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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 21, 2020 13:46:25 GMT -5
Sanders is good in name but his production won't match the expectation
Decent number 2 tho and in NO he should put up numbers just because of how they play but I don't see it as some big signing
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 15:43:14 GMT -5
Sanders is good in name but his production won't match the expectation Decent number 2 tho and in NO he should put up numbers just because of how they play but I don't see it as some big signing Maybe not a "big" signing, but a really, really smart one for New Orleans. They've got nothing at WR after Thomas, and Sanders had his best years as the bridesmaid to AB and Demaryius. He should have no issue living up to reasonable expectations, which should be being a dependable second option to relieve some of the burden from Thomas who can produce monster games from time to time. That's who he's always been and I think he'll continue to be. He hasn't had an elite QB for a long time either.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 21, 2020 16:37:11 GMT -5
Nelson Agholor has signed with the Raiders
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2020 18:26:18 GMT -5
Apparently the Colts are cutting CB Pierre Desir. I don't quite get this move. He's a quality player on an affordable contract. I especially don't get him getting cut before Brian Hoyer, whose value to the team cratered after Rivers was signed. The team has no use for him even if they do find a trade partner for Brissett, as either Swag Kelly or a drafted QB would be the presumptive QB2. Maybe Hoyer knows he is about to get cut and stopped answering his phone... In other news, this means that Quincy Wilson probably is no longer trade bait. I can't see them letting him go now despite the fact that he was often a healthy scratch. He played well when he did play but only dressed when he was asked to start. Backup CBs on the Colts have to play special teams and for some mysterious reason he simply did not play special teams...ever. Edit: Some more details here. Apparently the Colts went ahead and paid Desir all of his guaranteed money last year in a single cash payment, meaning that by cutting him today they have $0 in dead money, which would not be the case tomorrow. They are open to bringing him back under a contract that reflects his performance last season (which was a down year), but otherwise they save $7M in cap space. I assumed that there would be significant dead money, making it make less sense. Owing no money is good for once. I'm not too fond of Rivers being the starter (we cut Brian Hoyer today, by the way, meaning our depth chart will most likely be Philip Rivers, Jacoby Brisett, and perhaps Chad Kelly resigned to the Phillip Walker role on the practice squad), but given the terrible division we're in, if we draft defensively, we should easily run away with the AFC South. Likely won't matter in the playoffs since winning the AFC South is akin to being crowned King of Garbage Mountain, but barring anything catastrophic, it's a safe bet to see Indy back on top.
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Post by Sicho100 on Mar 21, 2020 19:26:34 GMT -5
Apparently the Colts are cutting CB Pierre Desir. I don't quite get this move. He's a quality player on an affordable contract. I especially don't get him getting cut before Brian Hoyer, whose value to the team cratered after Rivers was signed. The team has no use for him even if they do find a trade partner for Brissett, as either Swag Kelly or a drafted QB would be the presumptive QB2. Maybe Hoyer knows he is about to get cut and stopped answering his phone... In other news, this means that Quincy Wilson probably is no longer trade bait. I can't see them letting him go now despite the fact that he was often a healthy scratch. He played well when he did play but only dressed when he was asked to start. Backup CBs on the Colts have to play special teams and for some mysterious reason he simply did not play special teams...ever. Edit: Some more details here. Apparently the Colts went ahead and paid Desir all of his guaranteed money last year in a single cash payment, meaning that by cutting him today they have $0 in dead money, which would not be the case tomorrow. They are open to bringing him back under a contract that reflects his performance last season (which was a down year), but otherwise they save $7M in cap space. I assumed that there would be significant dead money, making it make less sense. Owing no money is good for once. I'm not too fond of Rivers being the starter (we cut Brian Hoyer today, by the way, meaning our depth chart will most likely be Philip Rivers, Jacoby Brisett, and perhaps Chad Kelly resigned to the Phillip Walker role on the practice squad), but given the terrible division we're in, if we draft defensively, we should easily run away with the AFC South. Likely won't matter in the playoffs since winning the AFC South is akin to being crowned King of Garbage Mountain, but barring anything catastrophic, it's a safe bet to see Indy back on top. Sure, you think the Colts are favorites for the division now, but just wait until Bill O'Brien trades Deshaun Watson for a backup guard. You won't be feeling so confident having to go up against that juggernaut.
