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Post by Mozenrath on May 29, 2019 23:52:30 GMT -5
absolutely awesome interview. They didnt learn from Punk and they probably won’t learn from this Probably not, though this one is going to sting them even more, I think. No Z-Packs to point to, this is all on the writing.
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Post by honsou on May 30, 2019 0:08:18 GMT -5
absolutely awesome interview. They didnt learn from Punk and they probably won’t learn from this This is just so much worse than the Punk interview. He got to leave on his own terms, WWE gave him a pretty good send off and he immediately has a big intro with another company. The podcast is the icing on the cake because its just him talking about how terrible the booking is but somehow he didn't come off as bitter. This is one of those moments we'll talk about in 10 years
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Post by Mozenrath on May 30, 2019 0:12:46 GMT -5
absolutely awesome interview. They didnt learn from Punk and they probably won’t learn from this This is just so much worse than the Punk interview. He got to leave on his own terms, WWE gave him a pretty good send off and he immediately has a big intro with another company. The podcast is the icing on the cake because its just him talking about how terrible the booking is but somehow he didn't come off as bitter. This is one of those moments we'll talk about in 10 years Yep, plus Punk went off to do MMA in what kept him off the radar for a fair bit. Moxley's going to be wrestling in front of a lot of people, between working AEW, NJPW, and anything else. He's going to be a consistent presence.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 30, 2019 0:30:56 GMT -5
This is just so much worse than the Punk interview. He got to leave on his own terms, WWE gave him a pretty good send off and he immediately has a big intro with another company. The podcast is the icing on the cake because its just him talking about how terrible the booking is but somehow he didn't come off as bitter. This is one of those moments we'll talk about in 10 years Yep, plus Punk went off to do MMA in what kept him off the radar for a fair bit. Moxley's going to be wrestling in front of a lot of people, between working AEW, NJPW, and anything else. He's going to be a consistent presence. Also Punk has the reputation of being a miserable ass that's almost never happy about anything. Jean Moxbrose doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 1:15:08 GMT -5
Something else that stood out to me was him saying towards the end (I think) that HHH allows for more wiggle room with promos. Even though I know things wouldn't be perfect under him and Steph, that's at least an encouraging piece of info.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 1:36:50 GMT -5
One of my favourite parts, is that the twitter video was used as proof by some that he had let left WWE and it was all a work because of the high production values.
Instead, it cost 8 grand and was made by Sick Nick Mondo. That’s amazing.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 30, 2019 2:35:06 GMT -5
Anyone else notice that Ambrose is attacking Vince all through this and he barely says anything about Triple H? Shoutout to those people who said that Trips was just as much of the problem as Vince. Oh yeah, if he thought Triple H was near the level of Vince, or that the company wouldn't be a better place with Trips in charge, he wouldn't have said "I think Vince is the problem." He seems to have no issue with Triple H, and with the line about having wiggle room with Trips, thinks that the company will be in a better place under Trips.
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Post by Viking Hall on May 30, 2019 2:54:56 GMT -5
This explains so much as to why I could never stand Dean Ambrose on my brief views of him on WWE. Vince? 😁 Such as? What does it explain? Ambrose went out and did everything the Vince told him to do. How does this make Ambrose look bad or worse to you? Just curious. I always thought Ambrose looked like he was a bit soft in the head rather than the erratic loose cannon he was billed as. Now I know he was booked to look soft in the head and hated every second of it.
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Post by Yamashita Enforcement Division on May 30, 2019 3:06:16 GMT -5
Oh yeah, if he thought Triple H was near the level of Vince, or that the company wouldn't be a better place with Trips in charge, he wouldn't have said "I think Vince is the problem." He seems to have no issue with Triple H, and with the line about having wiggle room with Trips, thinks that the company will be in a better place under Trips. that line was about how Triple H doesn't deal with Vince's bullshit and any segment with him in it is allowed for more improve than you would usually see because he takes the bullet. Note that he referred to Triple H as just a ruthless businessman as Vince, which is both a compliment and demerit and should be treated as such. He still rallies against the wwe machine a process, with Vince as the sun in the middle of orrery.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 3:44:21 GMT -5
Full transcript.Supposedly, anyway. DAMMIT WHY DID YOU SKIP OUT ON THE OMAHA STEAKS.
