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Post by TheDieselTrain on Apr 8, 2019 15:06:48 GMT -5
So....I’ve seen twice today people posting that Kofi was the 1st black grand slam champ and I’m like Booker T hello!!!!!!!!! and they’re trying to say he doesn’t count because it was the WHC.. I kinda shut him down by saying in that case we need to take away some of the reigns for HHH/Cena/Orton sine some were the WHC so yay or nay because I count it.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 8, 2019 15:08:52 GMT -5
Well, the new Grand Slam is WWE/Universal, IC & US, Tag.
The WWE Championship absorbed the WHC.
So, I dunno... I guess?
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Post by MrElijah on Apr 8, 2019 15:09:14 GMT -5
Yes. In fact he's the olny WWF/E AND WCW Grand Slam Champion.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Apr 8, 2019 15:10:08 GMT -5
Absolutely. Give credit where credit is due.
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Post by Cieto on Apr 8, 2019 15:13:31 GMT -5
I would also count it, just for the simple fact the WHC was an active title in the company. Booker gets my vote.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 8, 2019 15:14:51 GMT -5
I don't see why the WHC shouldn't count.
Even if WWE wants to act like "Oh, The Big Gold Belt? Never happened."
They were sure all about promoting it as the most important belt in the company whenever it was around HHH's waist.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 8, 2019 15:15:55 GMT -5
100% he is. WHC was a top belt.
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Apr 8, 2019 15:18:02 GMT -5
I don't see why the WHC shouldn't count. Even if WWE wants to act like "Oh, The Big Gold Belt? Never happened." They were sure all about promoting it as the most important belt in the company whenever it was around HHH's waist. Hell they were saying Lashley was a former world champion (ECW) and WM main eventer during his mini feud with Roman last year
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Post by 67 more on Apr 8, 2019 15:58:33 GMT -5
Old classification, yes, he held the WHC, IC, Tag and Hardcore to qualify.
New classification, no, as the WHC isn't included. You have to hold the WWE or Universal titles. Also, Booker held the World Tag titles, whereas under the new classification you need to have held the Raw Tag titles (which started as the 2002 WWE Tag titles) or the Smackdown Tag titles.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 15:59:34 GMT -5
I'd say he counts because they tend to fold the World and WWE lineages. They say that Dolph's a former WWE Champion all the time.
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Post by Doctor No on Apr 8, 2019 16:23:22 GMT -5
Michael Cole clearly stated that it was Apollo Crews
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Post by Instant Classic on Apr 8, 2019 16:38:26 GMT -5
So if you win the US title, Tag titles, and world title but not IC are you still a triple crown?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 8, 2019 16:42:24 GMT -5
Honestly, what bothers me more, is that because of his old catchphrase, they still call Book the "Five Time, Five Time" champ when it's 6 now.
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Post by Steveweiser on Apr 8, 2019 16:43:20 GMT -5
To clarify, under the old format (WWF/WWE or World Heavyweight, WWF/World Tag Team or WWE/RAW Tag Team, IC and European or Hardcore), he is a Grand Slam winner (WWF Tag Team, Hardcore, IC, WHC), but he does not qualify for the modern format, as he did not win either the WWE or Universal Titles, or win either of the current versions of tag team titles - he did win the US Title which didn't count under the old format.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 8, 2019 16:46:40 GMT -5
To clarify, under the old format (WWF/WWE or World Heavyweight, WWF/World Tag Team or WWE/RAW Tag Team, IC and European or Hardcore), he is a Grand Slam winner (WWF Tag Team, Hardcore, IC, WHC), but he does not qualify for the modern format, as he did not win either the WWE or Universal Titles, or win either of the current versions of tag team titles - he did win the US Title which didn't count under the old format. It's just kind of insane that under the constantly-shifting qualifications (because WWE is so wishy-washy about their belts and title histories), a guy as decorated as Booker is will never quite get his due or be presented as just how big a name in the business (for someone who was never a crossover media star) he is.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 8, 2019 19:28:10 GMT -5
Booker T is absolutely a grand slam champion. For all intents and purposes the modern WWE Championship has the combined lineages of the WWE Championship (which itself has the shared lineages of the original WWF World Championship and the WCW World Championship) as well as the World Heavyweight Championship. Booker's WHC reign should be grandfathered in as a legacy reign of the modern WWE Championship.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Apr 8, 2019 19:38:38 GMT -5
So....I’ve seen twice today people posting that Kofi was the 1st black grand slam champ and I’m like Booker T hello!!!!!!!!! and they’re trying to say he doesn’t count because it was the WHC.. I kinda shut him down by saying in that case we need to take away some of the reigns for HHH/Cena/Orton sine some were the WHC so yay or nay because I count it. I hope when they said Booker wasn't one you said "Tell me you didn't say that!"
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Post by Chilly McFreeze on Apr 8, 2019 19:50:12 GMT -5
Booker never won the French Open. Couldn't land the spinaroonie on the clay.
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Post by SparkyPlugg on Apr 8, 2019 20:23:28 GMT -5
It annoys me that Bret isn’t counted in the modern grand slam. He’s held all the titles including the WWE version of the U.S. title.
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