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Post by peaches1 on Jul 29, 2024 17:54:12 GMT -5
I honestly have no problem with RDJ playing Doom if they don't try to link the character with Tony Stark. Just put him under a ton of make-up or CGI. If they do overly complicate things and make him some tangent version of Stark from another world it just needlessly complicates things.
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Post by cosmo on Jul 29, 2024 18:25:30 GMT -5
I honestly have no problem with RDJ playing Doom if they don't try to link the character with Tony Stark. Just put him under a ton of make-up or CGI. If they do overly complicate things and make him some tangent version of Stark from another world it just needlessly complicates things.
I wouldn't have even announced it was him. Don't mention his name in any of the advertising or publicity stuff, don't even let anyone watching the movie know it's him until he either unmasks or his name appears in the credits.
But then Marvel needed to get some buzz going for something since Deadpool/Wolverine has been the only MCU movie most people have given a shit about since Endgame.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 29, 2024 18:32:58 GMT -5
As others have noted in this thread, it funny how much the recent MCU reminds one of questionable wrestling booking:
-Company has a long hot streak with a combination of good story telling and names that draw. -The big performers start leaving after the major programs conclude. -Following this the company gets cocky and assumes they already have hype despite the growing lack of direction. -Business starts dropping because the company doesn't know how to elevate the younger names they've got and ongoing stories they have aren't easily understood or engaging. -There's a struggle to get the main audience to watch their new shows with lower card feuds. -Big heel they've been building up starts falling flat with the audience after a surprising loss to a mid-level talent and the person in question gets in legal trouble to the point of termination. -Eventually resort to hiring older talent (and ones from other companies) to get the numbers back up. -Bring in name that was the biggest babyface as the new top heel to get the old audience back.
We just need jokes about the Great Lakes Avengers being hired to kick off the new boom period and we'll be set.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 29, 2024 22:49:51 GMT -5
Guess he got that Oppenheimer Oscar so soon after Endgame and said “f*** it, I’ll take the money.” Hoo boy, did he!
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Post by Citizen Snips on Jul 30, 2024 7:03:51 GMT -5
But then Marvel needed to get some buzz going for something since Deadpool/Wolverine has been the only MCU movie most people have given a shit about since Endgame.
3 of the MCU’s 10 highest grossing films were released after Endgame. No Way Home is the 7th highest grossing film of all time and was released at the height of the pandemic. Wakanda Forever got an acting Oscar nomination and people were pissed when Angela Bassett didn’t win. Yes, they’ve had more than a few big misses since Endgame but claiming it’s been dead since then is just false.
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Post by thechase on Jul 30, 2024 8:23:03 GMT -5
But then Marvel needed to get some buzz going for something since Deadpool/Wolverine has been the only MCU movie most people have given a shit about since Endgame.
3 of the MCU’s 10 highest grossing films were released after Endgame. No Way Home is the 7th highest grossing film of all time and was released at the height of the pandemic. Wakanda Forever got an acting Oscar nomination and people were pissed when Angela Bassett didn’t win. Yes, they’ve had more than a few big misses since Endgame but claiming it’s been dead since then is just false. No Way Home is more of a success for Sony and nostalgia for the Raimi trilogy and the lost potential of Andrew Garfield than an MCU triumph Wakanda Forever isn't really a good movie and only got noticed because Disney knew how to strategically ride the wave of grief for Chadwick, which I thought was a deplorable thing to do. I walked out of the theatre half-way trough that movie due to how up-its-tight-arse it was.
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Post by cosmo on Jul 30, 2024 9:01:19 GMT -5
But then Marvel needed to get some buzz going for something since Deadpool/Wolverine has been the only MCU movie most people have given a shit about since Endgame.
3 of the MCU’s 10 highest grossing films were released after Endgame. No Way Home is the 7th highest grossing film of all time and was released at the height of the pandemic. Wakanda Forever got an acting Oscar nomination and people were pissed when Angela Bassett didn’t win. Yes, they’ve had more than a few big misses since Endgame but claiming it’s been dead since then is just false.
Okay, so I may have misspoke. Maybe a little recency bias on my part too.
And I also won't lie, I kinda forgot Wakanda Forever was a thing, mostly because I have yet to actually see it.
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Post by schma on Jul 30, 2024 10:58:52 GMT -5
3 of the MCU’s 10 highest grossing films were released after Endgame. No Way Home is the 7th highest grossing film of all time and was released at the height of the pandemic. Wakanda Forever got an acting Oscar nomination and people were pissed when Angela Bassett didn’t win. Yes, they’ve had more than a few big misses since Endgame but claiming it’s been dead since then is just false. No Way Home is more of a success for Sony and nostalgia for the Raimi trilogy and the lost potential of Andrew Garfield than an MCU triumph Wakanda Forever isn't really a good movie and only got noticed because Disney knew how to strategically ride the wave of grief for Chadwick, which I thought was a deplorable thing to do. I walked out of the theatre half-way trough that movie due to how up-its-tight-arse it was. Disney could have simply recast Chadwick Boseman and stuck to their original plan and probably would have gotten away with it with minimal pushback. While Wakanda Forever was not a great movie by any means, I hardly think deplorable is the way to frame it how they handled Boseman's death.
