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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 18, 2023 12:13:10 GMT -5
Besides, there's one very specific reason why Kennedy gets more shit than Feige does, and it has nothing to do with money or subjective quality of the material.
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Post by eJm on Feb 18, 2023 12:31:37 GMT -5
So you're telling me making Billions of dollars for a company doesn't make you successful and we should shut down the whole thing cause Phase 4 was only rated 7 out of 10 stars I mean, clearly. Like, look, I won’t say that some of the Phase 4 stuff (and the amount of stuff) hasn’t suppressed my interest in the MCU in general. I’m probably going to go see GOTG3 and the Avengers movies in the cinema and save the rest for Disney+ and I’m honestly glad they realized they need to not put as much stuff out. But let’s not act like Disney isn’t going to give Feige and Kennedy a lot of rope because of how successful this stuff is. Because they will.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2023 12:43:18 GMT -5
So you're telling me making Billions of dollars for a company doesn't make you successful and we should shut down the whole thing cause Phase 4 was only rated 7 out of 10 stars I mean, clearly. Like, look, I won’t say that some of the Phase 4 stuff (and the amount of stuff) hasn’t suppressed my interest in the MCU in general. I’m probably going to go see GOTG3 and the Avengers movies in the cinema and save the rest for Disney+ and I’m honestly glad they realized they need to not put as much stuff out. But let’s not act like Disney isn’t going to give Feige and Kennedy a lot of rope because of how successful this stuff is. Because they will. In general, I get them putting out so much stuff since D+ was still new and they were making up for lost time with Pandemic. I still have no watched Ms Marvel or She-Hulk. Not because i'm not interested but just a lot came back to back People been trying to find any way to pick holes into the MCU and predict their downfall and it hasn't happened yet. Feige will have to have a few bombs for them to consider any other direction. He rightfully got the success because of the results and until their is a major downturn, don't expect minuscule blamed to be placed on him
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Feb 18, 2023 12:54:05 GMT -5
I like the MCU quite a bit and I completely fell off in the middle of Moon Knight. Not because it was bad, I just fell off and haven't gotten around to resuming. I will eventually, but the MCU doesn't feel like it's must see like it used to.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 18, 2023 13:03:10 GMT -5
I like the MCU quite a bit and I completely fell off in the middle of Moon Knight. Not because it was bad, I just fell off and haven't gotten around to resuming. I will eventually, but the MCU doesn't feel like it's must see like it used to. Kinda the same boat myself. I haven't finished Moon Knight, though mainly because as a Brit I have an intense dislike of obnoxiously fake British accents. Seen the first couple of episode of Ms Marvel, which I liked but came at a time when I had a lot on my plate and I simply haven't had motivation to go back yet. The last MCU movie I saw in theatres was Endgame. I've seen and enjoyed all of the movies to be released since, but getting out to the theatres has not been a priority since they reopened.
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Post by eJm on Feb 18, 2023 13:10:07 GMT -5
I like the MCU quite a bit and I completely fell off in the middle of Moon Knight. Not because it was bad, I just fell off and haven't gotten around to resuming. I will eventually, but the MCU doesn't feel like it's must see like it used to. Kinda the same boat myself. I haven't finished Moon Knight, though mainly because as a Brit I have an intense dislike of obnoxiously fake British accents. Seen the first couple of episode of Ms Marvel, which I liked but came at a time when I had a lot on my plate and I simply haven't had motivation to go back yet. The last MCU movie I saw in theatres was Endgame. I've seen and enjoyed all of the movies to be released since, but getting out to the theatres has not been a priority since they reopened. I saw Doctor Strange 2 in the cinema just because I didn’t want to be spoiled about the cameos (which were cool, I will say) but it also didn’t help I saw it after Everything Everywhere All At Once which…I mean, it’s just better.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 18, 2023 13:37:26 GMT -5
I think the only Phase 4 thing I saw was No Way Home. It's more laziness and pandemic-related stuff than active disinterest, though.
