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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 17:04:24 GMT -5
Nonsense. Just admit that the belt looks f***ing ugly instead of constantly defending the company. This is why Vince thinks everything is great when you have people around constantly blaming the fans instead of the product.
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Post by Doctor No on May 28, 2019 17:12:58 GMT -5
A ugly title design and a bad presentation with the first Hardcore champion Mick Foley alluding to the Hardcore title only to reveal their half baked title, were the problem.
I donât get the âthey canât do the Hardcore title stuff anymoreâ excuse. The ones that made anybody think it was possibly the Hardcore title were the company itself.
Donât make promises or allude to stuff that you canât deliver(especially when your title looks like a temporary/placeholder design).
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 17:18:32 GMT -5
A ugly title design and a bad presentation with the first Hardcore champion Mick Foley alluding to the Hardcore title only to reveal their half baked title, were the problem. I donât get the âthey canât do the Hardcore title stuff anymoreâ excuse. The ones that made anybody think it was possibly the Hardcore title were the company itself. Donât make promises or allude to stuff that you canât deliver(especially when your title looks like a temporary/placeholder design). This generation is weird. My ass would be beat if I was up at 1030 at night. Watching people beat the shit out of each other. My bedtime until I was 13, was 9. Parent groups/advertisers should have no say on content at that hour. Their kid needs to be asleep for school.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 28, 2019 17:22:10 GMT -5
Man Mick is off base with that first sentence alone. Shit, if the belt was the classic Hardcore Title, the Winged Eagle, that would have gotten pops. That belt was Chris Benoit ugly. Exactly, if he pulled out a new design that was on the level of the UK Titles, the crowd would have popped. That belt was freaking ugly.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on May 28, 2019 17:28:08 GMT -5
Mick, I'm sorry...but any belt designer could tell you that belt only looks a little above something you would win in a backyard wrestling promotion.
As far as the Universal Title goes, it still looks bad. Hell, almost all your belts right now look like the crap because you are so in on having a different color scheme than what is fine.
Hell, you might not remember Mick, but when Daniel Bryan brought out his world title design, people freaking loved it because it was a cool design that worked with his gimmick.
If you have a good belt, people will be fine with it.
EDIT: Oh, and you can say Hardcore Title, but of course....it isn't one of the company buzzwords these days like sports entertainment enthusiasts and as long as you keep using unnecessary word play to try and separate yourselves from everyone else, we will hate the names.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson đ„ on May 28, 2019 17:29:56 GMT -5
If he would have busted out two tickets for the next AEW event, people would be cheering and screaming like it was the attitude era all over again...
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 28, 2019 17:30:03 GMT -5
Also even if the R Truth stuff wasn't getting some pretty good reception and the booing was always about the ugly-ass belt. So f***ing what if someone's not entertained by R Truth? Wrestling attracts the most thin skinned people.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on May 28, 2019 17:32:19 GMT -5
He's right. They would have booed anything. The thing is, that isn't the fans' damn fault.Like, anybody here who still does or doesn't watch WWE. If they asked you, 'what is it you want us to do to make the show better?' I can guarantee that even if you do miss the hardcore title, this would not have been the first thing you said, right? Like... you want us to convince Dean to stay? You want logical booking? You want wins and losses to matter? You want announcers that sound like humans instead of androids? You want us to actually behave with accountability for past atrocities, even if we're claiming/they don't happen any more? You want us to turn people you like babyfaces, and take people you think suck in a non-heel way off television? Even if your wishes are contradictory to some of the rest of the fanbase - you love Brock, you hate Brock, you're happy for Kofi, you think he'll never be a main eventer no matter how long he has the belt. Well, don't worry folks, we have the solution because heeeeeeeere's... ANOTHER BELT! And this one couldn't POSSIBLY matter any less, because R-Truth has it, and he won it from Titus goddamn only famous for two things neither of which is wrestling O'Neal.They could not be more out of touch with what's going on. And honestly, you could make a better looking belt even if you had actually made it out of Mick's flesh. What the absolute f***? Side note: Mick is my favourite wrestler. I am very sad to see him get booed. I am very sad to see him becoming the crotchety veterans that he hated when he was coming up. This is all just really, really sad. They wouldnât have booed a strap-on. You canât boo Mick Fooley holding a strap-on. Itâs science. I would be surprised, though. I don't get the sense Mick's previous life choices have left him much room to be spending time on his knees.
