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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:07:49 GMT -5
He just never looked happy doing that stuff. I feel his best work was that Kingpin Ambrose later 2016 saga but shit even then they had him doing idiot stuff to a degree. He really set it up well saying they had him do silly and stupid stuff. Like man, people really got his character wrong. I don't get why. To me, it's clear he has facets of Pillman, Piper and Jake Roberts. Has an edge, you're unsure what he may do next, an utter disregard for authority, and totally eloquent in his underlying intelligence and methodical nature. He's darkly compelling in such a natural way and I don't understand why they insisted on shoving the proverbial square peg into a round hole. I mean, I understand but I don't, you know? It's right there. Vinny Mac is gonna Vinny Mac.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:11:32 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining.
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Post by King Boo on May 29, 2019 15:11:38 GMT -5
I don't get why. To me, it's clear he has facets of Pillman, Piper and Jake Roberts. Has an edge, you're unsure what he may do next, an utter disregard for authority, and totally eloquent in his underlying intelligence and methodical nature. He's darkly compelling in such a natural way and I don't understand why they insisted on shoving the proverbial square peg into a round hole. I mean, I understand but I don't, you know? It's right there. Vinny Mac is gonna Vinny Mac. Depressingly, the only thing to be said at this point.
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Post by Dub H on May 29, 2019 15:14:44 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining. Yeh it was his exact words
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Post by cabbageboy on May 29, 2019 15:15:40 GMT -5
Here's the thing. Moxley is 100% right about Lesnar. He pretty much has wrecked the company in a lot of ways. I mentioned a last week that Lesnar being pushed so hard above everyone with his limited dates has turned WWE's main roster into 1990s era USWA or SMW where the WWF would send the big stars to "help" them out, but then in the weeks that followed the gates tanked with the usual crew. Except now Vince has done this to his own roster.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:17:10 GMT -5
Vinny Mac is gonna Vinny Mac. Depressingly, the only thing to be said at this point. It really makes you wonder. Like stated, Ambrose was one of the cornerstones these past 5 years. The Shield was always protected. Out of the new class, he was one of those guys. One of the only guys to beat Cena, Reigns and Rollins clean. One of the only guys who's finisher is never kicked out of. The guy had a WM match with Lesnar. The guy always had a segment. If Ambrose feels like this, if Ambrose had to go through this and we had no idea just imagine how EVERYBODY else feels. That. Is. Scary.
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Post by darbus alan on May 29, 2019 15:17:52 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining. The exact quote more or less was "Vince has the Million Dollar Man thing going on. That's why he pays Brock millions of dollars to ruin his company. So he can say 'He's MY attraction!'" I'm about an hour ten in and that's the only mention of Brock. I don't even think it's a shot at Lesnar himself, but how little he actually shows up when he's a champion whether that's on Brock himself or on WWE booking it that way.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:18:23 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining. Man it's almost like dude's got a FAN account lmao. He's saying everything we've been saying for years regardless of how many people said we don't know what goes on backstage. Dude was LITERALLY getting sick because he hates his job. That shit is crazy.
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Post by Dub H on May 29, 2019 15:19:49 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining. The exact quote more or less was "Vince has the Million Dollar Man thing going on. That's why he pays Brock millions of dollars to ruin his company. So he can say 'He's MY attraction!'" I'm about an hour ten in and that's the only mention of Brock. I don't even think it's a shot at Lesnar himself, but how little he actually shows up when he's a champion whether that's on Brock himself or on WWE booking it that way. After Lesnar shot down every idea Moxley had for the WM matchand left...that. I doubt he is a big fan
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:20:28 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining. The exact quote more or less was "Vince has the Million Dollar Man thing going on. That's why he pays Brock millions of dollars to ruin his company. So he can say 'He's MY attraction!'" I'm about an hour ten in and that's the only mention of Brock. I don't even think it's a shot at Lesnar himself, but how little he actually shows up when he's a champion whether that's on Brock himself or on WWE booking it that way. I don't blame Brock or anyone else for getting whatever deal they can out of WWE, I've always been more annoyed with the company itself for bending over backwards for the guy. I've been enjoying him the last couple weeks now that he's been showing some personality, but he ain't the draw they seem to think he is.
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Post by darbus alan on May 29, 2019 15:22:30 GMT -5
"Hello Renee." lol
Jon got $500 for that last Shield network special with that house show match. That's just a slap in the face.
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Post by King Boo on May 29, 2019 15:22:32 GMT -5
Depressingly, the only thing to be said at this point. It really makes you wonder. Like stated, Ambrose was one of the cornerstones these past 5 years. The Shield was always protected. Out of the new class, he was one of those guys. One of the only guys to beat Cena, Reigns and Rollins clean. One of the only guys who's finisher is never kicked out of. The guy had a WM match with Lesnar. The guy always had a segment. If Ambrose feels like this, if Ambrose had to go through this and we had no idea just imagine how EVERYBODY else feels. That. Is. Scary. Right? It's like "if it can happen to him, it can happen to anyone", except probably worse.