Oh wait, I saw Thor: Love and Thunder, too. That was alright.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 18, 2023 13:42:53 GMT -5
I think the only Phase 4 thing I saw was No Way Home. It's more laziness and pandemic-related stuff than active disinterest, though. Oh wait, I saw Thor: Love and Thunder, too. Yeah, I haven't been to any movie in last few years since the Pandemic and I am always passing by a theater in the City but just was always nervous about it Probably go see one soon enough tho
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Feb 18, 2023 13:50:21 GMT -5
I saw Doctor Strange 2 in the cinema just because I didn’t want to be spoiled about the cameos (which were cool, I will say) but it also didn’t help I saw it after Everything Everywhere All At Once which…I mean, it’s just better. Yeah, there really isn't any comparison, is there? MOM is a fun movie, but EAAO is another level. I'm pretty sure the only movies I've seen in theatres since the pandemic eased off have been Sonic 2 and Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. The former I saw with my son (and will be seeing the Mario movie with him), and the latter I saw at a mostly-empty screen.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 18, 2023 13:52:16 GMT -5
I think the only Phase 4 thing I saw was No Way Home. It's more laziness and pandemic-related stuff than active disinterest, though. Oh wait, I saw Thor: Love and Thunder, too. Yeah, I haven't been to any movie in last few years since the Pandemic and I am always passing by a theater in the City but just was always nervous about it Probably go see one soon enough tho Last time I was in a movie theater was for AEW Revolution last year. Last movie I actually saw in a movie theater was freakin' Star Wars Episode IX.
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Post by schma on Feb 18, 2023 13:57:40 GMT -5
I'm fortunate that I can usually pick showings where there might be a max of 10 people. Black panther was the first one I hadn't seen in the cinema and that was more due to my life being busy.
That said, endgame was always going to be a tough act to follow. It was the culmination of 20 years of plans and provides a natural jumping off point for many. I personally like that some of the stories in phase 4 have been at a much more personal level. I also feel that there's a certain impatience to build to the next Thanos. However, people forget that until phase 3 he was just in the background, hinted at and seen in cameos.
I feel like endgame was a climax and after every climax there's a come down period. We're there and the nice thing is we're getting to see characters that even 10 years I couldn't have imagined on my screen and I love it, even if the quality hasn't been outstanding.
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Post by Mr Mario Mario on Feb 20, 2023 16:18:11 GMT -5
I always figured post Endgame was gonna have an effect of my interest
After investing emotionally in characters and stories over several years and paying off that climax then it was always gonna happen but man my interest is starting to fade severely but tying everything in doesn’t help because it makes it feel like an obligation so that you know who everyone is meant to be and with the films all having the same tone for the most part it feels like you’ve seen it all before. I’ve not watched Wakanda Forever despite it being on Disney plus for a couple of weeks now. I’ll get to it at some point but just not particularly fussed
I’m defo gonna be more selective about what I watch I think. Like that Ironheart series I get the feeling is gonna be like Ms Marvel and be aimed at a younger audience (which is great because it widens the audience and has something for everyone)
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 20, 2023 16:54:01 GMT -5
I still say the biggest problem on top of the pandemic screwing with plans and filming is they seem to be very disjointed in their plans. Phase 1 had one plan…assemble the Avengers. Thanos didn’t even have plans when he was introduced in that movie so it kind of gave them a blueprint for Phases 2 and 3. All roads lead to Thanos with a few new characters and groups getting movies in between.
Phase 4 is just heavily disjointed. It’s a whole mess of wrapping up Endgame storylines and leading them into the Multiverse saga, teasing the Young Avengers, teasing the spooky side of the MCU and setting up Kang while also teasing the debuts of the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Thing is Moon Knight and Young Avengers can be directly tied into the Multiverse Saga and Kang. Instead they’re like…well we currently have no Young Avengers plans and they barely teased Rama Tut in Moon Knight. Then there’s the damn Eternals just sitting there chilling while an Eternal/Deviant hybrid in Thanos is just mass murdering the universe…on the planet they live on.
They need to get back to being streamlined. Get Iron Lad’s happy ass out there and form the Young Avengers because he doesn’t want to be evil like Kang. Fantastic Four…Kang. Loki…Kang. Any other Avengers movies should be the public losing faith in the Avengers after Secret Invasion and it leading to the rise of the Thunderbolts. It needs to end with all teams coming together to deal with the threat of all the Kangs. No more side distractions.
