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Post by Steveweiser on Jun 28, 2019 3:35:05 GMT -5
I watched NXT last night, had fears certain cage match tropes would rear their ugly head, but thankfully they didn't, and Shayna and Io had a very good match with a very creative ending. That moonsault off the top of the cage was stunning!
And then Io turned heel and absolutely DESTROYED poor Candice LeRae. Have a feeling that was supposed to be a turn on Kairi Sane before she got called up. Think whoever beats Shayna (probably Mia Yim now) will go into a hell of a feud with Io, and it will be great.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 28, 2019 5:41:25 GMT -5
When I read about the heel turn in the spoiler thread, I was a bit wary because it hit so many story beats that are normally associated with main roster booking... Babyface talent fails to win title after already losing two shots previously, loses said match in a really fluky way to a talent many people are sick of, and then turns heel because of it (double points here because it involves a foreigner).
But... a lot of experts seem to feel that Shirai is better served as a heel, so all that concern could be unfounded in the end.
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Post by clifford on Jun 28, 2019 6:03:58 GMT -5
The match was great, the finish was cool (even though I audibly groaned seeing Shayna retain AGAIN) and the turn was well done and Io looked absolutely VISCIOUS.
That said though, where does this leave the title picture? (I haven't read the spoilers so I don't know the plans for Takeover Toronto) Shayna/Io in a heel vs. heel match? Candice thrown in for a Triple Threat? Mia Yim inserted into the title picture? It's unpredictable. Well, it is for someone like me who doesn't know the next few weeks of tv.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 28, 2019 6:09:59 GMT -5
It's a cool match, and heel Io will likely be cool, but holy hell, am I kinda over Shayna and world beater NXT women's champions, especially if Shayna gets called up without dropping the damn thing. Paige and Asuka and now Shayna. I get that NXT is the developmental wing, but I'd even settle for Shayna dropping the damn belt in a Triple Threat or something if they call her up, then she can still be unpinned/submitted, and someone still gets an actual f***ing rub for once.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jun 28, 2019 6:30:11 GMT -5
The match was great, the finish was cool (even though I audibly groaned seeing Shayna retain AGAIN) and the turn was well done and Io looked absolutely VISCIOUS. That said though, where does this leave the title picture? (I haven't read the spoilers so I don't know the plans for Takeover Toronto) Shayna/Io in a heel vs. heel match? Candice thrown in for a Triple Threat? Mia Yim inserted into the title picture? It's unpredictable. Well, it is for someone like me who doesn't know the next few weeks of tv. Putting it in spoiler quotes... {Spoiler}Shayna is defending against Mia Yim in Toronto. It wasn't made certain if Candice vs. Io is happening there, but there's speculation that it'll be a longer Takeover with more matches. |
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Post by auph10imitated on Jun 28, 2019 6:38:20 GMT -5
From the littel I have seen from IO in NXT so far, she carries herself well as a badass so hopefully this heel turn will be good for her. I assume she will take the spot as top heel if Baszler gets a call up after Takeover, I can only assume this will happen as shes been there for some time now and its a good chance they could run 4HW vs 4HW at SurSer if Ronda is game. (Unless they hold out for Mania)
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Post by Hypnosis on Jun 28, 2019 9:38:02 GMT -5
It's a cool match, and heel Io will likely be cool, but holy hell, am I kinda over Shayna and world beater NXT women's champions, especially if Shayna gets called up without dropping the damn thing. Paige and Asuka and now Shayna. I get that NXT is the developmental wing, but I'd even settle for Shayna dropping the damn belt in a Triple Threat or something if they call her up, then she can still be unpinned/submitted, and someone still gets an actual f***ing rub for once. At least with Paige and Asuka, they were both faces, even though I think it would have helped if they both lost the NXT Women's Title before their call-ups. Baszler as champion, however, feels like the female Triple H Reign of Terror now. I just hope whenever Dakota Kai returns that she gets a decent run with the title if she's the one who beats Shirai to stop the heel dominance in NXT's Women's division for a change, even though I'm interested in Shirai's new direction. I would have said Toni Storm, but she's still on NXT UK, and already beat Shirai last year in the MYC finals. |
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Post by DDonaires on Jun 28, 2019 12:53:13 GMT -5
I really enjoyed the match as well. I kinda got "Asuka vs. Nikki Cross" vibes from it when they had their Last Woman Standing match. Very violent but well paced match. My only kayfabe complaint is that Regal is kinda of a bad GM for the Women's division lol. Letting the Horsewomen be in the arena after they've interfered in so many matches! lol. But yeah overall great job by all involved
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Post by sportatorium on Jun 28, 2019 14:00:19 GMT -5
A big part of me thought it was comically overbooked, but it seems like a road to a triple threat at the next Takeover. Baszler can drop the belt without getting pinned, Shirai & Candice can go into their feud, & Baszler can attack Becky Lynch at SummerSlam with the aura of never being pinned. For the NXT belt.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2019 16:11:48 GMT -5
As much as I like Candice, I can't help but think about how much better the heel turn would've been had Kairi not been called up.
