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Post by SirLucas on Apr 14, 2019 12:45:20 GMT -5
Forget about the botched ending, as the pacing of the match just felt lukewarm and the crowd was as lively as Orton/Triple H at WM 25. What should have been this historical monumental moment in WWE and WM history just fell flat. But what do you feel was the bigger of the two issues going into this match?
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Post by mcstoklasa on Apr 14, 2019 12:47:13 GMT -5
The show is too long. Going on last on a seven hour show ain't a good thing.
Brock was a genius for going first.
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Post by SirLucas on Apr 14, 2019 12:49:01 GMT -5
Brock was smart enough in not wanting to deal with NY/NJ traffic.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 12:50:19 GMT -5
Charlotte was the best one in the triple threat. They weren't kidding by having her in it, she was what held it together.
At the end of the day the fact the match came on that late takes away from everything else. There's just no excuse for that. That's obviously the biggest issue.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Apr 14, 2019 12:52:30 GMT -5
The match being on after 7 hours of wrestling (including pre-show) didn't help matters. The Triple Threat stipulation got reinvigorated with the wild brawl segment on go-home Raw.
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Post by SirLucas on Apr 14, 2019 12:52:34 GMT -5
The show is too long. Going on last on a seven hour show ain't a good thing. Brock was a genius for going first. I was there live and when the bell rang to start the match and I looked at my clock to see it was past midnight, all I could think was "ahh shit, after this is over, I am still going to spend an hour or two getting out of this stadium and back to the hotel."
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Post by theironyuppie on Apr 14, 2019 13:27:07 GMT -5
The match being on after 7 hours of wrestling (including pre-show) didn't help matters. The Triple Threat stipulation got reinvigorated with the wild brawl segment on go-home Raw. I suspect they were trying to follow that feel with so much of the match being all three rather than the usual ‘one rolls out while the other two fight’ formula. Ronda breaking her hand mid-match couldn’t have helped either. That said, it’s still a good match that improves on rewatch, even if the botched pin ending is a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 13:28:24 GMT -5
I think it's mostly just how damn late it was.
That said the match really wasn't great beyond that. Not bad by any stretch of the imagination, I did rather enjoy the way they were just beating the hell out of each other, but there was a lot of sloppiness going on and it didn't really have any real logical flow to it.
Also someone needs to tell Becky to never go to the top rope again. Woman drops like a rock.
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Post by Hit Girl on Apr 14, 2019 13:46:19 GMT -5
The time.
Too late. Fans exhausted.
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Post by KobashiChop on Apr 14, 2019 14:02:49 GMT -5
It was at the end of a 5 hour show that ran long.
There was no need for the show to be that long.
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Post by SirLucas on Apr 14, 2019 14:27:29 GMT -5
This issue will persist as long as WWE is content on squeezing every main roster superstar on the show.
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Post by chronocross on Apr 14, 2019 14:55:37 GMT -5
I didn't care about it being a triple threat, the fact that it went on around midnight eastern time, was a bigger problem. I probably would've left long before that if I had attended.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 15:56:07 GMT -5
I did the math and I think one really telling thing is that across 7.5 hours - that's 450 minutes - there was a combined 190 minutes of wrestling.
Not that you can do nothing but a sprint to the finish, you need breaks in there, but that's 260 minutes of content that could easily have been trimmed down, not even getting into the idea of some of the matches themselves being shorter.
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Post by thecrusherwi on Apr 14, 2019 16:00:58 GMT -5
Yeah it’s the length. I’m hard pressed to think of a match in wrestling history that would have my full excitement and enthusiasm at the end of a 7.5 hour card. That’s just too much for one sitting.
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Post by Prince Petty on Apr 14, 2019 16:02:06 GMT -5
The show was too long. Simple as that. No matter if it was just Ronda vs Becky, or if Ronda kept her shoulders down for the pin, or anything else. It was at the end of seven hours of wrestling. The fact that the crowd was still there and still reacting at all was testament to how invested they were in the match.
Ideally, it would be at the end of a maximum of five hours, and it would have had five more minutes at the end, to build to a real crescendo before Becky got the pin (also, ideally, she would have a pin finisher)/
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 16:08:59 GMT -5
It being a triple threat was the least of its problems. It could've been Ronda vs. Becky one on one or Stone Cold vs. Hulk Hogan in their primes and it going on at the time it did would've been its biggest problem. The horrible finish (I just watched the match again last night, what a disaster) was its second biggest.
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Post by Dub H on Apr 14, 2019 16:09:29 GMT -5
personally the fact that it was a 3 way.as a whole probably the time slot
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Post by Perd on Apr 14, 2019 16:21:31 GMT -5
It’s definitely an honor to close out the biggest show of the year. And I’m glad the women got to do it. But when a show is that long, that comes at a cost. The crowd can’t help but be somewhat sedated when sitting through a 7+ hour show.p
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2019 16:25:01 GMT -5
The match being on after 7 hours of wrestling (including pre-show) didn't help matters. The Triple Threat stipulation got reinvigorated with the wild brawl segment on go-home Raw. I suspect they were trying to follow that feel with so much of the match being all three rather than the usual ‘one rolls out while the other two fight’ formula. Ronda breaking her hand mid-match couldn’t have helped either. That said, it’s still a good match that improves on rewatch, even if the botched pin ending is a shame. Not a great match by any stretch, but in watching it back last night, I found that it really started picking up in the last ten minutes or so and was starting to get really good before they went to the finish. Goddamn was that finish a mess, though. From the table not breaking on the cool double hip toss spot -> botched pin -> Cole's confused call -> Becky's really short celebration, it was terrible.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Apr 14, 2019 16:38:25 GMT -5
agreed still a terrific match, but following on from so long AND the RAW brawl (the best thing they've done ALL YEAR SO FAR) and kinda having it in the back of my head that becky would win ..... and seeing the thumbnail on youtube didn't help ..... like a birthday balloon i guess for me it was the least of the womens matches
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