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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 22:46:49 GMT -5
Some of these comments in this thread sounds like people don't know how people get abducted in these situations. The predators will roll up to people and say "you call for an Uber/Lyft?" and then that usually starts everything. Most people check everything to see if it checks out but some on the other hand are either intoxicated, tired, too drunk or too casual and go along with the checks and then they say "yeah thanks" and then they get in. From the multiple stories online about predators doing this you can see how they got into these situations. There's numerous reports on how it happens.
At the end of the day though I'm not going to say "nah I'm not believing her" because she knows better than anyone what happened. That's victim blaming and f***ed up especially saying she's doing it for "social media points" wtf.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2019 22:47:06 GMT -5
I mean I can watch via GPS where they are on my phone. See their license plate, model of car, and picture. As well as their service record from other riders.
That's kind of what i was hinting at in my "did she tell cops"? Thing. Airport tends to have bagboys, cameras, busses i.e witnesses. Hop out (she did) go tell security this car that left tried to abduct me. Theyll pour over airport security cameras (which there are maaaaannnny) theyll see the plate. Boom. You stopped a dexter villain! Or it was a misunderstanding, you over reacted and wanted social media points. Ya know, one of those 2 things happened. Agreed Again, not like it’s never happened before but this one seems like a stretch |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on May 18, 2019 22:47:55 GMT -5
It could also have been a pirate taxi.
But those are pretty damned sketchy at times.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2019 22:48:10 GMT -5
Some of these comments in this thread sounds like people don't know how people get abducted in these situations. The predators will roll up to people and say "you call for an Uber?" and then that usually starts everything. Most people check everything to see if it checks out but some on the other hand are either intoxicated, tired, too drunk or too casual and go along with it by saying "yeah thanks" and then they get in. From the multiple stories online about predators doing this you can see how they got into the situation. At the end of the day though I'm not going to say "nah I'm not believing her" because she knows better than anyone what happened. That's victim blaming and f***ed up. It’s victim blaming if there’s an actual victim. Sound like someone asked her if she requested an Uber |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 22:49:25 GMT -5
It’s victim blaming if there’s an actual victim. Sound like someone asked her if she requested an Uber How are you going to claim if she's not a victim? She said someone tried with her and only she knows what happened, you literally don't have any proof other than her word. You do know that sounds f***ed up right? You're saying "nah she's no victim I'm not believing her." |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 22:51:46 GMT -5
It could also have been a pirate taxi. But those are pretty damned sketchy at times. Is there an "attractive lady driver" equivalent of the "Fake Taxi" site? I'd get in that cab all day! Or as long and as frequently as I still could, at 32. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2019 22:53:01 GMT -5
It’s victim blaming if there’s an actual victim. Sound like someone asked her if she requested an Uber How are you going to claim if she's not a victim? She said someone tried with her and only she knows what happened, you literally don't have any proof other than her word. You do know that sounds f***ed up right? You're saying "nah she's no victim I'm not believing her." But nothing happened to her. Someone said he was an Uber. she said she didn’t order an Uber. And no I don’t think somebody was trying to abduct her. Her account is incredibly vague. If anything I’d say your thread title is incredibly misleading. It infers that somebody was actually trying to kidnap her |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 23:02:25 GMT -5
But nothing happened to her. Someone said he was an Uber. she said she didn’t order an Uber. And no I don’t think somebody was trying to abduct her. Her account is incredibly vague. If anything I’d say your thread title is incredibly misleading. It infers that somebody was actually trying to kidnap her So lemme get this straight...she literally says
And you're here saying "nah I don't think they were trying to do that" when you weren't there to see what happened and you're calling her a liar, when we have reports of people doing this to others across the US and when Uber/Lyft have even commented on these situations happening in the past.
You really saying this right now?
