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Post by Feargus McReddit on Apr 7, 2019 5:38:57 GMT -5
But the key problem is that, if he’s so lazy, doesn’t give a f*** and doesn’t care about the business...why not fire him? Heyman doesn’t seem like that competent a guy to actually pay a lawyer (in Kayfabe) and when management seems to get on Brock’s back too...they could just strip him of the belt and get rid? It’s just been a stupidly bizarre thing at this point. In a company where they inexplicably sanctioned an undead zombie mortician/biker for competition for over 25 years you can only ask so many questions. I mean the guy went undefeated at their marquee show for 21 straight fights. Did nobody think this was maybe not a level playing field? The old "defend the belt in 30 days or get stripped" rule has been conveniently dropped. That would help a lot. It grates me when people call Brock lazy or selfish here. He isn't booking his own stuff. The WWE think giving him the belt and having him off TV for multiple weeks on end is a good idea. The blame is solely on them for why the Universal title picture is so bad. Oh no, like, I can understand that but you can at least get away with that in storyline as wanting to be the guy that ends the streak. If you’re calling someone lazy and not caring and a bad champion on TV, then the usual logic would be getting him in a match or stripping him of the title because there’s on TV precedence for it.
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Post by KobashiChop on Apr 7, 2019 5:40:43 GMT -5
In a company where they inexplicably sanctioned an undead zombie mortician/biker for competition for over 25 years you can only ask so many questions. I mean the guy went undefeated at their marquee show for 21 straight fights. Did nobody think this was maybe not a level playing field? The old "defend the belt in 30 days or get stripped" rule has been conveniently dropped. That would help a lot. It grates me when people call Brock lazy or selfish here. He isn't booking his own stuff. The WWE think giving him the belt and having him off TV for multiple weeks on end is a good idea. The blame is solely on them for why the Universal title picture is so bad. Oh no, like, I can understand that but you can at least get away with that in storyline as wanting to be the guy that ends the streak. If you’re calling someone lazy and not caring and a bad champion on TV, then the usual logic would be getting him in a match or stripping him of the title because there’s on TV precedence for it. Agreed. Their use of Brock isn't good at all. But it stems from their desperation to get Roman cheered over him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 5:41:29 GMT -5
Match should be good, but every Brock feud of the last couple years makes me appreciate the Brock/Punk feud more. Punk is furious with Heyman and wants to destroy him for betraying him, Heyman unleashes The Beast. Just a simple wrasslin' story.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 7, 2019 5:52:16 GMT -5
This seems like the remnants of the Brock/Roman meta kayfabe bs. Personally I hate it, but I understand why they do it. The Brock stuff seems to rile up a lot of people who consider themselves “smart marks”, like they don’t know they’re being worked.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 7, 2019 6:00:27 GMT -5
Seth is boring as hell
#teambork checking in
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Post by brown bricks on Apr 7, 2019 9:18:49 GMT -5
Putting the title on a black hole of charisma seems like a good way to kill an industry, but that's just me.
Also, this "I'MA SHOOTIN'!" crap convinces me more and more that they brought Russo back with Prichard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 9:42:34 GMT -5
I’m on Brock’s side here. He knows his value and won’t let Vince take advantage of him. More talent should be like him, not less.
I really didn’t care who won the match before, but Lesnar should win it just for that goober interview by Rollins. Whether it was kayfabed or not, it’s stupid to be insulting a “boss” because everyone else is a worker.
Keep getting that paper, Brock.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Apr 7, 2019 10:03:16 GMT -5
WWE can be so confused with their messaging. They always sell the idea that being a loyal company guy is an admirable trait. But at the same time the characters representing the management on TV are almost always evil and corrupt. Just makes these sort of comments give me a serious case of eye rolling. Plus in reality, it's not Brock's fault he got a cushy contract that lets him stay at home. Would any of these guys seriously turn down something like that? If they're angry about it, shouldn't thye be blaming the same company they talk about loving to work at so much? The angle doesn't work in a kayfabe, or shoot scenario. The comment at the end about "that's not my scene, I'll let Cormier handle it" also bugs me a bit, because the WWE superstars in canon are supposed to be skilled fighters themselves. They don't need to undercut the wrestlers' perceived toughness to emphasize the entertainment factor.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Apr 7, 2019 10:06:19 GMT -5
The industry that Brock killed....pogs.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 7, 2019 10:13:58 GMT -5
This mix of kayfabe/real life is weird as hell, man. I know this is how they sell matches now, but "he doesn't contribute to the locker room" is just... yeesh. It'd be like if Snake Roberts cut a promo on Andre the Giant saying he's in the back playing cribbage while Jake is giving his all to entertain THESE FANS. Stop. Just throw a python on a guy and see if he has a heart attack.
