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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 18:17:13 GMT -5
I'll wait and see how JR does before I judge too harshly. He was definitely off on NJPW shows but we haven't seen what he can do for an American company that doesn't produce him to death. He's an all-time great so I can give him a chance to get his groove back.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Apr 4, 2019 18:43:35 GMT -5
AEW all in on that circa 2009 WWE reunion Chris Masters: WHAT ABOUT ME CODY? Cody: Sorry, Chris, we only want the sombrero
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 4, 2019 18:54:32 GMT -5
Chris Masters: WHAT ABOUT ME CODY? Cody: Sorry, Chris, we only want the sombrero Chris: It's a package deal that's a piece of me
Cody: HA! I get it
Chris: No I wasn't making a joke i'm serious
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 22:04:27 GMT -5
See, I get what people are saying about hiring JR because he's JR, but he's also a shadow of his former self.
You could extend the logic and say they should make Flair world champion or Demolition tag champs. Just because he could do it in front of ther camera once doesn't mean he still can or should.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2019 22:20:02 GMT -5
they should've kept the do it yourself ethic instead of going the Turner route
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 5, 2019 0:28:48 GMT -5
All respect to JR he is absolutely an all time great and one of the best commentators in wrestling history.
But.. it's 2019.... JR's been pretty bad at commentary for a while and honestly comes off pretty damned bitter a lot of the times.
Advisory role could be a good move for him... but JR is at least 2 decades passed his peak as a commentator.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Apr 5, 2019 0:57:48 GMT -5
I really hope no AEW wrestlers have belly button rings
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 5, 2019 1:00:38 GMT -5
I wonder if Marty Shurll is going to AEW when his ROH deal expires.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 5, 2019 1:15:41 GMT -5
I wonder if Marty Shurll is going to AEW when his ROH deal expires. Seems like one of those foregone conclusions
However, I do think Marty has enough clout to be able to make his bones without BTE but with his friends there it just makes sense to go especially if they are going to put him in a high end position to succeed
Unlike Hangman Page(Not to shit on him because i've become a fan of him over the last year) Marty doesn't really need to hang on the Bucks/Cody coattails to keep himself afloat on the indies, ROH, NJPW etc
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Post by 111111 on Apr 5, 2019 4:54:41 GMT -5
and honestly comes off pretty damned bitter a lot of the times. I was about to defend him by pointing out he's recently lost his wife but then I remembered he's always been a bit of a miserable bastard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2019 6:23:19 GMT -5
I'd be willing to go, "Oh, sure, maybe JR will be more invested in this," if he just sucked in NJPW but he's sucked more often than not since about 2002.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Apr 5, 2019 9:33:19 GMT -5
and honestly comes off pretty damned bitter a lot of the times. I was about to defend him by pointing out he's recently lost his wife but then I remembered he's always been a bit of a miserable bastard. Yeah it's not a new development. If it was I could chalk it up to grief.
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Post by corndog on Apr 5, 2019 10:04:26 GMT -5
If you're wanting to be a 'fresh' new company, why sign a bitter old drunk like JR? Did they not see his performance on the New Japan shows? Count me in as one of those who hopes he stays far away from the commentary table. Also, is Tony Schiavone signed on as a commentator or is he just doing Double or Nothing? I didn't know about Schiavone, but he's been pretty good in MLW and since a good portion of the talent for Double or Nothing worked there, he would know them. Plus Schiavone is a professional that would actually learn the names and backgrounds of wrestlers he doesn't know, unlike Jim Ross. As far as Jim Ross is concerned, I am not a fan of him on commentary. As I said before, he would be useful as a consultant due to his background in WWE having been in a very high backstage position in the company and learning the ropes of the business from Bill Watts.
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Post by mrtuesday on Apr 5, 2019 13:20:35 GMT -5
I respect everything JR's done in the business. And he has a great mind for it.
However, as a commentator, he's a shell of his former self. His work for NJPW speaks for itself. He made no efforts to learn names or even follow storylines. I can't see what he could bring as a commentator to AEW.
But, as a behind-the-scenes guy? Yeah go for it.
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Post by Error on Apr 5, 2019 15:14:59 GMT -5
they should've kept the do it yourself ethic instead of going the Turner route I don't think AEW would exist outside the occasional show like All-In. I cannot imagine them risking their money, name, and tossing aside the contacts offered if Tony Khan hadn't come to them. Hell, I don't think they paid more than the talent, building, and related fees. All the production and things like that came from ROH and they own (or did at one time) the masters to the show. AEW was trying to buy that last I heard. As for Khan and being a money mark it's possible but I hope he's smarter than that. He's been around wrestling for decades, was a big tape trader, and has seen the rise and fall of others, I'd hope he would have more sense than that. I also think the Elite would know when to cut bait so they would completely destroy the brand they've been building. Trying to be optimism I guess.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 5, 2019 15:20:49 GMT -5
they should've kept the do it yourself ethic instead of going the Turner route I don't think AEW would exist outside the occasional show like All-In. I cannot imagine them risking their money, name, and tossing aside the contacts offered if Tony Khan hadn't come to them. Hell, I don't think they paid more than the talent, building, and related fees. All the production and things like that came from ROH and they own (or did at one time) the masters to the show. AEW was trying to buy that last I heard. As for Khan and being a money mark it's possible but I hope he's smarter than that. He's been around wrestling for decades, was a big tape trader, and has seen the rise and fall of others, I'd hope he would have more sense than that. I also think the Elite would know when to cut bait so they would completely destroy the brand they've been building. Trying to be optimism I guess. No way Cody/Bucks turn down that deal when they don't have to come out of pocket
Is it all a little too soon? Maybe but their in the deep end now and have to see their vision until the end.
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