Yeah, you're completely f***ed up claiming someone is lying about this. That's straight up the same as saying "nah, I don't think this person was sexually harassed" even though said person says they were. If you wanna be that guy to do that to people then shit go right ahead because that's f***ed up no matter how you cut it.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2019 23:07:08 GMT -5
But nothing happened to her. Someone said he was an Uber. she said she didn’t order an Uber. And no I don’t think somebody was trying to abduct her. Her account is incredibly vague. If anything I’d say your thread title is incredibly misleading. It infers that somebody was actually trying to kidnap her So lemme get this straight...she literally says
And you're here saying "nah I don't think they were trying to do that" when you weren't there to see what happened and you're calling her a liar, when we have reports of people doing this to others across the US and when Uber/Lyft have even commented on these situations happening in the past.
You really saying this right now?
Yeah, you're completely f***ed up claiming someone is lying about this. That's straight up the same as saying "nah, I don't think this person was sexually harassed" even though said person says they were. If you wanna be that guy to do that to people then shit go right ahead because that's f***ed up no matter how you cut it.
No someone who says they were sexually harassed says something horrible happened to them. She says someone said they were her Uber ride and they weren’t which she immediately interpreted as an attempted addiction. If she comes back and says someone physically tried to put her into a car against her will then she’s a victim. Again her account of the situation makes it sound like someone who wasn’t her Uber driver said they were her Uber driver which she interpreted as someone trying to abduct her. You can’t file a police report for it. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 23:20:43 GMT -5
I'd like to know what he said, cause mistaken drivers are more common than would-be abductors.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2019 23:22:52 GMT -5
No someone who says they were sexually harassed says something horrible happened to them. She says someone said they were her Uber ride and they weren’t which she immediately interpreted as an attempted addiction. If she comes back and says someone physically tried to put her into a car against her will then she’s a victim. Again her account of the situation makes it sound like someone who wasn’t her Uber driver said they were her Uber driver which she interpreted as someone trying to abduct her. You can’t file a police report for it. You're calling her a liar plain and simple.
Unless you were there with her and know what happened then you saying that is f***ed up no matter how you cut it. She didn't even break it down, she just said it happened. Like I said, if you wanna be that guy to denounce what others went through even though you weren't there then shit be that guy because it's f***ed up to say "nah they're wrong."
It's 2019. People need to stop doing this shit to others.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 18, 2019 23:34:38 GMT -5
Stop doing what to others?
She wasn’t assaulted, accosted, harmed or threatened... thankfully. She wasn't dragged into a cat, there’s no crime that was committed by anybody, anywhere.
She interpreted somebody saying they were her Uber ride as a kidnapper. It’s far more likely he was mistaking her for his fare. They committed no crime... at all.. no crime... no victim. I’ve had people ask me if I was looking for an Uber before too. Most likely not because they had nefarious intent.
Again, if someone committed a crime I’m willing to believe the accuser. But his is (thankfully) more than likely a car of mistaken identity. Which is a good thing
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Post by Cyno on May 18, 2019 23:59:05 GMT -5
Unless you were there to hear the exchange between her and the driver, you're in no position to say what was really happening. I'll believe her account of what happened.
And going by that "she wasn't physically assaulted so nothing happened" logic, that's like saying a dude trying to get kids into his van with promises of candy hasn't done anything wrong either.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 0:00:05 GMT -5
Stop doing what to others? She wasn’t assaulted, accosted, harmed or threatened... thankfully. She wasn't dragged into a cat, there’s no crime that was committed by anybody, anywhere. She interpreted somebody saying they were her Uber ride as a kidnapper. It’s far more likely he was mistaking her for his fare. They committed no crime... at all.. no crime... no victim. I’ve had people ask me if I was looking for an Uber before too. Most likely not because they had nefarious intent. Again, if someone committed a crime I’m willing to believe the accuser. But his is (thankfully) more than likely a car of mistaken identity. Which is a good thing This is my last post to you about this because this is common sense.