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Post by Dr. T is an alien on Mar 22, 2020 1:13:40 GMT -5
Apparently the Colts are cutting CB Pierre Desir. I don't quite get this move. He's a quality player on an affordable contract. I especially don't get him getting cut before Brian Hoyer, whose value to the team cratered after Rivers was signed. The team has no use for him even if they do find a trade partner for Brissett, as either Swag Kelly or a drafted QB would be the presumptive QB2. Maybe Hoyer knows he is about to get cut and stopped answering his phone... In other news, this means that Quincy Wilson probably is no longer trade bait. I can't see them letting him go now despite the fact that he was often a healthy scratch. He played well when he did play but only dressed when he was asked to start. Backup CBs on the Colts have to play special teams and for some mysterious reason he simply did not play special teams...ever. Edit: Some more details here. Apparently the Colts went ahead and paid Desir all of his guaranteed money last year in a single cash payment, meaning that by cutting him today they have $0 in dead money, which would not be the case tomorrow. They are open to bringing him back under a contract that reflects his performance last season (which was a down year), but otherwise they save $7M in cap space. I assumed that there would be significant dead money, making it make less sense. Owing no money is good for once. I'm not too fond of Rivers being the starter (we cut Brian Hoyer today, by the way, meaning our depth chart will most likely be Philip Rivers, Jacoby Brisett, and perhaps Chad Kelly resigned to the Phillip Walker role on the practice squad), but given the terrible division we're in, if we draft defensively, we should easily run away with the AFC South. Likely won't matter in the playoffs since winning the AFC South is akin to being crowned King of Garbage Mountain, but barring anything catastrophic, it's a safe bet to see Indy back on top. I would not guarantee that QB depth chart. I am not convinced that the Colts won't trade Brissett. His trade value actually goes up now. Why? Any trading partner would now be responsible for less of Brissett's contract. Any team that held off on offering a viable trade for Brissett figuring that the Colts would simply release him, allowing them to acquire him without offering anything in return, now have to consider if they will make a viable offer for him now that the Colts no longer get great cap savings by cutting him earlier. Why would any team trade for Brissett? Well, his season last year was honestly two separate seasons: pre-injuries and post. The last half of the season was terrible, but QBs need healthy legs and healthy pass catchers and he had neither. Before he an all of his receivers got hurt, his season was going fairly well. He was clearly still a downgrade from Andrew Luck, but he was solid enough for those first 7 games. He averaged 227 yds a game, had a completion rate of 65%, a TD/Int ratio of 14/3, averaging a QB rating of 98.5, and leading the team to a 5-2 record. At best, that suggests that he could be a solid starter on a good team. At worst, it suggests he would be what he was before Luck retired: the best possible backup QB a contender could want. Let's say a team views Brissett as a top option for a backup QB for a contender. Now that the Colts are paying more of his contract, his pay to a new team would be in line for what you would pay for a top-tier backup. If you view him as a potential starter, then he actually becomes a steal for the upcoming season. Even lower tier starters get paid far more than Brissett would be paid by any team that trades for him now. So what would it cost to trade for Brissett? Well, before today a team would have had to pay a lot to Brissett once they traded for him, so they would have been reluctant to pull the trigger because of that, especially since he might have been released. Now? That's a more interesting question. The Colts insist that they want to keep Brissett as their QB2, and now there is less reason to view that as a bluff. It probably still is, but now that is not a certainty. At this point, the cost analysis for the Colts ignores the dead money they owe Jacoby and only considers what they would have to pay him if they keep him. If he is worth the difference of his net pay and the dead money, then there is little reason to get rid of him. In the case of Brissett, his leftover pay is basically a little more than what the Saints paid to have Bridgewater back up Brees last year. The Colts may legitimately be willing to pay that now, especially if they think he might be a real option for a starter post Rivers. Do I think he will be traded? That I don't know. A 3rd round pick would be good compensation from a contender for the Colts, I would think, though that might not be something that a team offers. Having said that, the Patriots have 3 3rd round picks and a serious need to get a QB that can play in their system. Brissett is already experienced in that system, which has a value of its own.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 23, 2020 14:50:52 GMT -5
Panthers QB Kyle Allen has been traded to the Redskins for a 5th round pick
Patriots have released K Stephen Gostkowski
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Post by Sicho100 on Mar 23, 2020 15:55:58 GMT -5
Panthers QB Kyle Allen has been traded to the Redskins for a 5th round pick ...Maybe Foles for a fourth wasn't such a bad deal after all.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 23, 2020 16:49:37 GMT -5
RB Dion Lewis signs with the Giants
