to overbid to get them
Sure to get Omega and Jericho on exclusive deals you had to break the bank a bit but when you know someone like JR or even Gallows and Anderson in the near future is coming over and they want to come, don't go overboard. A nice fair market deal should do it
However, also got to consider they could be inflating these contracts and using words like lucrative to make it bigger than it seems but with the funds they got at their disposal idk
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 3, 2019 12:57:35 GMT -5
Oh boy that just reads like they’re throwing money at whoever and whatever. JR could be a great help backstage, but I don’t know if you needed to break the bank to get him. This is where "real sports" come into play When you know you have a beat on a guy, you don't have to overbid to get them
Sure to get Omega and Jericho on exclusive deals you had to break the bank a bit but when you know someone like JR or even Gallows and Anderson in the near future is coming over and they want to come, don't go overboard. A nice fair market deal should do it However, also got to consider they could be inflating these contracts and using words like lucrative to make it bigger than it seems but with the funds they got at their disposal idk
They’re clearly playing up the “lucrative” aspects for the press releases to get buzz and to make them seem as big league as possible.
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Post by realist on Apr 3, 2019 12:59:16 GMT -5
Oh boy that just reads like they’re throwing money at whoever and whatever. JR could be a great help backstage, but I don’t know if you needed to break the bank to get him. This is where "real sports" come into play
When you know you have a beat on a guy, you don't have to overbid to get them
Sure to get Omega and Jericho on exclusive deals you had to break the bank a bit but when you know someone like JR or even Gallows and Anderson in the near future is coming over and they want to come, don't go overboard. A nice fair market deal should do it
However, also got to consider they could be inflating these contracts and using words like lucrative to make it bigger than it seems but with the funds they got at their disposal idk
Actually, this is a classic Vince McMahon tactic. In 1998, Sean Waltman was fired from WCW. WWE hired him back as X-Pac with a huge contract. It was not only to get back the performer, but also to send the message to the WCW guys that they were willing to spend top dollar to be competitive. I think that AEW is trying to send that same message.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 3, 2019 12:59:45 GMT -5
Remember when Washington signed Deion Sanders and Bruce Smith because they were names, and they ended up being awful because they were well past their primes?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 13:00:07 GMT -5
This is where "real sports" come into play When you know you have a beat on a guy, you don't have to overbid to get them
Sure to get Omega and Jericho on exclusive deals you had to break the bank a bit but when you know someone like JR or even Gallows and Anderson in the near future is coming over and they want to come, don't go overboard. A nice fair market deal should do it However, also got to consider they could be inflating these contracts and using words like lucrative to make it bigger than it seems but with the funds they got at their disposal idk
They’re clearly playing up the “lucrative” aspects for the press releases to get buzz and to make them seem as big league as possible. Yeah oh course but you def want to keep that type of wording to the big deal guys tho it could get tiresome since almost every person you get will be a big deal
Fair play on their part tho
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Post by KofiMania on Apr 3, 2019 13:01:28 GMT -5
They’re clearly playing up the “lucrative” aspects for the press releases to get buzz and to make them seem as big league as possible. Yeah oh course but you def want to keep that type of wording to the big deal guys tho it could get tiresome since almost every person you get will be a big deal
Fair play on their part tho
I’ve seen that used so far for Jericho and Ross. And those are the two biggest “mainstream” names they have.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 13:01:46 GMT -5
This is where "real sports" come into play
When you know you have a beat on a guy, you don't have to overbid to get them
Sure to get Omega and Jericho on exclusive deals you had to break the bank a bit but when you know someone like JR or even Gallows and Anderson in the near future is coming over and they want to come, don't go overboard. A nice fair market deal should do it
However, also got to consider they could be inflating these contracts and using words like lucrative to make it bigger than it seems but with the funds they got at their disposal idk
Actually, this is a classic Vince McMahon tactic. In 1998, Sean Waltman was fired from WCW. WWE hired him back as X-Pac with a huge contract. It was not only to get back the performer, but also to send the message to the WCW guys that they were willing to spend top dollar to be competitive. I think that AEW is trying to send that same message. There is that too
To bring it back to real sports, it's like the Knicks. You don't have a reputation, so you have to overspend to get guys you want but once you get established you won't have to break the bank for everyone
AEW is showing they can at least match close enough to what WWE is dishing out. Is it smart right now to do? Ehh we got to see how they will operate
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 3, 2019 13:05:26 GMT -5
This is where "real sports" come into play When you know you have a beat on a guy, you don't have to overbid to get them
Sure to get Omega and Jericho on exclusive deals you had to break the bank a bit but when you know someone like JR or even Gallows and Anderson in the near future is coming over and they want to come, don't go overboard. A nice fair market deal should do it However, also got to consider they could be inflating these contracts and using words like lucrative to make it bigger than it seems but with the funds they got at their disposal idk
They’re clearly playing up the “lucrative” aspects for the press releases to get buzz and to make them seem as big league as possible. Absolutely and to an extent it works. I wouldn’t be shocked if his wage was just his WWE contract + $5,000 a year or something like that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 3, 2019 13:11:27 GMT -5
They’re clearly playing up the “lucrative” aspects for the press releases to get buzz and to make them seem as big league as possible. Absolutely and to an extent it works. I wouldn’t be shocked if his wage was just his WWE contract + $5,000 a year or something like that. Yea, I highly doubt they are blowing the doors off the train with the contracts with everyone getting more than good money
In fact wouldn't be surprised if it is a little less than a WWE deal, which is still good for not having the WWE schedule
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Post by octopus on Apr 3, 2019 13:24:37 GMT -5
Khan increasingly comes off as a money mark (it was really a give away when he apparently said to the Young Bucks "lets change the world"), lets see his management prowess. If its anything like it is at Fulham, this company will be f***ed fairly soon.
Its like he's got a new toy and will be bored of it soon.
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Post by timelimitdraw on Apr 3, 2019 14:07:51 GMT -5
As some of you mentioned, it's probably not nearly as demanding of a schedule as a full-time WWE schedule. "Lucrative" can be proportional to the work being done.
For example, Raven has said that if Paul Heyman had paid him everything he was owed, he would have made more per date for his last ECW run than he made in WCW. It's also why Sting stayed in TNA for so long: limited dates for around $500,000 a year was hard to pass up.
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Post by Deputy Muscle on Apr 4, 2019 15:52:26 GMT -5
Whether you love him or hate him, Jim Ross is a respected and admired name who knows the ins and out's and can help guide a set of unexperienced guys through some of the troubles they will no doubt encounter. There's a reason why the WWE had him in senior positions for many years, and kept having him back. They don't do that for just anybody. A good legit name for AEW to get. As Cody said "because it's Jim f****** Ross" If he is genuinely invested in AEW then the upside is too big to pass up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 16:19:01 GMT -5
My problem with Ross is that he's tied to that old-school and toxic kind of 'rasslin that I've grown to despise over the years.
Long as he doesn't have any real authority or power, I guess he's fine in an advisory role.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 4, 2019 16:25:51 GMT -5
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear dozens of time a night from the commentary team which of the wrestlers played college football.
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Post by THE FVNKER on Apr 4, 2019 17:24:07 GMT -5
Oh boy, I can't wait to hear dozens of time a night from the commentary team which of the wrestlers played college football. Yeah, God forbid a wrestling announcer in 2019 highlights wrestlers who are former legitimate athletes. I'd say Ross is a pretty good get for AEW. Recognizable voice, good mind for the product. As the guy above me said, WWE had him in spots just under Vince, or maybe just a little bit away from him for years. Gotta be a reason.
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