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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 18:41:56 GMT -5
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on May 30, 2019 18:47:27 GMT -5
I say this as a fan of both men and someone who agrees that storyline was fantastic: there’s a snowball’s chance in hell Vince ever considered this as the main event, and he wasn’t wrong for that.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 18:51:00 GMT -5
I mean...it was for the US Title.
And it was the fourth longest match on the card behind AJ/Shane (arguably the best match of the night), Rollins/HHH (you know what this match was) and Taker/Reigns (which closed the night).
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Post by Sparkybob on May 30, 2019 18:51:06 GMT -5
The second match of the card on a long mania sounds better than being on the backend of the card.
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Post by MAD TITAN on May 30, 2019 18:53:12 GMT -5
Jericho sounds like such a mark for himself.
Maybe Vince should've changed his mind in 2002 when he let HHH vs. Jericho main event WrestleMania 18 over Rock vs. Hogan.
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Post by spagett on May 30, 2019 18:55:46 GMT -5
Jericho sounds like such a mark for himself. Maybe Vince should've changed his mind in 2002 when he let HHH vs. Jericho main event WrestleMania 18 over Rock vs. Hogan. We'd have been saved the usual Triple H singles main event Mania match dud if he had changed his mind.
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Post by fw91 on May 30, 2019 19:06:59 GMT -5
So "Main event or bust???"
But anyway, no way this was headlining mania. Maybe the universal title would have been involved but no way would it go on last.
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Post by sportatorium on May 30, 2019 19:28:10 GMT -5
Jericho seems to be creating a narrative for himself so he fits better with AEW and his new crew. He left WWE for a Fozzy tour & I thought Don Callis got him to come to NJPW after. I don’t remember some big falling out with Vince over the Mania match.
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Post by Mozenrath on May 30, 2019 19:30:45 GMT -5
Jericho seems to be creating a narrative for himself so he fits better with AEW and his new crew. He left WWE for a Fozzy tour & I thought Don Callis got him to come to NJPW after. I don’t remember some big falling out with Vince over the Mania match. He did seem unhappy about it at the time, but it wasn't like this big acrimonious thing. Definite bitterness still, though.
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Post by mcstoklasa on May 30, 2019 19:34:40 GMT -5
The Brock Goldberg match was better
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on May 30, 2019 19:37:04 GMT -5
Brock/Goldberg was a better, bigger match anyway.
It can’t be understated how dead the crowd was for that match. A lot of hardcores in the crowd and the supposed “true emotional main event” got nothing but fleeting reactions to the finishers.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 30, 2019 19:40:37 GMT -5
I don't think he's saying there didn't end up being ANY title involved in the match, just that the match might have originally been for the Universal belt, but then became about much less; yes, Jericho was the US champ, but the story was meant to be "Owens turns against Jericho, Jericho seeks revenge by trying to take Owens' title away", flipping that on its head with a midcard title warps things.
I get his point, though: that when you're there for an extended run and put a whole program together that gets over and you're still shuffled away for the part-timers to get the featured spot (not that Jericho was exactly full time anymore, but you know what I mean), it's probably kind of deflating. Not like we haven't heard others with a similar opinion.
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Post by ChitownKnight on May 30, 2019 19:42:29 GMT -5
I love Jericho and always will. Him going to AEW is also HUGE for pro wrestling (due to his connections) and I also think that him and KO should of wrested for the universal title. That being said...
What a dumb f***ing thing to be salty about lmao. Their match had decent focus and was still for the US title. Plus how is he more mad about this than jobbing to Fandango?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on May 30, 2019 19:59:05 GMT -5
I like Jericho and KO way more than Lesnar and Goldberg but that was a dream match and was always gonna be ahead of them.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 30, 2019 20:39:01 GMT -5
I love Jericho and always will. Him going to AEW is also HUGE for pro wrestling (due to his connections) and I also think that him and KO should of wrested for the universal title. That being said... What a dumb f***ing thing to be salty about lmao. Their match had decent focus and was still for the US title. Plus how is he more mad about this than jobbing to Fandango? I think he wanted to put Fandango over. And it's not like he's saying this set him off and what what made him leave the company, reads more like this was the first crack for him that made him rethink things, like he was seeing "huh, give all the work we put into this angle I guess this is as high up as I can go here now" and started to think that meant he had to make a change.
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Post by Dub H on May 30, 2019 20:43:35 GMT -5
I think the biggest point is that Lesnar vs Goldberg didnt need the goddamn title,all it did was take some heat away from Owens.
Plus the match itself was just a short-term gain,nothing was gained from it.Only Goldberg went out of it looking better.He is the only one so far to beat Lesnar clean.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on May 30, 2019 21:00:20 GMT -5
As a person who wasn't a fan of Goldberg as champ, I agree with him. That story was fantastic and I still don't think Goldberg/Lesnar needed the title to make it memorable.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 22:57:52 GMT -5
he probably slams the steering wheel while at a stoplight still thinking about this
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2019 23:05:50 GMT -5
He’s right though.
Lesnar and Goldberg didn’t need the title. KO/Jericho did.
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Post by schma on May 31, 2019 0:51:40 GMT -5
Yeah, I suspect he's more annoyed that the Universal Title was removed from the story than the fact that they weren't main eventing. I suspect even he realizes that wasn't in the cards, good story or no. The Universal Title should never have been near Brock/Goldberg. It had enough heat just from their previous encounter.
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