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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 9, 2019 11:30:43 GMT -5
There's 100% a portion of the audience that this criticism applies to. No it's not every online fan, but we know the sort. Sami in this role is just painting with a broad brush to apply it to everyone, which is fine seeing as it's a heel thing. But let's not pretend we don't know exactly the kind of online posters he's talking about. Every one of us is guilty to some extent, albeit some far more than others. True, but I dont think this applies to the whole public or crowd as some tried to imply with the main event. That is one step away for blaming fans of disliking something you did I agree with you entirely. I already see fans, not pointing fingers, trying to use this to push their own agendas of fan-hating.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 9, 2019 11:42:44 GMT -5
There's 100% a portion of the audience that this criticism applies to. No it's not every online fan, but we know the sort. Sami in this role is just painting with a broad brush to apply it to everyone, which is fine seeing as it's a heel thing. But let's not pretend we don't know exactly the kind of online posters he's talking about. Every one of us is guilty to some extent, albeit some far more than others. Exactly what I came to say. Not everyone is like that, but we’ve all seen the exact sort of toxic fandom that Sami is talking about, it pokes its head in these parts from time to time. And with him being a heel, of course he should be painting all fans with that brush. It’s a heel thing to do. I thought the promo was great
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2019 11:47:44 GMT -5
Nope, he was completely wrong, and it's yet another example of WWE petulance towards fans.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 9, 2019 11:56:51 GMT -5
There's 100% a portion of the audience that this criticism applies to. No it's not every online fan, but we know the sort. Sami in this role is just painting with a broad brush to apply it to everyone, which is fine seeing as it's a heel thing. But let's not pretend we don't know exactly the kind of online posters he's talking about. Every one of us is guilty to some extent, albeit some far more than others. Exactly what I came to say. Not everyone is like that, but we’ve all seen the exact sort of toxic fandom that Sami is talking about, it pokes its head in these parts from time to time. And with him being a heel, of course he should be painting all fans with that brush. It’s a heel thing to do. I thought the promo was great Heel Sami is missing something for me to conpletely click as a great heel. Maybe he just needs a good feud
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Apr 9, 2019 11:58:06 GMT -5
Exactly what I came to say. Not everyone is like that, but we’ve all seen the exact sort of toxic fandom that Sami is talking about, it pokes its head in these parts from time to time. And with him being a heel, of course he should be painting all fans with that brush. It’s a heel thing to do. I thought the promo was great Heel Sami is missing something for me to conpletely click as a great heel. Maybe he just needs a good feud He’s definitely lacking that defining feud as a heel. His entire heel run he’s been a lackey or a joke.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 12:33:42 GMT -5
There's 100% a portion of the audience that this criticism applies to. No it's not every online fan, but we know the sort. Sami in this role is just painting with a broad brush to apply it to everyone, which is fine seeing as it's a heel thing. But let's not pretend we don't know exactly the kind of online posters he's talking about. Every one of us is guilty to some extent, albeit some far more than others. Exactly this
There is a portion he is talking about but he's spreading it across wide because that is the heel thing to do. It's one of those the heel is right but he is being a dickhead about it
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 9, 2019 12:50:54 GMT -5
God I really hope we get a Bryan/Zayn/Rowan stable. Call it Los Intelectuales.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 9, 2019 12:53:01 GMT -5
I love this Sami/Bryan stable idea. Sami needs a hook and Bryan needs another mook. Natural fit.
Who moves to which show though? Bryan could breathe hella life to RAW.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 12:57:49 GMT -5
I love this Sami/Bryan stable idea. Sami needs a hook and Bryan needs another mook. Natural fit. Who moves to which show though? Bryan could breathe hella life to RAW. Raw for the more promo aspects of it and they badly need new tag teams which Rowan/Sami could help fill the bill
Tho I think they move Sami to SD. Most importantly you don't really have anyone star power wise to put in DB spot unless you move Roman or Braun to SD
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 13:05:44 GMT -5
He was wrong as soon as he said "it's not the Mcmahons".