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Post by arrogantmodel on Mar 23, 2020 17:49:15 GMT -5
Sanders is good in name but his production won't match the expectation Decent number 2 tho and in NO he should put up numbers just because of how they play but I don't see it as some big signing Maybe not a "big" signing, but a really, really smart one for New Orleans. They've got nothing at WR after Thomas, and Sanders had his best years as the bridesmaid to AB and Demaryius. He should have no issue living up to reasonable expectations, which should be being a dependable second option to relieve some of the burden from Thomas who can produce monster games from time to time. That's who he's always been and I think he'll continue to be. He hasn't had an elite QB for a long time either. It's wild that if the Saints make the Super Bowl, Sanders will have played in 4 Super Bowls with 4 teams.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2020 17:55:08 GMT -5
Maybe not a "big" signing, but a really, really smart one for New Orleans. They've got nothing at WR after Thomas, and Sanders had his best years as the bridesmaid to AB and Demaryius. He should have no issue living up to reasonable expectations, which should be being a dependable second option to relieve some of the burden from Thomas who can produce monster games from time to time. That's who he's always been and I think he'll continue to be. He hasn't had an elite QB for a long time either. It's wild that if the Saints make the Super Bowl, Sanders will have played in 4 Super Bowls with 4 teams. Won't happen. I bought a Brees jersey 2 years ago and clearly put a hex on them.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Mar 23, 2020 18:06:38 GMT -5
Redskins trade CB Quentin Dunbar to the Seahawks for a 5th round pick
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Post by BRV on Mar 23, 2020 19:21:48 GMT -5
What are the odds Belichick orchistrates a single year ultra-tank ala the Spurs did way back when to get Tim Duncan? Is there a early unanimous top pick next year? Clemson鈥檚 long haired QB? I just don't see Belichick tanking. He wouldn't have extended Devin McCourty and franchised Joe Thuney if that was the case. On top of that I think he might have his sights set on breaking Don Shula's wins record (inculding playoff wins). Shula stands at 347 Belichick has 304 so it might take 4 or 5 good seasons to break it. Anyway I see him trying to tread water this year while rebuilding but I don't see him tanking. I don't know if the Patriots' plan is to tank in 2020, but if what NFL Network's Ian Rapoport is reporting - that the signing of free agent quarterback Brian Hoyer is probably the end of the team's maneuvering at the position "given where NE is cap-wise" - then the plan won't be to put the best team possible on the field in 2020. Because going into training camp, it'll be a battle between Hoyer, Jarrett Stidham, and Cody Kessler for the starting job under center. Honestly, I'd rather see the Patriots just tank. I'd rather see one (or, at worst) two years of totally abominable, 2-14 or 3-13 football if the end goal is to become a Super Bowl contender as immediately as possible. The worst place you can be in the NFL is 8-8 or 7-9, too good to be drafting in the top-five but not good enough to be a playoff contender. Just rip this thing down to the studs, draft as many young assets as possible, clear as much cap space as possible, identify the pieces on your current roster that will be key to the next dynasty, let the Chiefs and Ravens have the next two years, and focus on 2022 and beyond.
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Post by h盲拧ht氓.gd膩l臈每 on Mar 23, 2020 19:24:16 GMT -5
XFL Star鈥檚 PJ Walker to Carolina and Jordan Ta鈥橝mu to KC.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 23, 2020 19:58:12 GMT -5
I just don't see Belichick tanking. He wouldn't have extended Devin McCourty and franchised Joe Thuney if that was the case. On top of that I think he might have his sights set on breaking Don Shula's wins record (inculding playoff wins). Shula stands at 347 Belichick has 304 so it might take 4 or 5 good seasons to break it. Anyway I see him trying to tread water this year while rebuilding but I don't see him tanking. I don't know if the Patriots' plan is to tank in 2020, but if what NFL Network's Ian Rapoport is reporting - that the signing of free agent quarterback Brian Hoyer is probably the end of the team's maneuvering at the position "given where NE is cap-wise" - then the plan won't be to put the best team possible on the field in 2020. Because going into training camp, it'll be a battle between Hoyer, Jarrett Stidham, and Cody Kessler for the starting job under center. Honestly, I'd rather see the Patriots just tank. I'd rather see one (or, at worst) two years of totally abominable, 2-14 or 3-13 football if the end goal is to become a Super Bowl contender as immediately as possible. The worst place you can be in the NFL is 8-8 or 7-9, too good to be drafting in the top-five but not good enough to be a playoff contender. Just rip this thing down to the studs, draft as many young assets as possible, clear as much cap space as possible, identify the pieces on your current roster that will be key to the next dynasty, let the Chiefs and Ravens have the next two years, and focus on 2022 and beyond. Might be a Warriors situation where they end up in a situation where injuries and lack of talent just forces them to say f*** it, let's kill it for the year and get the best pick possible I'm sure Bill would love a Blue Chipper like Trevor Lawrence for his last few years of coaching but if not you know he will do his due diligence. If anything, I see Josh finally being given the reigns in another 2 years before Bill fully transitions into GM role or outright retires They are like the Spurs now where that 20 year great run has come to an end and it is time to retool. Fans won't complain for a restart if they know the team will be good again within 5 years or so