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Post by krozor on Apr 7, 2019 10:20:08 GMT -5
It's especially weird to position Rollins this way when he has the whole "Burn It Down" thing. I would love for a surprisingly thoughtful Brock to respond "Maybe the industry needs to be killed, Seth. Consider that."
Anyway, the outcome of this will be Brock and Bryan as heels trying to start a union and Seth positioned as heroically trying to stop them.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Apr 7, 2019 10:23:33 GMT -5
It's especially weird to position Rollins this way when he has the whole "Burn It Down" thing. I would love for a surprisingly thoughtful Brock to respond "Maybe the industry needs to be killed, Seth. Consider that." Anyway, the outcome of this will be Brock and Bryan as heels trying to start a union and Seth positioned as heroically trying to stop them. Based on this post, Brock needs to start cutting promos sitting in his favorite easy chair in front of a fireplace, wearing reading glasses and a cardigan and smoking a pipe.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 7, 2019 11:09:19 GMT -5
I remember Hulk Hogan was a brutal self promoter who was in it for rhimself and it killed the industry. Or it was the best thing to ever happen to it Hogan brought guys up and made everyone more money, though. If you were in a program with Hogan, even if you lost every match, you made significant money. Brock doesn't do that. He doesn't move the needle or sell tickets, so he's only making money for himself.
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Post by krozor on Apr 7, 2019 11:25:03 GMT -5
It's especially weird to position Rollins this way when he has the whole "Burn It Down" thing. I would love for a surprisingly thoughtful Brock to respond "Maybe the industry needs to be killed, Seth. Consider that." Anyway, the outcome of this will be Brock and Bryan as heels trying to start a union and Seth positioned as heroically trying to stop them. Based on this post, Brock needs to start cutting promos sitting in his favorite easy chair in front of a fireplace, wearing reading glasses and a cardigan and smoking a pipe. "You're so close to the answer, Seth. Maybe it's been in front of you the whole time."
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 7, 2019 12:16:21 GMT -5
Brock doesn't believe in all the markish "dis bizniss' shit, and rightly so. Show up, do the minimum required, get a cheque.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2019 12:24:03 GMT -5
Eh, don’t blame the guy that cashes the checks, blame the guy that writes them.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 7, 2019 12:27:43 GMT -5
Brock doesn't believe in all the markish "dis bizniss' shit, and rightly so. Show up, do the minimum required, get a cheque. Yeah, having respect for your industry is one thing, but when you let that respect blind you it becomes a bad thing. You should never feel you’re lucky to have a job, you should feel your employer is lucky to have your skills working for them. And that goes for any industry, if you’re just happy to have a job you will leave yourself open to abuse
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Post by Perd on Apr 7, 2019 12:41:22 GMT -5
I can’t be mad at Brock. He’s living 14 year old me’s dream. Getting paid to do as little as possible and having sex with Sable. I’m forever a hopeless romantic.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 7, 2019 12:52:19 GMT -5
I can’t be mad at Brock. He’s living 14 year old me’s dream. Getting paid to do as little as possible and having sex with Sable. I’m forever a hopeless romantic. I figure he takes the same approach to having sex with Sable too. Show up, bang, then do nothing for three months.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Apr 7, 2019 14:07:30 GMT -5
The only people Seth should really be blaming are Vince and the WWE office. They're the ones that put this together and made it happen. You’re right they’re the ones who are ok with a part time champion who teases ufc fights despite the fact that he will never pass a random drug test in his life.
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