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Post by DoubleDare on May 30, 2019 4:31:33 GMT -5
Dean says this is the night he 100% knew he had to leave. I never saw this (maybe fast forwarded it or didnt even see that weeks raw) holy shit this is so bad lol.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 30, 2019 5:16:41 GMT -5
Oh yeah, if he thought Triple H was near the level of Vince, or that the company wouldn't be a better place with Trips in charge, he wouldn't have said "I think Vince is the problem." He seems to have no issue with Triple H, and with the line about having wiggle room with Trips, thinks that the company will be in a better place under Trips. that line was about how Triple H doesn't deal with Vince's bullshit and any segment with him in it is allowed for more improve than you would usually see because he takes the bullet. Note that he referred to Triple H as just a ruthless businessman as Vince, which is both a compliment and demerit and should be treated as such. He still rallies against the wwe machine a process, with Vince as the sun in the middle of orrery. And that's good, Triple H believes that there should be wiggle room, you should be able to improvise.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 30, 2019 5:26:45 GMT -5
Full transcript.Supposedly, anyway. DAMMIT WHY DID YOU SKIP OUT ON THE OMAHA STEAKS. I know the ads are all pre-recorded, but I just love picturing Jericho turning mid-conversation to start rambling about Omaha Steaks or toothbrushes or kitty litter while Jon just stares silently at him until he's done.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 30, 2019 5:32:16 GMT -5
Full transcript.Supposedly, anyway. DAMMIT WHY DID YOU SKIP OUT ON THE OMAHA STEAKS. I know the ads are all pre-recorded, but I just love picturing Jericho turning mid-conversation to start rambling about Omaha Steaks or toothbrushes or kitty litter while Jon just stares silently at him until he's done. And the ad about using your seatbelt is the last one, and it's the shortest. Apparently an ad about saving lives doesn't warrant the time that kitty litter does.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 30, 2019 6:01:41 GMT -5
I do get the feeling of "Hope AEW does well so WWE finally wakes up", but my big hope is that AEW does well in a way that grows the entire wrestling scene, regardless of what WWE does. Not saying people don't want that, too, just that we're at a point where there could, potentially, be many viable places for wrestlers to make a living and put on a great show, and I'm really hopeful they'll grow the entire garden, so to speak.
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Post by clifford on May 30, 2019 6:20:55 GMT -5
Man, I've never heard an interview/podcast that I've related to so much.
A year and a bit ago I left my job- I had been there a long time, I was really good at it, and it was financially very comfortable. But I hated it, and I hated how it had turned me against doing what I enjoyed. I hated the way the place was run, and always had an issue with it, and always knew it could be better if they just listened and took new things on board. I would lay awake in bed in the mornings looking at the ceiling, dreading going in. When Jon said something similar, I could relate so much. That line he had about a cloud lifting off him, man, that was me after I left my old job too. And to keep the parallel going even further, I met my wife in that job, and she still works there.
I am so, so happy for Jon. So many people in this world are in similar positions. I am so happy he got out and is feeling himself again. And I hope everyone else who is feeling the same way at the moment can too.
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Post by Spider2024 on May 30, 2019 6:32:21 GMT -5
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on May 30, 2019 6:34:00 GMT -5
I do get the feeling of "Hope AEW does well so WWE finally wakes up", but my big hope is that AEW does well in a way that grows the entire wrestling scene, regardless of what WWE does. Not saying people don't want that, too, just that we're at a point where there could, potentially, be many viable places for wrestlers to make a living and put on a great show, and I'm really hopeful they'll grow the entire garden, so to speak. Everybody should be wanting that. AEW does well, that means WWE will have to up their game. WWE ups their game, AEW has to up their game, then ROH will have to up their game, then Impact will have to up their game, then on down the line everybody will have to up their game.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on May 30, 2019 7:13:04 GMT -5
Not much in this interview shocked me. WWE currently has one of the most stacked rosters of wrestling talent ever. There’s no way these ratings should logically be dropping. But thanks to outdated creative at the whims of one person where everything is subject to change anyway, the impossible unfortunately becomes possible.
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Post by corndog on May 30, 2019 7:47:28 GMT -5
Absolutely loved the interview and it flew by. Glad to hear after all of the BS he had to deal with in WWE he never lost his passion. I am interested in this movie he is talking about making with Nick Mondo, the video they made together was great(not sure if he did the New Japan video).
As far as AEW overtaking WWE or pushing them back to greatness, not really concerned with that. What I want AEW to do is just keep wrestling going in this direction and having a strong non-WWE wrestling promotion in the US. Also, can't wait for his match with Juice at the BOSJ final. Hopefully he doesn't go too crazy like the old Moxley, I would like to see a mixture of wrestling and brawling. The match I really want to see if him vs Kenny.
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