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Mar 23, 2020 20:49:46 GMT -5
I don't know if the Patriots' plan is to tank in 2020, but if what NFL Network's Ian Rapoport is reporting - that the signing of free agent quarterback Brian Hoyer is probably the end of the team's maneuvering at the position "given where NE is cap-wise" - then the plan won't be to put the best team possible on the field in 2020. Because going into training camp, it'll be a battle between Hoyer, Jarrett Stidham, and Cody Kessler for the starting job under center. Honestly, I'd rather see the Patriots just tank. I'd rather see one (or, at worst) two years of totally abominable, 2-14 or 3-13 football if the end goal is to become a Super Bowl contender as immediately as possible. The worst place you can be in the NFL is 8-8 or 7-9, too good to be drafting in the top-five but not good enough to be a playoff contender. Just rip this thing down to the studs, draft as many young assets as possible, clear as much cap space as possible, identify the pieces on your current roster that will be key to the next dynasty, let the Chiefs and Ravens have the next two years, and focus on 2022 and beyond. Might be a Warriors situation where they end up in a situation where injuries and lack of talent just forces them to say f*** it, let's kill it for the year and get the best pick possible I'm sure Bill would love a Blue Chipper like Trevor Lawrence for his last few years of coaching but if not you know he will do his due diligence. If anything, I see Josh finally being given the reigns in another 2 years before Bill fully transitions into GM role or outright retires They are like the Spurs now where that 20 year great run has come to an end and it is time to retool. Fans won't complain for a restart if they know the team will be good again within 5 years or so I think most fans would tolerate a few off years. Sports media in Boston which is toxic wont and they'll play up worst case scenerio and if the Patriots arent 16-0 and winning the Super Bowl every year while curing cancer then theyre doing something wrong (Felger/Mazz) You need to find your QB. I think they're going to give Stidham a chance whole competing against two veteran QBs. If he's got it, awesome. If he doesnt we move on.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 23, 2020 21:02:19 GMT -5
Might be a Warriors situation where they end up in a situation where injuries and lack of talent just forces them to say f*** it, let's kill it for the year and get the best pick possible I'm sure Bill would love a Blue Chipper like Trevor Lawrence for his last few years of coaching but if not you know he will do his due diligence. If anything, I see Josh finally being given the reigns in another 2 years before Bill fully transitions into GM role or outright retires They are like the Spurs now where that 20 year great run has come to an end and it is time to retool. Fans won't complain for a restart if they know the team will be good again within 5 years or so I think most fans would tolerate a few off years. Sports media in Boston which is toxic wont and they'll play up worst case scenerio and if the Patriots arent 16-0 and winning the Super Bowl every year while curing cancer then theyre doing something wrong (Felger/Mazz) You need to find your QB. I think they're going to give Stidham a chance whole competing against two veteran QBs. If he's got it, awesome. If he doesnt we move on. Boston sports fan base as a whole is in a bit of a transition period and it would probably be good overall since honestly speaking they really haven't seen an outright bad team in damn near a generation They will bounce back for sure but it is going to be interesting to see how they handle this. I'm a bit surprised they aren't calling for someone like Cam, Dalton etc, a name who can guide them to the next period
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Post by Sam Punk on Mar 23, 2020 21:28:06 GMT -5
I don't think Belichick would draft Lawrence. He'll probably trade down and take a LB.
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Post by Mecca on Mar 24, 2020 8:26:02 GMT -5
I think most fans would tolerate a few off years. Sports media in Boston which is toxic wont and they'll play up worst case scenerio and if the Patriots arent 16-0 and winning the Super Bowl every year while curing cancer then theyre doing something wrong (Felger/Mazz) You need to find your QB. I think they're going to give Stidham a chance whole competing against two veteran QBs. If he's got it, awesome. If he doesnt we move on. Boston sports fan base as a whole is in a bit of a transition period and it would probably be good overall since honestly speaking they really haven't seen an outright bad team in damn near a generation They will bounce back for sure but it is going to be interesting to see how they handle this. I'm a bit surprised they aren't calling for someone like Cam, Dalton etc, a name who can guide them to the next period Boston lost Mookie Betts and Tom Brady close together......reality is sure to set in on the spoiled Boston fan base before long...oh and Sale having TJ.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Mar 24, 2020 9:51:41 GMT -5
Can Newton expected to be released today from Panthers
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