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Post by sarkerpolseng on Jun 28, 2019 17:31:56 GMT -5
Great match. But...
It was a steel cage match, and at one point, five people were in the ring at the same time, when it was meant to contain just two.
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Post by King Devitt on Jun 28, 2019 18:43:23 GMT -5
Finally.
I've been saying Io has been the arrogant entitled heel the entire time, and they went all in on it.
She's a much better heel in my opinion, and my only detraction is that it wasn't Kairi she turned on, because that would have carried so much more weight to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 2:01:43 GMT -5
Now that Io's blown her shot again, this women's division is looking really boring to me right now. I like Mia Yim, Bianca, and Candice, but I can't get excited about seeing any of those three beat Shayna at the moment.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jun 29, 2019 2:33:57 GMT -5
Honestly I would even settle for Bazler getting called up without losing the title cause I just want to see her without the title.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jun 29, 2019 3:12:06 GMT -5
If you think about it, Io has done nothing but choke since getting into the WWE system. Lost the MYC Final to Toni Storm, then blown a couple of title matches. Kairi would have made more sense to turn on, as she's beaten Toni, won the MYC (beating Shayna in that final), and then briefly winning the title from Shayna. Done everything Io hasn't been able to do. Candice was the best available to fill in, but it doesn't carry the same historical weight.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Jun 29, 2019 8:36:36 GMT -5
If you think about it, Io has done nothing but choke since getting into the WWE system. Lost the MYC Final to Toni Storm, then blown a couple of title matches. Kairi would have made more sense to turn on, as she's beaten Toni, won the MYC (beating Shayna in that final), and then briefly winning the title from Shayna. Done everything Io hasn't been able to do. Candice was the best available to fill in, but it doesn't carry the same historical weight. True, but they really needed Kairi on the main roster so she can have spectacular matches every week on Smackdown! Just like this one:   |
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Jun 29, 2019 10:09:52 GMT -5
its a good chance they could run 4HW vs 4HW at SurSer if Ronda is game. (Unless they hold out for Mania) Has there been any movement at all on the Sasha Banks front? That would seem to be the biggest obstacle in having that match in the near future. |
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Post by 4real on Jun 29, 2019 11:46:24 GMT -5
its a good chance they could run 4HW vs 4HW at SurSer if Ronda is game. (Unless they hold out for Mania) Has there been any movement at all on the Sasha Banks front? That would seem to be the biggest obstacle in having that match in the near future. If Sasha isn’t around who would be the best candidate to replace her? Alexa? Carmella? Asuka? Yeah actually Asuka would probably be the best choice. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2019 18:25:29 GMT -5
Has there been any movement at all on the Sasha Banks front? That would seem to be the biggest obstacle in having that match in the near future. If Sasha isn’t around who would be the best candidate to replace her? Alexa? Carmella? Asuka? Yeah actually Asuka would probably be the best choice. Asuka for sure, I do still want to see her vs. Ronda and Shayna. So it'd be Alexa.  |
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jun 29, 2019 22:12:48 GMT -5
From the littel I have seen from IO in NXT so far, she carries herself well as a badass so hopefully this heel turn will be good for her. I assume she will take the spot as top heel if Baszler gets a call up after Takeover, I can only assume this will happen as shes been there for some time now and its a good chance they could run 4HW vs 4HW at SurSer if Ronda is game. (Unless they hold out for Mania) That would require Sasha to be willing to return. Also for the other two MMA Horsewomen to not be awful. |
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