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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2019 12:42:33 GMT -5
They should have just hired Tony Schiavone when WCW folded. Cole has always been terrible,
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 13:01:14 GMT -5
Get Vince out his ear and Cole can be good. When he's relaxed and laid back and not just doing buzzwords he would be funny
However, he is starting to feel a little dated. Phillips will eventually take his place on Raw and as expected since their NXT days him and Corey will be the faces of the announce team for the next 10 years
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 13:03:44 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Michael Cole. The problem is WWE, not Michael Cole. They should have just hired Tony Schiavone when WCW folded. Cole has always been terrible, Schiavone was as mocked and despised in his day as Cole is now.
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Post by Andy Martin on Apr 9, 2019 13:04:06 GMT -5
... I kinda like Michael Cole. I do too. I think Phillips is a better play by play guy than him, but he’s never bothered me.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2019 13:07:55 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Michael Cole. The problem is WWE, not Michael Cole. They should have just hired Tony Schiavone when WCW folded. Cole has always been terrible, Schiavone was as mocked and despised in his day as Cole is now. I doubt it. Schiavone has always been a better announcer, and the sheer length of Cole's time as lead announcer makes him even worse.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 9, 2019 13:09:59 GMT -5
I always found his call as Roman walked to the ring to announce his leaving for cancer treatments kind of cringy. He still screamed all his catchphrases. Surely someone said “Michael, this is serious. Just say Roman is coming to address the WWE Universe”.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 13:11:05 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Michael Cole. The problem is WWE, not Michael Cole. Schiavone was as mocked and despised in his day as Cole is now. I doubt it. Schiavone has always been a better announcer, and the shher length of. ole's time as lead announcer makes him worse. I agree that Schiavone is better, but in his day it was as fashionable to shit on him as it is to shit on Cole now. Schiavone was a running joke during the MNW.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 13:15:51 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with Michael Cole. The problem is WWE, not Michael Cole. They should have just hired Tony Schiavone when WCW folded. Cole has always been terrible, Schiavone was as mocked and despised in his day as Cole is now. Nah. It’s Cole. He has to take responsibility for his delivery and lack of energy/emotion.
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Post by realist on Apr 9, 2019 13:16:06 GMT -5
I doubt it. Schiavone has always been a better announcer, and the shher length of. ole's time as lead announcer makes him worse. I agree that Schiavone is better, but in his day it was as fashionable to shit on him as it is to shit on Cole now. Schiavone was a running joke during the MNW. To be fair, he was the greatest running joke in the history of our sport.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2019 13:16:50 GMT -5
I doubt it. Schiavone has always been a better announcer, and the shher length of. ole's time as lead announcer makes him worse. I agree that Schiavone is better, but in his day it was as fashionable to shit on him as it is to shit on Cole now. Schiavone was a running joke during the MNW. Schiavone was mostly mocked for his comment about Foley and his "greatest night in professional wrestling" hyperbole. Criticism of Cole isn't a fashion. It's been ongoing for yesrs and rightly so.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Apr 9, 2019 13:18:46 GMT -5
It's BOSS TIME!
No, Michael, no!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 13:24:27 GMT -5
I agree that Schiavone is better, but in his day it was as fashionable to shit on him as it is to shit on Cole now. Schiavone was a running joke during the MNW. Schiavone was mostly mocked for his comment about Foley and his "greatest night in professional wrestling" hyperbole. Criticism of Cole isn't a fashion. It's been ongoing for yesrs and rightly so. Schiavone was mocked for lines fed to him to by Bischoff and for sucking through most of the MNW. That's not just my opinion. He has admitted himself that he was phoning it in and had no enthusiasm for the product. I prefer Schiavone to Cole, but Cole's issue is that he's being forced to sell the product in a certain way. He's far better on the UK and Mae Young tournaments when allowed to be himself and his natural enthusiasm for wrestling is allowed to show through.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 13:27:28 GMT -5
He ruins the product for me. Yeah it’s not exactly brilliant but his monotone voice and robotic unenthusiastic voice doesn’t help any of the matches. He just doesn’t have that “big fight feel” voice that Mauro, Jim Ross, Joey Styles or even Matt Striker have. Mauro in particular could make even the worst match on paper sound like the best thing ever. Listen to him on the Takeovers and tell me he doesn’t contribute massively to the energy and spectacle of the match you’re watching. Cole not only doesn’t contribute... he makes the match WORSE. He reacted to STING debuting in the WWE like he found a dollar in his jeans..
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 9, 2019 13:37:02 GMT -5
Schiavone was mostly mocked for his comment about Foley and his "greatest night in professional wrestling" hyperbole. Criticism of Cole isn't a fashion. It's been ongoing for yesrs and rightly so. Schiavone was mocked for lines fed to him to by Bischoff and for sucking through most of the MNW. That's not just my opinion. He has admitted himself that he was phoning it in and had no enthusiasm for the product. I prefer Schiavone to Cole, but Cole's issue is that he's being forced to sell the product in a certain way. He's far better on the UK and Mae Young tournaments when allowed to be himself and his natural enthusiasm for wrestling is allowed to show through. Schiavone can phone it in and still sound better than Cole, because he has a sports announcer voice and it suits wrestling better than Cole who sounds like a wrestling video game announcer randomly spewing lines whether they apply or not.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 9, 2019 13:39:59 GMT -5
Cole is wack, but in no world is he worse than Mark Madden. That dude was impressively bad. Rob Bartlett, too, would be another of the all-time worst mainstream commentators.
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Post by darbus alan on Apr 9, 2019 13:50:50 GMT -5
In terms of PBP, he's not terrible, but not really that great either. Though a lot of it is also not being allowed to be great thanks to basically being made to be WWE's Top Shill versus a true commentator. And he has had his true moments of greatness, like commentating the entire show on his own after Jerry Lawler's heart attack and carrying himself well in spite of all the turmoil and emotional uncertainty going on both backstage and in his heart worrying about his friend's life. During that moment, I really felt like he connected with the audience at home in a way that few commentators ever have, from the shock of the heart attack on live television to the fear his friend might be dying to the wave of relief when we all found out he was going to be okay. I also loved him on Mystery NXT Theater 3000, especially when CM Punk would fill in. They bounced off each other really well.
Though with overall commentary, there's been a lot worse, though. JBL, Mike Adamle, Mark Madden, Mauro Ranallo on Smackdown, etc.
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