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 9, 2019 13:19:44 GMT -5
I love this Sami/Bryan stable idea. Sami needs a hook and Bryan needs another mook. Natural fit. Who moves to which show though? Bryan could breathe hella life to RAW. Raw for the more promo aspects of it and they badly need new tag teams which Rowan/Sami could help fill the bill Tho I think they move Sami to SD. Most importantly you don't really have anyone star power wise to put in DB spot unless you move Roman or Braun to SD
Braun I don't see doing much better there than on RAW, no spot for him as a face. As a heel I dunno if he'd mesh well against New Day, especially since I wanna see E and Woods level up. Braun would stunt their growth to give Kofi a monster, I don't see that helping anyone right now. I'm all for Roman on SD though.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 13:28:20 GMT -5
Raw for the more promo aspects of it and they badly need new tag teams which Rowan/Sami could help fill the bill Tho I think they move Sami to SD. Most importantly you don't really have anyone star power wise to put in DB spot unless you move Roman or Braun to SD
Braun I don't see doing much better there than on RAW, no spot for him as a face. As a heel I dunno if he'd mesh well against New Day, especially since I wanna see E and Woods level up. Braun would stunt their growth to give Kofi a monster, I don't see that helping anyone right now. I'm all for Roman on SD though. It would depend how they do the Kofi/Braun match up whether Braun goes in as the face or heel. If as a face, you need to get him some momentum by just beating guys and Kofi would put him over big by beating him but that's thinking around Summerslam more so than anything
Roman fits on SD tho. He needs a new change with Seth as Universal champ and Dean gone. Roman with the more carefree attitude just fits on SD if they want to move DB to Raw
I don't really forsee a big switch up this year in terms of names. Raw needs a top heel so either DB or Randy makes the jump unless you send AJ over there but I think they want to keep him there until he retires
I do think you could do a 2 for 1 tho. Move someone like DB but add in Black and Ricochet for the mens side while Becky I think remains on Raw whenever she drops the SD title and can add Kairi to replace her
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Post by fw91 on Apr 9, 2019 15:58:27 GMT -5
Man love how excited we are getting at this. That means Sami did his job to perfection. Getting worked into a shoot brothers
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Post by fw91 on Apr 9, 2019 15:59:47 GMT -5
I love this Sami/Bryan stable idea. Sami needs a hook and Bryan needs another mook. Natural fit. Who moves to which show though? Bryan could breathe hella life to RAW. With FOX debut coming sooner than we think for SDL, how about a Bryan for Roman swap?
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Apr 9, 2019 16:03:54 GMT -5
I love this Sami/Bryan stable idea. Sami needs a hook and Bryan needs another mook. Natural fit. Who moves to which show though? Bryan could breathe hella life to RAW. With FOX debut coming sooner than we think for SDL, how about a Bryan for Roman swap? I was originally wanting AJ for Roman but with AJ injured now, yeah this is the way to go. It puts both Roman and Bryan huge too because both shows can play it off as stealing an Ace card from the other.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 9, 2019 16:10:32 GMT -5
Braun I don't see doing much better there than on RAW, no spot for him as a face. As a heel I dunno if he'd mesh well against New Day, especially since I wanna see E and Woods level up. Braun would stunt their growth to give Kofi a monster, I don't see that helping anyone right now. I'm all for Roman on SD though. It would depend how they do the Kofi/Braun match up whether Braun goes in as the face or heel. If as a face, you need to get him some momentum by just beating guys and Kofi would put him over big by beating him but that's thinking around Summerslam more so than anything Roman fits on SD tho. He needs a new change with Seth as Universal champ and Dean gone. Roman with the more carefree attitude just fits on SD if they want to move DB to Raw I don't really forsee a big switch up this year in terms of names. Raw needs a top heel so either DB or Randy makes the jump unless you send AJ over there but I think they want to keep him there until he retires I do think you could do a 2 for 1 tho. Move someone like DB but add in Black and Ricochet for the mens side while Becky I think remains on Raw whenever she drops the SD title and can add Kairi to replace her
Roman to SD gets him with the Usos, and that should allow him to show a damn sight more swag.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 16:17:35 GMT -5
It would depend how they do the Kofi/Braun match up whether Braun goes in as the face or heel. If as a face, you need to get him some momentum by just beating guys and Kofi would put him over big by beating him but that's thinking around Summerslam more so than anything Roman fits on SD tho. He needs a new change with Seth as Universal champ and Dean gone. Roman with the more carefree attitude just fits on SD if they want to move DB to Raw I don't really forsee a big switch up this year in terms of names. Raw needs a top heel so either DB or Randy makes the jump unless you send AJ over there but I think they want to keep him there until he retires I do think you could do a 2 for 1 tho. Move someone like DB but add in Black and Ricochet for the mens side while Becky I think remains on Raw whenever she drops the SD title and can add Kairi to replace her
Roman to SD gets him with the Usos, and that should allow him to show a damn sight more swag. That would be dope to
As I said before, after a while Roman will need a character and feeding off the good vibes won't last forever. Roman/Usos and Naomi by extension if she is still on SD can create a family clique that can be really damn good
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 16:22:26 GMT -5
No. He was definitely wrong getting that haircut.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 16:24:08 GMT -5
No. He was definitely wrong getting that haircut. Yea, Sami hairline is going the way of Viktor and Aiden English
That buzzcut is not a good idea
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Post by Shark on Apr 9, 2019 16:39:43 GMT -5
Nope, he was completely wrong, and it's yet another example of WWE petulance towards fans. Fans last night came armed with beach balls clearly waiting for a moment when they could turn on the show to start batting them around. Earlier in the show 4 guys were busting their asses and the crowd was doing the wave. Is it all fans? Of course not, but Sami is certainly right about a fair portion of them. I also firmly believe Sami believed quite a lot of what he was saying.
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