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Post by Venti on Jun 3, 2019 13:22:31 GMT -5
I normally try not to compare WWE with later day WCW... but this does kinda remind me of stories about guys like Eddie, Jericho, Benoit, Malenko and Saturn all waiting to get the hell out of WCW.
Hell, the whole "quick, give this guy a belt thing" that WWE did with Revival is just like WCW giving Benoit the title because they thought he'd be too much of a mark for the belt to leave.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 20:29:52 GMT -5
So WON said this
2 things.
1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley?
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jun 6, 2019 20:35:45 GMT -5
It's sad that WWE has the roster that it has just to be in a dark age with no end in site.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 6, 2019 20:38:22 GMT -5
So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley? He thinks that he, and he alone can fix all the problems.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 6, 2019 20:38:52 GMT -5
1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing?
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 6, 2019 21:08:21 GMT -5
If Vince knows the whole thing is broken and f***ed and he's happy to jsut keep chugging away with it at the expense of every possible f***ing metric then what's the point where people just stage a coup to try and dethrone him? This is f***ing bonkers.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 6, 2019 21:14:47 GMT -5
If Vince knows the whole thing is broken and f***ed and he's happy to jsut keep chugging away with it at the expense of every possible f***ing metric then what's the point where people just stage a coup to try and dethrone him? This is f***ing bonkers. How do you stage a coup when the dude has 80%+ of the voting shares and all the shares he sells convert to non-voting? I guess you could try and get the SEC to look into if it's legal...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 21:16:16 GMT -5
If only Vince was capable of conceding defeat and realizing this isn't something he's going to be able to fix without giving up A LOT of control. So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley?Only a complete monster would dislike Moxley. I mean I'm just a dude with a keyboard and I've never set foot backstage or anything, but I've never heard of him having beef with anybody. He comes off like such a chill dude.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jun 6, 2019 21:22:43 GMT -5
If Vince knows the whole thing is broken and f***ed and he's happy to jsut keep chugging away with it at the expense of every possible f***ing metric then what's the point where people just stage a coup to try and dethrone him? This is f***ing bonkers. How do you stage a coup when the dude has 80%+ of the voting shares and all the shares he sells convert to non-voting? I guess you could try and get the SEC to look into if it's legal... Hunter and everyone loyal to him puts their foot down and says they're done with this shit until he steps down. Something has to give here and at this rate it's going to be the company before it's Vince himself.
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Jun 6, 2019 21:24:13 GMT -5
How do you stage a coup when the dude has 80%+ of the voting shares and all the shares he sells convert to non-voting? I guess you could try and get the SEC to look into if it's legal... Hunter and everyone loyal to him puts their foot down and says they're done with this shit until he steps down. Something has to give here and at this rate it's going to be the company before it's Vince himself. I guess. I know Alvarez said that individually Shane, Stephanie and Hunter have all tried talking to him about it and he's unwilling to change.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 21:37:47 GMT -5
If only Vince was capable of conceding defeat and realizing this isn't something he's going to be able to fix without giving up A LOT of control. So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley?Only a complete monster would dislike Moxley. I mean I'm just a dude with a keyboard and I've never set foot backstage or anything, but I've never heard of him having beef with anybody. He comes off like such a chill dude. I'm going to assume it's one of those "I wish I was in his spot they don't do shit with me and his girl is hot" guys. Imagine the call that was lmao. "The guy who said he doesn't like Moxley uses the codename "Rolph Bigblur."
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Post by Fade on Jun 6, 2019 22:09:30 GMT -5
So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley? My grandmother, she too, makes nonsensical decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2019 22:15:22 GMT -5
So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley? My grandmother, she too, makes nonsensical decisions. Why doesn't she like him?
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Post by TheDieselTrain on Jun 7, 2019 6:51:38 GMT -5
1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? Rock Concert 1 flashbacks!!!!!! Awesome
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jun 7, 2019 7:14:10 GMT -5
So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley? 1. Letting the avalanche overwhelm him. 2. There's nobody that's liked by absolutely EVERYONE.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jun 7, 2019 7:39:55 GMT -5
So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley?
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Post by Dub H on Jun 7, 2019 7:43:37 GMT -5
Ryback also talked about it a little, I don't remember everything because its 50 minutes.
But basically ,besides confirming everything tha Moxley said.
At the end of his run Vince didnt want Ryback to do the "Feed Me More" chant, in the Kalisto feud by the end the segment sucked because they wanted him to just blankly stare,so he did the chant and the crowd loved,backstage Vince yelled at him calling him stupid,Ryback said he was stupid back.A producer ended up yelled for reasons.
He comment how people say that CM Punk had no reason to bitch about WWE but that no matter your level,you have to face the same bullshit.
Vince goes one day " what people want?Movies!Write about movies."" We need to be trendy!Make some pop culture references!"
Writers keep texting in the morning when you are working out saying the changes of the script. "Doesnt even matter,its gonna change last second anyways".
At the European house shows Ryback addressed the Goldberg chants live and the chants stopped for the rest of the night but Vince still refused to let him address the chants.
When you go off script and get a great reaction,you still get chewed(Which might explain why Ryback was dropped). he was told "If you want promos in this company you need to read these lines verbatum".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 7:58:04 GMT -5
Might mean that Vince realizes that everyone thinks it's a broken system rather than knowing it's broken in his own right... which is an even worse problem.
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Post by Juice on Jun 7, 2019 8:20:27 GMT -5
If only Vince was capable of conceding defeat and realizing this isn't something he's going to be able to fix without giving up A LOT of control. So WON said this 2 things. 1. Vince himself knows it's a broken system? What the f*** is he doing? 2. Who the hell doesn't like Moxley?Only a complete monster would dislike Moxley. I mean I'm just a dude with a keyboard and I've never set foot backstage or anything, but I've never heard of him having beef with anybody. He comes off like such a chill dude. Plenty of reports came out about how Shield kept to themselves for a long time. Roman And Dean being cool with each other Seth wasn’t even close to them at first. Years later that changed, and Roman is also one of the “leaders” in locker room but Mox not talking to women on top of being a loner. I’d get rubbed plenty of people wrong way like punk did.
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Post by Dub H on Jun 7, 2019 8:23:09 GMT -5
If only Vince was capable of conceding defeat and realizing this isn't something he's going to be able to fix without giving up A LOT of control. Only a complete monster would dislike Moxley. I mean I'm just a dude with a keyboard and I've never set foot backstage or anything, but I've never heard of him having beef with anybody. He comes off like such a chill dude. Plenty of reports came out about how Shield kept to themselves for a long time. Roman And Dean being cool with each other Seth wasn’t even close to them at first. Years later that changed, and Roman is also one of the “leaders” in locker room but Mox not talking to women on top of being a loner. I’d get rubbed plenty of people wrong way like punk did. Basically:Dean is an introvert. Society still has problems with introverts. They can be seen as "anti-social" and "rude" when they just want to keep to thenselves.
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