adamclark52
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Post by adamclark52 on Apr 9, 2019 10:00:47 GMT -5
It’s incredible that’s he’s been around for over twenty years and has done NOTHING to endure himself to the audience. If he was to leave next week (with the amount of fanfare commentators usually get) I don’t think anyone would even notice.
Truly the worst commentator of all time. Worse than Mark Madden. He was at least only around for a year.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Apr 9, 2019 10:39:48 GMT -5
... I kinda like Michael Cole.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 10:42:11 GMT -5
I'm mostly desensitized to Cole, but 'WrestleMANia' filled me with the kind of venom and vile that Regal talked about.
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Post by realist on Apr 9, 2019 10:53:04 GMT -5
Michael Cole gets a lot of undeserved crap. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he replaced Jim Ross, who is largely regarded as the top play-by-play guy in the history of the business. And I would be inclined to agree with that. However, people need to realize that Michael Cole's job is not that of a play-by-play announcer. As the WWE has changed, so has Cole's role. He is more of a circus ring master. He has to tell the narrative that WWE wants him to, while occasionally commenting on what is going on in the ring, while plugging WWE merchandise, social media handles, a crap ton of other things, and all while Vince McMahon screams in his ear. I think, all things considered, Michael Cole does a great job. I don't think that people hate Michael Cole as much as they hate the fact that the role of the commentator has changed. Imagine if Jim Ross, in his prime when Mick Foley was thrown off the cell, had to say, "Oh my God!! As God as my witness, he is broken in half. Please use the hashtags "HIAC," "brutal,"and "Mankind/Taker" to get us trending on Twitter. if this isn't the number one trend on all of social media, I swear I don't know what is!!" It wouldn't be nearly as good or iconic. However, those are the parameters that Michael Cole has to work within. It is a miracle that he is as good as he is with that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 10:54:22 GMT -5
Cole is wack, but in no world is he worse than Mark Madden. That dude was impressively bad.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 9, 2019 11:01:27 GMT -5
If he was Beast in the East Michael Cole full time, we'd be having a much different discussion.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 9, 2019 11:03:35 GMT -5
“Hey guys, wasn’t that cool?”
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Apr 9, 2019 11:06:22 GMT -5
He just doesn't fit the product anymore. There's a new era upon us, and he's a relic of the past. Time to shift him backstage.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Apr 9, 2019 11:12:44 GMT -5
It's all well and good how he handles the plugs and the yelling from Vince and the buzzwords etc but he's incapable of conveying sincerity or genuine excitement so he's just not good at actually enhancing the show via his commentary and actively makes it worse.
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Post by Aceorton on Apr 9, 2019 11:13:43 GMT -5
The BIG DAWG!
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 9, 2019 11:20:10 GMT -5
He’s just so god damn phony and full of buzzwords. Everything becomes just so lame talks about it. I don’t believe he’s emotionally invested in anything he’s seeing. I also just plane don’t like his voice
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 11:20:45 GMT -5
Definitely should have been moved to some sort of backstage role by now. He’s the Baron Corbin of commentators.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Apr 9, 2019 11:22:32 GMT -5
get vince out of his ear, lose the hashtag/twitter trending/forced meme "vintage/oh my/etc" stuff and let him actually be more of himself. we'd see a massive change in him on screen.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Apr 9, 2019 11:23:18 GMT -5
If he was Beast in the East Michael Cole full time, we'd be having a much different discussion. Unscripted, unfettered Michael Cole is way better than "Vince-is-constantly-screaming-in-my-ear" Cole. He was good during the UK Tournament, too.
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Post by Rican on Apr 9, 2019 11:28:43 GMT -5
He can be good to great in the right circumstances, but I agree that his time has passed. I remember reading years ago that he wanted to shift to a more backstage focus and apparently Triple H is very high on him and he'll be an integral part of that administration. But in a company that's so image obsessed Cole still being there is weird. Every other announcer and interviewer is a young, attractive fit 20 or 30 something and then you've got this dorky looking middle aged dude spouting buzzwords all the time. It's weird as hell.
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Post by Bo Rida on Apr 9, 2019 11:59:55 GMT -5
Don't like him but have accepted him over time. He's had a few good calls but it's telling the one that comes to mind is from 98. Respect him for the way he handled Kings heart attack.
There's been worse than him, he's way better than Riley for instance. Apart from heel Cole, that was some of the worst shit ever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:26:36 GMT -5
He ruins the product for me.
Yeah it’s not exactly brilliant but his monotone voice and robotic unenthusiastic voice doesn’t help any of the matches.
He just doesn’t have that “big fight feel” voice that Mauro, Jim Ross, Joey Styles or even Matt Striker have.
Mauro in particular could make even the worst match on paper sound like the best thing ever. Listen to him on the Takeovers and tell me he doesn’t contribute massively to the energy and spectacle of the match you’re watching.
Cole not only doesn’t contribute... he makes the match WORSE.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:31:36 GMT -5
Don't like him but have accepted him over time. He's had a few good calls but it's telling the one that comes to mind is from 98. Respect him for the way he handled Kings heart attack. There's been worse than him, he's way better than Riley for instance. Apart from heel Cole, that was some of the worst shit ever. Commentators I enjoyed more than Cole... JR Vince King Gorilla Heenan Schiavone Tenay Don West Striker Graves Ventura Joey Styles JBL Lord Alfred Hayes Heyman Mcguinness Tazz Booker T Savage Josh Mathews The list goes on.
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Post by thetower52 on Apr 9, 2019 12:33:52 GMT -5
Don't like him but have accepted him over time. He's had a few good calls but it's telling the one that comes to mind is from 98. Respect him for the way he handled Kings heart attack. There's been worse than him, he's way better than Riley for instance. Apart from heel Cole, that was some of the worst shit ever. Commentators I enjoyed more than Cole... JR Vince King Gorilla Heenan Schiavone Tenay Don West Striker Graves Ventura Joey Styles JBL Lord Alfred Hayes Heyman Mcguinness Tazz Booker T Savage Josh Mathews The list goes on. Poor saxton and Todd Gresham
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2019 12:40:37 GMT -5
I preferred him in his earlier years. Hell, even his years with Tazz on Heat and Smackdown were good. When they swapped him and JR, though.....I've not liked him since...
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