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Post by ANuclearError on May 29, 2019 15:34:10 GMT -5
Depressingly, the only thing to be said at this point. It really makes you wonder. Like stated, Ambrose was one of the cornerstones these past 5 years. The Shield was always protected. Out of the new class, he was one of those guys. One of the only guys to beat Cena, Reigns and Rollins clean. One of the only guys who's finisher is never kicked out of. The guy had a WM match with Lesnar. The guy always had a segment. If Ambrose feels like this, if Ambrose had to go through this and we had no idea just imagine how EVERYBODY else feels. That. Is. Scary.
Honestly, the main take I've gotten from all this is that Shinsuke Nakamura is the luckiest damn guy on the whole roster. Dude just wants to surf in Florida, he's sorted.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 29, 2019 15:41:42 GMT -5
I don't blame Brock or anyone else for getting whatever deal they can out of WWE, I've always been more annoyed with the company itself for bending over backwards for the guy. Pretty much. Like, signing the deal they did you could put down to an error or a risk that didn’t pay off. Renewing that deal repeatedly, however? That’s either a lack of awareness or, as Dean said, wanting of ownership over UFC or dare I say AEW. I always go back to that period they tried to make him seem like lazy and didn’t care on TV and “the worst universal champion of all time” and it’s like “Kurt, you are the on screen GM. You can strip him and fire him pretty easily if you wanted to. Quit whining!”
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on May 29, 2019 15:41:59 GMT -5
Did dude really say straight up that Brock Lesnar is ruining WWE? Man, I gotta listen to this. Mox is my guy and this sounds super entertaining. The exact quote more or less was "Vince has the Million Dollar Man thing going on. That's why he pays Brock millions of dollars to ruin his company. So he can say 'He's MY attraction!'" I'm about an hour ten in and that's the only mention of Brock. I don't even think it's a shot at Lesnar himself, but how little he actually shows up when he's a champion whether that's on Brock himself or on WWE booking it that way. The biggest beef he's had with Lesnar was when he and Heyman basically put down all his ideas like they did to Roman so yeah doubt he's a big fan of Lesnar but that quote seems more directed to Vince and Brock is the guy he pays the most to so you can insert name of whoever the next person gets paid the most
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 15:43:50 GMT -5
It really makes you wonder. Like stated, Ambrose was one of the cornerstones these past 5 years. The Shield was always protected. Out of the new class, he was one of those guys. One of the only guys to beat Cena, Reigns and Rollins clean. One of the only guys who's finisher is never kicked out of. The guy had a WM match with Lesnar. The guy always had a segment. If Ambrose feels like this, if Ambrose had to go through this and we had no idea just imagine how EVERYBODY else feels. That. Is. Scary. Honestly, the main take I've gotten from all this is that Shinsuke Nakamura is the luckiest damn guy on the whole roster. Dude just wants to surf in Florida, he's sorted.
And look at #watertowers.
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Post by darbus alan on May 29, 2019 15:43:59 GMT -5
Ah, so it was "Sick" Nick Mondo who filmed that Jon Moxley trailer for him. Didn't realize he became a filmmaker.
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2019 15:45:09 GMT -5
I'm sure Reigns isn't a fan of some of the idiotic promos he's gotten that have made him look terrible either.....but not everyone can leave, AEW doesn't have a spot for everyone so a lot of them are just going to keep dealing with it to get paid.
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on May 29, 2019 15:48:58 GMT -5
Lmao at Vince super proud of his horrible doctor promo telling Dean “Get out of here you scamp!”
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Post by MrElijah on May 29, 2019 15:52:05 GMT -5
The exact quote more or less was "Vince has the Million Dollar Man thing going on. That's why he pays Brock millions of dollars to ruin his company. So he can say 'He's MY attraction!'" I'm about an hour ten in and that's the only mention of Brock. I don't even think it's a shot at Lesnar himself, but how little he actually shows up when he's a champion whether that's on Brock himself or on WWE booking it that way. I don't blame Brock or anyone else for getting whatever deal they can out of WWE, I've always been more annoyed with the company itself for bending over backwards for the guy. I've been enjoying him the last couple weeks now that he's been showing some personality, but he ain't the draw they seem to think he is. See, when it comes to Brock, he left. As did the Rock and they both succeeded outside of the WWF/E bubble. They were both pushed out of the gate, both were top guys before 30, Brock squashing Hogan AND Flair in his 1st year. And they left. Their full time runs clocked in at a combined 8 years. To Vince, he made them and they left. And it f***s with him.
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