Mecca
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2019 15:56:33 GMT -5
I don't blame Brock or anyone else for getting whatever deal they can out of WWE, I've always been more annoyed with the company itself for bending over backwards for the guy. I've been enjoying him the last couple weeks now that he's been showing some personality, but he ain't the draw they seem to think he is. See, when it comes to Brock, he left. As did the Rock and they both succeeded outside of the WWF/E bubble. They were both pushed out of the gate, both were top guys before 30, Brock squashing Hogan AND Flair in his 1st year. And they left. Their full time runs clocked in at a combined 8 years. To Vince, he made them and they left. And it f***s with him. That stuff is why today the brand is the star, they don't want any wrestler to ever hold the power over them again where they can call the shots.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 29, 2019 15:58:17 GMT -5
So the public good bye to Dean was just a way of WWE desperately controlling the narrative, while behind the scenes they gave him a purposely insulting check for The Sheild's Last Ride appeance as a final f*** you to him. Insane.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 16:00:37 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Ambrose is attacking Vince all through this and he barely says anything about Triple H?
Shoutout to those people who said that Trips was just as much of the problem as Vince.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on May 29, 2019 16:04:05 GMT -5
I feel bad now for loving Hobo Ambrose.
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Post by MrElijah on May 29, 2019 16:04:09 GMT -5
See, when it comes to Brock, he left. As did the Rock and they both succeeded outside of the WWF/E bubble. They were both pushed out of the gate, both were top guys before 30, Brock squashing Hogan AND Flair in his 1st year. And they left. Their full time runs clocked in at a combined 8 years. To Vince, he made them and they left. And it f***s with him. That stuff is why today the brand is the star, they don't want any wrestler to ever hold the power over them again where they can call the shots. And it's biting them in the ass. And the funniest shit? Brock still has the cards because Vince is paying him top dollar(and I wonder how much that had to do with Heyman), Big Dave is getting Disney money and Cena might be all but gone.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 29, 2019 16:05:49 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Ambrose is attacking Vince all through this and he barely says anything about Triple H? Shoutout to those people who said that Trips was just as much of the problem as Vince. Not one single bad word about HHH at all. I noticed that too.
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Mecca
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2019 16:06:02 GMT -5
That stuff is why today the brand is the star, they don't want any wrestler to ever hold the power over them again where they can call the shots. And it's biting them in the ass. And the funniest shit? Brock still has the cards because Vince is paying him top dollar(and I wonder how much that had to do with Heyman), Big Dave is getting Disney money and Cena might be all but gone. It's 100% stupid, it's literally like that story Honky Tonk Man told, the more you act like you don't want them the more they want you. Said King Kong Bundy is a nice dude and would do anything they asked him so when they bring legends back they don't want him because he'll always say yes......but they always try to get the guys they think will turn them down. It's a Vince problem.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on May 29, 2019 16:07:03 GMT -5
"Hello Renee." lol Jon got $500 for that last Shield network special with that house show match. That's just a slap in the face.
That says a lot about Vince in the final moment. Like at the end of the day the way he chooses to make that one final disrespect move is with a shitty payout for his big sendoff match. This wasn't about money and still Vince felt the need to screw the guy on his payout.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 29, 2019 16:08:01 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Ambrose is attacking Vince all through this and he barely says anything about Triple H? Shoutout to those people who said that Trips was just as much of the problem as Vince. Has anybody besides Punk had a bad thing to say about corporate executive HHH?
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Post by Mecca on May 29, 2019 16:09:00 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Ambrose is attacking Vince all through this and he barely says anything about Triple H? Shoutout to those people who said that Trips was just as much of the problem as Vince. Has anybody besides Punk had a bad thing to say about corporate executive HHH? Punks about the only one I can think of.... You have to wonder how annoyed H is getting at this entire thing, he's not dumb he knows Vince is being a f***ing idiot.
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Post by Viking Hall on May 29, 2019 16:10:53 GMT -5
This explains so much as to why I could never stand Dean Ambrose on my brief views of him on WWE.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 29, 2019 16:12:36 GMT -5
So another thing about the "final check" story... In wrestling the word "jobber" is a nono, WWE uses "extra".
So that check was the minimum that WWE pays extras.The story is so crazy because Vince cut him literally a jobber check for a show centered around him. Mox didn't take the bait though and didn't go fight it. Vince wanted a damn fight over money on the way out.
I love Jericho's idea of framing it.
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Post by MrElijah on May 29, 2019 16:12:48 GMT -5
Also, doesn't this remind people of how Randy Savage left? Both wanted to do more, both got annoyed with Vince and both eventually left.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on May 29, 2019 16:13:57 GMT -5
Also, doesn't this remind people of how Randy Savage left? Both wanted to do more, both got annoyed with Vince and both eventually left. Considering Dean the Savage of this era is hella fitting.
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Post by domrep on May 29, 2019 16:15:06 GMT -5
"Hello Renee." lol Jon got $500 for that last Shield network special with that house show match. That's just a slap in the face.
That says a lot about Vince in the final moment. Like at the end of the day the way he chooses to make that one final disrespect move is with a shitty payout for his big sendoff match. This wasn't about money and still Vince felt the need to screw the guy on his payout. And then he has the balls to text Dean to see if he can do the Euro tour lol.
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Post by domrep on May 29, 2019 16:15:57 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Ambrose is attacking Vince all through this and he barely says anything about Triple H? Shoutout to those people who said that Trips was just as much of the problem as Vince. It's b/c Hunter's hands are tied. You can have 75 writers, HHH who has built an excellent brand in NXT, but they are all writing for an audience of 1 and that's Vince.
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Post by ANuclearError on May 29, 2019 16:16:09 GMT -5
Also, doesn't this remind people of how Randy Savage left? Both wanted to do more, both got annoyed with Vince and both eventually left. Considering Dean the Savage of this era is hella fitting. Except Dean & Renee appears to be a much, much healthier relationship.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on May 29, 2019 16:18:49 GMT -5
So the public good bye to Dean was just a way of WWE desperately controlling the narrative, while behind the scenes they gave him a purposely insulting check for The Sheild's Last Ride appeance as a final f*** you to him. Insane. I also felt that maybe the wwe might have thought it was a way to get the fans to pressure him to resign because of the outpour of support.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 16:18:54 GMT -5
Them paying Ambrose only (a lot of us would probably take it, but he's not wrong for seeing it as a slap to the face) $500 is crazy. The Rock spends that on his shirts alone.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2019 16:33:37 GMT -5
LOL. Dude gave Vince a proper hiding there.
We all know that Vince is a washed up has been, but it’s hilarious to see him get blistered publicly like this,
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