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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 17:27:37 GMT -5
Chiefs are going to have to continue to draft well and hope some guys are drawn to KC because theyβll be a perennial contender with one of the top 2 or 3 QBs in the league every year. He's not even a top 10. 1. Drew Brees 2. Deshaun Watson 3. Lamar Jackson 4. Jimmy G 5. Tom Brady 6. Russell Wilson 7. Ryan Tannehill 8. Josh Allen 9. Teddy Bridgewater 10. Kirk Cousins Maybe he's top 15 but not top ten let alone 2 or 3. Since when Jason Whitlock posted on here
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:27:44 GMT -5
You should check out Chris Simms pods on the top 40 QBs as it's insightful and he's good at what he does...but his top 10 is.. 1. Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs 2. Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks 3. Aaron Rodgers, Green Bay Packers 4. Deshaun Watson, Houston Texans 5. Lamar Jackson, Baltimore Ravens 6. Carson Wentz, Philadelphia Eagles 7. Matt Ryan, Atlanta Falcons 8. Dak Prescott, Dallas Cowboys 9. Matt Stafford, Detroit Lions 10. Cam Newton, Free Agent There are so many things wrong with that list that don't even involve the ridiculous decision to put Mahomes on it at all that it gives me more reason to doubt Simms' insights (Stafford isn't even a top 15 guy for starters and Rodgers, after the last couple of seasons, doesn't belong in a top ten either and I say that as a Packer fan), DeAndre Hopkins disagrees in a very amusing way... twitter.com/DeAndreHopkins/status/1280587151839821824
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:28:37 GMT -5
He's not even a top 10. 1. Drew Brees 2. Deshaun Watson 3. Lamar Jackson 4. Jimmy G 5. Tom Brady 6. Russell Wilson 7. Ryan Tannehill 8. Josh Allen 9. Teddy Bridgewater 10. Kirk Cousins Maybe he's top 15 but not top ten let alone 2 or 3. Since when Jason Whitlock posted on here I legit think Whitlock worked in KC to long so now he's upset the teams won after he left.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 7, 2020 17:29:12 GMT -5
Are you trying out for FS1 or something? I would take every single one of those ten over Mahomes any day of the week, whether in fantasy football or a real game. Dead serious. I just laughed so hard, I cracked several ribs and violently threw up. π Dude...come on. lol
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 17:31:47 GMT -5
I would take every single one of those ten over Mahomes any day of the week, whether in fantasy football or a real game. Dead serious. I just laughed so hard, I cracked several ribs and violently threw up. π Dude...come on. lol I'm not trolling with any of this. Mahomes is not someone I'd ever consider to be my QB under any circumstances.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:36:11 GMT -5
I just laughed so hard, I cracked several ribs and violently threw up. π Dude...come on. lol I'm not trolling with any of this. Mahomes is not someone I'd ever consider to be my QB under any circumstances. www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM2gsf9EDtgwww.youtube.com/watch?v=phDx7XSSD9gThose 2 plays are the difference in the Superbowl, now tell me how the guy with the stones to make the big plays isn't the guy you want?
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 17:36:18 GMT -5
Since when Jason Whitlock posted on here I legit think Whitlock worked in KC to long so now he's upset the teams won after he left. If you want to argue Mahomes is overrated. Fine, whatever that is logical enough because everyone gets tired of the hype machine However, to say he isn't top 10 is ridiculous. Everything about those claims is bullshit. You can't luck your way into that much fortune. Can Mahomes fall off? Absolutely. But to argue anything has done now which is win a superbowl as overrated is 100% pure hating
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 17:38:41 GMT -5
I legit think Whitlock worked in KC to long so now he's upset the teams won after he left. If you want to argue Mahomes is overrated. Fine, whatever that is logical enough because everyone gets tired of the hype machine However, to say he isn't top 10 is ridiculous. Everything about those claims is bullshit. You can't luck your way into that much fortune. Can Mahomes fall off? Absolutely. But to argue anything has done now which is win a superbowl as overrated is 100% pure hating It really isn't. Weak division, bad coaches, favorable ref calls, it all contributed to an undeserved SB for Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's not hating, it's seeing the truth of the whole thing.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:38:54 GMT -5
I legit think Whitlock worked in KC to long so now he's upset the teams won after he left. If you want to argue Mahomes is overrated. Fine, whatever that is logical enough because everyone gets tired of the hype machine However, to say he isn't top 10 is ridiculous. Everything about those claims is bullshit. You can't luck your way into that much fortune. Can Mahomes fall off? Absolutely. But to argue anything has done now which is win a superbowl as overrated is 100% pure hating I use to hate on Brady cause I got tired of him, but I never said he sucked either.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:39:45 GMT -5
If you want to argue Mahomes is overrated. Fine, whatever that is logical enough because everyone gets tired of the hype machine However, to say he isn't top 10 is ridiculous. Everything about those claims is bullshit. You can't luck your way into that much fortune. Can Mahomes fall off? Absolutely. But to argue anything has done now which is win a superbowl as overrated is 100% pure hating It really isn't. Weak division, bad coaches, favorable ref calls, it all contributed to an undeserved SB for Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's not hating, it's seeing the truth of the whole thing. You tell me how many players on that QB list of yours are coming back down 24-0.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 17:42:00 GMT -5
If you want to argue Mahomes is overrated. Fine, whatever that is logical enough because everyone gets tired of the hype machine However, to say he isn't top 10 is ridiculous. Everything about those claims is bullshit. You can't luck your way into that much fortune. Can Mahomes fall off? Absolutely. But to argue anything has done now which is win a superbowl as overrated is 100% pure hating It really isn't. Weak division, bad coaches, favorable ref calls, it all contributed to an undeserved SB for Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's not hating, it's seeing the truth of the whole thing.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 17:42:33 GMT -5
It really isn't. Weak division, bad coaches, favorable ref calls, it all contributed to an undeserved SB for Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's not hating, it's seeing the truth of the whole thing. You tell me how many players on that QB list of yours are coming back down 24-0. All of them except Watson because he plays for a hack.