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Post by schma on Jul 30, 2024 10:59:36 GMT -5
I've enjoyed more of the post Endgame stuff than most, but even I feel that bringing in RDJ to play Doom and abandoning Kang stinks of desperation.
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Post by thegreatnodnarb on Jul 30, 2024 11:26:05 GMT -5
I'd start the next Avengers movie with the new big bad standing over a bunch of Kang corpses. Give him a cheesy line like "some dynasty" and then cut to opening credits. Since we have RDJ back, I'd still do this opening and have him wink at the camera while he says it. Then they should play the chorus of Alice Cooper's "He's Back (The Man Behind the Mask)".
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 30, 2024 12:20:53 GMT -5
I don’t care if he’s Doom but he needs to be Variant Doom and the future MCU Doom needs to stay unscarred and on the side of the angels throughout Avengers 5 & 6. Since he’s not on that path yet…let Doom be Infamous Iron Man and RDJ is the one to scar him leading to his future villainous path.
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Post by peaches1 on Jul 30, 2024 13:11:44 GMT -5
I honestly have no problem with RDJ playing Doom if they don't try to link the character with Tony Stark. Just put him under a ton of make-up or CGI. If they do overly complicate things and make him some tangent version of Stark from another world it just needlessly complicates things.
I wouldn't have even announced it was him. Don't mention his name in any of the advertising or publicity stuff, don't even let anyone watching the movie know it's him until he either unmasks or his name appears in the credits.
But then Marvel needed to get some buzz going for something since Deadpool/Wolverine has been the only MCU movie most people have given a shit about since Endgame.
I have to believe Robert Downey Jr was given the gig because Marvel knew it would get people to focus on his return (as a highly anticipated character) rather than what necessitated Kang being nixed in the first place.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jul 30, 2024 18:20:11 GMT -5
Looking at how they could have Doom write Kang out by slaughtering his variants or just banishing them…personally I think he needs to miss one that ends up being Iron Lad. Let one escape to help put the finishing touches on the Young Avengers because he knows Doom is coming.
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Jul 31, 2024 2:47:07 GMT -5
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jul 31, 2024 2:57:39 GMT -5
Wow a lot of absolute pieces of shit in those replies. At least the person's quite good at dunking on them.
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Post by bob on Jul 31, 2024 13:32:58 GMT -5
so... I don't have Disney + but so I haven't seen any of the MCU shows....
but I am strongly under the impression that that all Loki did was turn him face while setting up Kang as the big bad for the multiverse saga
literally years of MCU world building wasted because Majors is an asshole
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jul 31, 2024 13:44:42 GMT -5
TMZ did a street interview with Jonathan Majors where he said he was sad about losing the Kang gig and comparing his situation to Robert Downey Jr. You know, the guy who was basically persona non-grata for stuff that mostly affected himself and not involving abusing other people.
No, I’m not going to put it here because nobody should care about what a guy who’s been convicted has to say about losing his gig. But if you need reminding that TMZ are news scum, it’s out there.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 31, 2024 13:45:18 GMT -5
so... I don't have Disney + but so I haven't seen any of the MCU shows.... but I am strongly under the impression that that all Loki did was turn him face while setting up Kang as the big bad for the multiverse saga literally years of MCU world building wasted because Majors is an asshole Loki also more or less ended Kang, too. {Spoiler}Season One set up the premise that if the He Who Remained Kang variant was killed it would leave the multiverse in chaos and set loose millions of Kangs.
Season Two ended with Loki taking He Who Remains' place as the guardian of the multiverse and a throwaway line about the TVA "cleaning up" the Kangs who step out of line, with the exception of the one in Quantumania, which "616-adjacent took care of themselves."
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Post by wildojinx on Jul 31, 2024 15:08:51 GMT -5
Going back to the Captain America movie talk for a second, I hope they somehow give Sam his psychic link with birds. Yeah, it may sound corny, but just imagine how awesome it would be to see him surrounded by an army of falcons for the climatic battle.
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Post by Talent Name on Aug 1, 2024 8:52:07 GMT -5
Going back to the Captain America movie talk for a second, I hope they somehow give Sam his psychic link with birds. Yeah, it may sound corny, but just imagine how awesome it would be to see him surrounded by an army of falcons for the climatic battle. He's not going to be Falcon anymore and that was usually when it came up, I really hope they don't turn Joaquin into the literal Falcon like they did in the comics for a little bit
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