You're literally saying "well my experience with this is this so what you're saying is wrong" when no, you're not her. You're not understanding that others' experiences with something potentially differs from your own. If you said "every time I get this sandwich they never mess it up" and someone says "hey they messed up my sandwich" then who are you to say they didn't experience that? Who are you to wonder if they're telling the truth? If you walk down this street everyday and I walked down it and someone called me a racial slur and I told you then who are you to tell me that I didn't experience that because you didn't? In this case she didn't break down what happened, she didn't explain how she knew, she just said it happened and that's enough for her to make that statement. You on the other hand thought that you knew more about what someone else experienced even though that person is used to doing this with their job description and more than that you assumed that they somehow assumed wrong. You also said earlier in the thread said someone would "almost need to try to get abducted" when even that itself is f***ed up given all the numerous instances and reports we've heard about it.
You can keep talking about "well she wasn't hurt so-", "she's not a victim" and all that crap but the reality of the situation is she felt compelled enough to comment on it on social media rather than letting it slide and she's saying it happened based on something only she herself and the driver experienced. At the end of the day what this boils down is you not taking her word for it when only she and the driver knows what happened.
That's some straight bullshit towards anyone who's ever experienced something in life because when they say something almost happened/happened to them they have someone like yourself saying "well no it didn't" which makes people not want to say anything at all about their experiences in life. There's a reason why people don't speak up about things and this is it.
It's 2019 and that's f***ed up. I''m done talking to you about this.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 0:08:52 GMT -5
Damn.. Toilet Paper Roll isn't calling her a liar--he's saying it's a possiblity that she misinterpreted a mistaken driver. Why is that so unreasonable? It happens a lot. |
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 19, 2019 1:43:25 GMT -5
Yeah, this seems less like these people are master deceivers and more like people aren't using common sense when using these apps. Doesn't matter if it's a moment of personal judgment lapsing or a criminal mastermind, if someone's going around trying to abduct people, that's still bad and f***ed up, and there's still a person attempting to do a crime and harm people. |
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Post by EyeofTyr on May 19, 2019 2:01:47 GMT -5
Yeah, this seems less like these people are master deceivers and more like people aren't using common sense when using these apps. Doesn't matter if it's a moment of personal judgment lapsing or a criminal mastermind, if someone's going around trying to abduct people, that's still bad and f***ed up, and there's still a person attempting to do a crime and harm people. Definitely. But also when an app gives you practically everything under the sun to identify your driver and most of us are taught since a young age not to just hop in a car with a stranger (and to ask things like "Who are you looking for?" instead of "Are you my Uber/Lyft?"), some of it comes down to a lack of common sense too. It's a f***ed up thing the would-be abductor is doing and the potential abductee should be more careful in the future (if they weren't already). We live in a messed up world. There's nothing wrong with being prepared, as much as I'd like to live in an ideal world where no one had to be as prepared as folks should be these days for any manner of nutjob out there that wants to do who knows what. Same reason why I don't fault anyone in this day and age that carries some form of protection on themselves when out, especially if in a new place or one they're unfamiliar with. |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 4:45:53 GMT -5
I’m a guy and I don’t trust some of these taxi drivers. Especially when I’m abroad as there’s a very good chance a tourist would be targeted/used for human trafficking/etc.
I can’t imagine what it would be like being a woman. Let alone a famous one.
People should take all the necessary precautions. You can never be too busy to ensure your safety.
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Post by Steveweiser on May 19, 2019 6:28:15 GMT -5
At least in the UK, Uber lists the name of the driver, their picture, their phone number and the make and registration number of their car, so you know which car you are looking out for.
Anyway, Kayla has further explained her situation:
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on May 19, 2019 6:42:28 GMT -5
At least in the UK, Uber lists the name of the driver, their picture, their phone number and the make and registration number of their car, so you know which car you are looking out for. Anyway, Kayla has further explained her situation: Good to hear, thankfully as assumed by most people here there was no crime committed. The vagueness of her story certainly made it seem like she wasn’t in any great danger or fear and was trying the use it more of a cautionary tale for people to just always be aware. |
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