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Post by Cyno on Feb 20, 2023 22:58:34 GMT -5
I still say the biggest problem on top of the pandemic screwing with plans and filming is they seem to be very disjointed in their plans. Phase 1 had one plan…assemble the Avengers. Thanos didn’t even have plans when he was introduced in that movie so it kind of gave them a blueprint for Phases 2 and 3. All roads lead to Thanos with a few new characters and groups getting movies in between. Phase 4 is just heavily disjointed. It’s a whole mess of wrapping up Endgame storylines and leading them into the Multiverse saga, teasing the Young Avengers, teasing the spooky side of the MCU and setting up Kang while also teasing the debuts of the X-Men and Fantastic Four. Thing is Moon Knight and Young Avengers can be directly tied into the Multiverse Saga and Kang. Instead they’re like…well we currently have no Young Avengers plans and they barely teased Rama Tut in Moon Knight. Then there’s the damn Eternals just sitting there chilling while an Eternal/Deviant hybrid in Thanos is just mass murdering the universe…on the planet they live on. They need to get back to being streamlined. Get Iron Lad’s happy ass out there and form the Young Avengers because he doesn’t want to be evil like Kang. Fantastic Four…Kang. Loki…Kang. Any other Avengers movies should be the public losing faith in the Avengers after Secret Invasion and it leading to the rise of the Thunderbolts. It needs to end with all teams coming together to deal with the threat of all the Kangs. No more side distractions. Phase 4 feels like a weird hodgepodge of stuff that would've made more sense being in other phases (like the Black Widow movie), more experimental stuff that had a mixed track record of success, and dealing with the immediate aftermath of Endgame instead of necessarily setting up Phase 5. I guess they're entitled to an off period of movies. Just weird how disjointed it was compared to the well-oiled machine of Phase 2 and 3.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 20, 2023 23:04:44 GMT -5
And I wouldn't even call it an off period
It is a new phase that they are basically starting from the beginning and getting really experimental. Overall what they presented was good and in theory the pandemic was perfect time to experiment
The biggest thing is the two tones. They had to deal with fall out of Endgame while also setting up something new. Kang is now the established big bad so you have that one establishing goal that will tie into almost everything
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Post by schizo on Feb 21, 2023 0:39:57 GMT -5
This whole uncertainty of where is/what happened to old man Cap is freakin bugging me, I hope his whereabouts are finally addressed in the upcoming films, especially in the 4th Cap movie
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Post by Feyrhausen on Feb 21, 2023 7:41:22 GMT -5
This whole uncertainty of where is/what happened to old man Cap is freakin bugging me, I hope his whereabouts are finally addressed in the upcoming films, especially in the 4th Cap movie He is on the moon, duh.
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Post by mrtuesday on Feb 21, 2023 13:18:58 GMT -5
This whole uncertainty of where is/what happened to old man Cap is freakin bugging me, I hope his whereabouts are finally addressed in the upcoming films, especially in the 4th Cap movie It doesn't matter where Old Man Cap is. His story is over. He passed the shield down to Sam. It's Sam's time.
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Post by salz4life on Feb 22, 2023 9:27:28 GMT -5
This whole uncertainty of where is/what happened to old man Cap is freakin bugging me, I hope his whereabouts are finally addressed in the upcoming films, especially in the 4th Cap movie It doesn't matter where Old Man Cap is. His story is over. He passed the shield down to Sam. It's Sam's time. Yeah, I felt it was obvious at the end of Endgame that he was, essentially, retiring. Maybe he comes back for a cameo at some point, but I just assumed he was done.
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Post by Killah Ray on Feb 22, 2023 9:43:53 GMT -5
This whole uncertainty of where is/what happened to old man Cap is freakin bugging me, I hope his whereabouts are finally addressed in the upcoming films, especially in the 4th Cap movie I feel like old man Cap is gonna die in Cap 4 and it’ll be a small funeral scene since the general public thinks he’s dead already (haven’t watched Falcon and Winter Soldier so I might be off on that)
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