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Post by SparkyPlugg on May 28, 2019 17:33:42 GMT -5
I think that it was just because it wasnât the hardcore title. Fans are fed up of getting this watered down product....and the fact the belt is ugly af.
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Post by arrogantmodel on May 28, 2019 17:41:07 GMT -5
The 24/7 rule got annoying really fast back in the day. People have ten title reigns in a week is ridiculous.
Back in SmackDown vs. Raw 2006 (underrated game btw) my friends and I created the "Blood Championship." The strap was blood red, literally how it was listed in the game, had skull side plates, and a big skull center plate that had rubies in the eye sockets.
It looked cool as hell, and it could only be defended in gimmick matches (hardcore, ladder, cage, cell, falls count anywhere, etc.)
That would have been a better idea. And honestly, the hardcore matches were fun as hell. Just have fun with the kendo stick, trash cans, stop sign, cookie sheet, fire extinguisher, tables, and even the bowling ball.
You can do hardcore without going full ECW with gushing blood and staple guns and cheese graters and stuff.
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Post by MrElijah on May 28, 2019 17:48:07 GMT -5
They wouldnât have booed a strap-on. You canât boo Mick Fooley holding a strap-on. Itâs science.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 28, 2019 17:59:32 GMT -5
Mick sure went from viral âDoes WWE hate the fans?â Tweet and smashing a TV to itâs the fans fault pretty quickly.
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Post by Hit Girl on May 28, 2019 18:01:03 GMT -5
They are paying him so everything becomes the fan's fault again
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Post by arrogantmodel on May 28, 2019 18:04:16 GMT -5
Mick sure went from viral âDoes WWE hate the fans?â Tweet and smashing a TV to itâs the fans fault pretty quickly. You know what? I'm not Captain America. And I am far from financially secure. But I would feel like a real scumbag if I turned my back on people who looked to me to be their voice for a paycheck. I do have a little thing called integrity.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 28, 2019 18:08:52 GMT -5
Mick sure went from viral âDoes WWE hate the fans?â Tweet and smashing a TV to itâs the fans fault pretty quickly. You know what? I'm not Captain America. And I am far from financially secure. But I would feel like a real scumbag if I turned my back on people who looked to me to be their voice for a paycheck. I do have a little thing called integrity. Mick has never had a problem calling out the company in the past. I mean, that could really be his opinion. The McMahons saying we listen to the fans as the company line and then having the workers come out and say the fans just hate everything isnât doing anyone any favors.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on May 28, 2019 18:11:32 GMT -5
What's hilarious about the idea that fans just hated the red title belt is that I remember the response for the current WWE World Heavyweight Title when it got revealed, and it got booed too. www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5SDe9Xab3Y
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 18:12:03 GMT -5
Mick sure went from viral âDoes WWE hate the fans?â Tweet and smashing a TV to itâs the fans fault pretty quickly. Mick will do pretty much anything for a dollar.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 28, 2019 18:13:07 GMT -5
Mick sure went from viral âDoes WWE hate the fans?â Tweet and smashing a TV to itâs the fans fault pretty quickly. Mick will do pretty much anything for a dollar. Well, I didnât really want to say that.
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Post by fw91 on May 28, 2019 18:20:39 GMT -5
yeah it's not a great looking belt, but for the concept and sillyness of it all, what would we want it to look like?
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Post by BoomPeriod on May 28, 2019 18:22:34 GMT -5
Foley should have pulled a middle finger out of the bag. SWERVE new boom period
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