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Post by romanstylesiii on May 26, 2019 16:25:51 GMT -5
Any idea on what they can get?
TNA averaged 1.1. WCW in their dying days was getting just over a 2.2. WWE is hovering around 1.7 right now (all time low was a few weeks ago).
So a 1.4 seems reasonable?
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on May 26, 2019 16:44:03 GMT -5
We really won't be able to tell the general interest until after the debut. And then we won't have an idea about the baseline until a year out.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 16:45:21 GMT -5
I wish they were debuting on TV sooner. There seems to be such a buzz at the moment. Still, the monthly shows should be great.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 18:11:30 GMT -5
I’d be willing to bet that their debut show does a really good number and beats WWE for the week, before they settle into their ratings zone. No clue how many viewers or what the Nielsen would be though.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 26, 2019 18:15:17 GMT -5
I've got no clue at all. If the estimate of 200k PPV/BR buys is true, that bodes incredibly well, but I have no idea how they arrived at those numbers so they could be off base.
Best I can tell they don't need to have insane ratings, so let's say shoot for an audience of over 500,000 and try to push toward a million? TNA would get 1.5 million in the past, but that was before cord cutting got way in vogue, so it's hard to say.
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Post by eJm on May 26, 2019 18:18:22 GMT -5
I wish they were debuting on TV sooner. There seems to be such a buzz at the moment. Still, the monthly shows should be great. And on the flip side, I’d rather they have the chance to get a format down on what they want and how the rankings work before getting on TV. Better something they can take their time on rather than getting there to get there.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 19:42:35 GMT -5
Idk how true that rumor was that TNT expects them to average atleast 400k but if that is anywhere close to the number then it is not unreasonable but it wont be easy as there is just so many things to watch that appeal to all types of viewers.
And then later this year the Disney streaming service is going to launch and with them already in full ownership of hulu and putting stuff like the netflix cancelled series on there that number again if true is just gonna become not so much difficult to attain but to actually maintain it.
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Post by thecrusherwi on May 26, 2019 20:25:23 GMT -5
Do we even know what night they’ll be on yet? That will have a lot to do with it.
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Post by Convoy on May 26, 2019 20:52:21 GMT -5
Do we even know what night they’ll be on yet? That will have a lot to do with it. Nothing confirmed on night, time or length – just that they’re on TNT staring in October. My guess is Tuesday nights from 8-10pm EST. Ideally timed to when Smackdown moves to Fridays on Fox to free-up that night, but still have wrestling fans expecting a show to watch.
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Post by honsou on May 26, 2019 22:04:37 GMT -5
Anything above a 1.0 would have to be considered a success to start with. Anything above that would be a wild success. It would be fascinating to see if it got above a 1.5
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Post by Mozenrath on May 26, 2019 22:09:25 GMT -5
Do we even know what night they’ll be on yet? That will have a lot to do with it. Signs seem to be pointing towards Tuesdays. Smackdown's moving to Fridays for Fox, one of AEW's first trademarks was supposedly "Tuesday Night Dynamite", which makes me wonder if they had plenty of reason to think they'd be getting TNT given the name, and it means they don't have to go against WWE and get to swoop in on a night people already associate with wrestling.
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Post by Tenshigure on May 26, 2019 22:13:16 GMT -5
There's no specific number IMO that would quantify their success, it would more so be important that they have CONSISTENT ratings that don't face plant after a few months to give them plenty of momentum.
I doubt they'll see WWE numbers for at least the first few years, but I could see them aiming for at least half of whatever the WWE is getting as a realistic goal (ie 1-1.5 million) until they establish themselves, which actually also puts them in the above-average TNT ratings range as well (minus NBA coverage of course).
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Post by Convoy on May 26, 2019 22:18:00 GMT -5
For the record, SDL on Fox starts 10/4, so I would imagine a start date for AEW at 10/1 or 10/8. Either way, they should spend some cash and have a booth at NYCC.
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Post by cabbageboy on May 26, 2019 22:25:23 GMT -5
I thought the other day that it's a shame TNT stayed away from wrestling so long because the notion of "TNA on TNT" has a certain ring to it. I really do think TNA royally screwed up by having Vince Russo book there for so many years. TNA's strength was in its hard working roster, which is totally not what Russo does with his Crash TV silliness. Impact was amusing to be sure but it wasn't what you'd call a GOOD show exactly, which is sad because a 2007 TNA house show I went to was one of the best shows I've ever seen. TNA had the talent to be a true major league alternative. I supported them, good or bad, until I literally had no available TV channel to watch.
As far as this 200,000 thing, can we get an actual Meltzer quote on that? I think he was referring more to the amount of Google Trend searches the PPV got, not that they did 200,000 buys. That's pretty great if they did though.
Keep this in mind about Nitro. Nitro beat Raw almost immediately head to head, I think 2.5 to 2.2. On one hand WCW was already a far more known product than AEW, but that can cut both ways. WCW was also a largely awful product for the 2nd half of 1994 and most of 1995 leading up to the debut of Nitro. It was almost assuredly not a hot show. This was the era of WCW where Hogan was feuding with the Giant in monster truck battles and they had all that Dungeon of Doom crap. AEW at least right now has largely positive buzz so far, so I will be anxious to see exactly how many people watch that debut.
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Post by Dub H on May 26, 2019 23:32:49 GMT -5
There's no specific number IMO that would quantify their success, it would more so be important that they have CONSISTENT ratings that don't face plant after a few months to give them plenty of momentum. I doubt they'll see WWE numbers for at least the first few years, but I could see them aiming for at least half of whatever the WWE is getting as a realistic goal (ie 1-1.5 million) until they establish themselves, which actually also puts them in the above-average TNT ratings range as well (minus NBA coverage of course). What would TNT consider a "failure" in ratings?
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Post by Tenshigure on May 27, 2019 0:04:47 GMT -5
There's no specific number IMO that would quantify their success, it would more so be important that they have CONSISTENT ratings that don't face plant after a few months to give them plenty of momentum. I doubt they'll see WWE numbers for at least the first few years, but I could see them aiming for at least half of whatever the WWE is getting as a realistic goal (ie 1-1.5 million) until they establish themselves, which actually also puts them in the above-average TNT ratings range as well (minus NBA coverage of course). What would TNT consider a "failure" in ratings? If I had to put a number on it? A sub-0.3 in their target demo. Most if the TNT shows that failed to stay above that typically were either cancelled or shifted to other dates in an attempt to fix them.
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