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:44:34 GMT -5
You tell me how many players on that QB list of yours are coming back down 24-0. All of them except Watson because he plays for a hack. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARnNGPngvrUShitty players don't do these things... What sets Mahomes a part in my view is even when he isn't playing great he still finds a way. He played one of the worst games I've seen him play in the Superbowl and he took those last 7 minutes and won the game. The game is never over when he's on the field.
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 17:47:29 GMT -5
All of them except Watson because he plays for a hack. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARnNGPngvrUShitty players don't do these things... What sets Mahomes a part in my view is even when he isn't playing great he still finds a way. He played one of the worst games I've seen him play in the Superbowl and he took those last 7 minutes and won the game. The game is never over when he's on the field. He only took that because Shanahan never learned his goddamned lesson from SB 51. Good coaches don't choke like that. Oh, and said worst game should have kept him from being MVP and he really should not have won that (Williams should have) any more than Brady should not have been MVP of SB 51 (JAMES. WHITE.).
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 17:49:12 GMT -5
It really isn't. Weak division, bad coaches, favorable ref calls, it all contributed to an undeserved SB for Mahomes and the Chiefs. It's not hating, it's seeing the truth of the whole thing. I'm gonna go a step further and call it right now: the Chiefs won't even make it back to the SB next season. Oh sure, they'll win the league's second-weakest division again but another ring? Not even close.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jul 7, 2020 17:51:47 GMT -5
I think we need to test some forum members for CTE. π
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Post by Mecca on Jul 7, 2020 17:52:57 GMT -5
I'm gonna go a step further and call it right now: the Chiefs won't even make it back to the SB next season. Oh sure, they'll win the league's second-weakest division again but another ring? Not even close. You know the odds of previous teams returning is going to be greater than ever before with the lack of camps and such right? Teams that are cohesive and still together have a greater chance of being good than teams with a lot of overturn, there's a reason the Chiefs basically are bringing back the same team.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jul 7, 2020 17:54:54 GMT -5
I'm gonna go a step further and call it right now: the Chiefs won't even make it back to the SB next season. Oh sure, they'll win the league's second-weakest division again but another ring? Not even close. That's not some bold prediction you're making It is f***ing hard to go to back to back SB's much less win it back to back
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Post by Gus Richlen Was Wrong on Jul 7, 2020 17:59:28 GMT -5
I'm gonna go a step further and call it right now: the Chiefs won't even make it back to the SB next season. Oh sure, they'll win the league's second-weakest division again but another ring? Not even close. You know the odds of previous teams returning is going to be greater than ever before with the lack of camps and such right? Teams that are cohesive and still together have a great chance of being good than teams with a lot of overturn, there's a reason the Chiefs basically are bringing back the same team. Except the odds of teams repeating SB trips are bad and going back-to-back as champs even more so and that's not a Chiefs thing either. Even the Patriots had a hard time pulling it off and they had three straight appearances at one point. Even if I didn't disagree so much with the Chiefs mania I'd be down on their chances because bringing back most of the same team means nothing. I've seen Green Bay do that twice after SB wins and the first time they underestimated Denver and the second time they didn't even escape the Divisional Round.
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Post by Perd on Jul 7, 2020 18:04:16 GMT -5
In future news, the Bears have hired Gustav Richlen as GM.
Gus, you seem like a good guy. But your opinion, and everything youβve posted, besides the AFC West being bad, has been opinion and not fact, is bonkers and flat out wrong.
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