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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 4, 2020 8:07:58 GMT -5
The thing is, though, and not to take it dramatically off topic, if she was going with it from a “non-white people have a negative history involving vaccines”, then there is historical precedent for that and they shouldn’t be confused for anti-vaccers. That video...that wasn’t that. At all. Their is no doubt Disney is livid with her Under no way can she escape these comments along with you liking stuff. It is possibly enough to get her kicked off but considering they have a blank sheet as far as BP2 goes, anything is on the table since presumably they want this franchise to be one of the leads of Disney the next 10 years or so If it was just posting the video, she'd likely get a slap on the wrist. The doubling down and redoubling down arguing with people for several hours afterwards is what's going to piss off Disney most. It's really disappointing, as she's really hit her stride as an actor recently. She could carry the Black Panther franchise for the next decade, but with Disney it's as much PR as it is talent that determines whether they get behind you, and this is going to have the people making those decisions think twice. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 4, 2020 8:11:35 GMT -5
The thing is, though, and not to take it dramatically off topic, if she was going with it from a “non-white people have a negative history involving vaccines”, then there is historical precedent for that and they shouldn’t be confused for anti-vaccers. That video...that wasn’t that. At all. Their is no doubt Disney is livid with her Under no way can she escape these comments along with you liking stuff. It is possibly enough to get her kicked off but considering they have a blank sheet as far as BP2 goes, anything is on the table since presumably they want this franchise to be one of the leads of Disney the next 10 years or so Also doesn’t help Don Cheadle is like “You guys are being mean to her, I have no idea why”, being sent the video constantly and basically being ignorant to it. “Oh, but I don’t want to cancel her or throw her in the bin”. NOBODY IS ASKING YOU TO, LUGHEAD! Like, dude...you wore a “Save Trans Kids” shirt on SNL. Unless you wore that as a performance, something should ring if someone is saying content someone is sharing is transphobic. And then there’s all the other shit stacked on top, all we want you to do is verbally slap her upside the head. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2020 8:15:01 GMT -5
Their is no doubt Disney is livid with her Under no way can she escape these comments along with you liking stuff. It is possibly enough to get her kicked off but considering they have a blank sheet as far as BP2 goes, anything is on the table since presumably they want this franchise to be one of the leads of Disney the next 10 years or so If it was just posting the video, she'd likely get a slap on the wrist. The doubling down and redoubling down arguing with people for several hours afterwards is what's going to piss off Disney most. It's really disappointing, as she's really hit her stride as an actor recently. She could carry the Black Panther franchise for the next decade, but with Disney it's as much PR as it is talent that determines whether they get behind you, and this is going to have the people making those decisions think twice. I believe they def were comfortable with her possibly carrying that torch but after this shit, like I said if she isn't kicked off she will probably be reduced Black Panther is not just a movie. It's an art and now it has the added pressure of carrying on Chadwick legacy. They can't afford f*** ups and malcontents with this. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2020 8:19:11 GMT -5
Their is no doubt Disney is livid with her Under no way can she escape these comments along with you liking stuff. It is possibly enough to get her kicked off but considering they have a blank sheet as far as BP2 goes, anything is on the table since presumably they want this franchise to be one of the leads of Disney the next 10 years or so Also doesn’t help Don Cheadle is like “You guys are being mean to her, I have no idea why”, being sent the video constantly and basically being ignorant to it. “Oh, but I don’t want to cancel her or throw her in the bin”. NOBODY IS ASKING YOU TO, LUGHEAD! Like, dude...you wore a “Save Trans Kids” shirt on SNL. Unless you wore that as a performance, something should ring if someone is saying content someone is sharing is transphobic. And then there’s all the other shit stacked on top, all we want you to do is verbally slap her upside the head. Cheadle should have just minded his f***ing business Condemn her for what she said and move on if you must say anything. She should know better then saying that shit in public like that and she clearly didn't care. She dug herself a deep deep hole and you damn sure don't want to be tied down with her when the shit hits from executives up top |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 4, 2020 8:19:53 GMT -5
I believe they def were comfortable with her possibly carrying that torch but after this shit, like I said if she isn't kicked off she will probably be reduced Black Panther is not just a movie. It's an art and now it has the added pressure of carrying on Chadwick legacy. They can't afford f*** ups and malcontents with this. The Okoye and M'Baku show doesn't sound like a bad idea. Hell, pull some multiverse shenanigans and see if MBJ feels like making a pile of money. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2020 8:26:16 GMT -5
I believe they def were comfortable with her possibly carrying that torch but after this shit, like I said if she isn't kicked off she will probably be reduced Black Panther is not just a movie. It's an art and now it has the added pressure of carrying on Chadwick legacy. They can't afford f*** ups and malcontents with this. The Okoye and M'Baku show doesn't sound like a bad idea. Hell, pull some multiverse shenanigans and see if MBJ feels like making a pile of money. Considering how advanced Wakanda is, they can always pull a rabbit out their ass saying Killmonger didn't really die and he was saved by T'Challa. Tho, there is some merit in doing some multiverse shit where Killmonger was "saved" before he became a maniac tho he still has issues M'Baku without question is getting a big time jump in whatever the next story is. He may not be the Black Panther but whatever his supporting role will be, will tied closely to whoever Black Panther is |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 4, 2020 8:27:41 GMT -5
Cheadle should have just minded his f***ing business Condemn her for what she said and move on if you must say anything. She should know better then saying that shit in public like that and she clearly didn't care. She dug herself a deep deep hole and you damn sure don't want to be tied down with her when the shit hits from executives up top To be fair to him, it does seem like he'll be discussing it with her in private. While it might be satisfying for us to see him lay into her publicly, I do see where he's coming from. No need to make a messy situation blow up further. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2020 8:29:48 GMT -5
Cheadle should have just minded his f***ing business Condemn her for what she said and move on if you must say anything. She should know better then saying that shit in public like that and she clearly didn't care. She dug herself a deep deep hole and you damn sure don't want to be tied down with her when the shit hits from executives up top To be fair to him, it does seem like he'll be discussing it with her in private. While it might be satisfying for us to see him lay into her publicly, I do see where he's coming from. No need to make a messy situation blow up further. Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it should be to the public at all It is more so he put himself out there jumping into it instead of presumably talking to her in private from jump |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 4, 2020 8:30:39 GMT -5
Cheadle should have just minded his f***ing business Condemn her for what she said and move on if you must say anything. She should know better then saying that shit in public like that and she clearly didn't care. She dug herself a deep deep hole and you damn sure don't want to be tied down with her when the shit hits from executives up top To be fair to him, it does seem like he'll be discussing it with her in private. While it might be satisfying for us to see him lay into her publicly, I do see where he's coming from. No need to make a messy situation blow up further. I didn’t see those and I’m glad he at least realized and is going to talk to her. As long as it doesn’t go Gina Carano where Pedro Pascal talked to her and it only seemed to make things worse rather than better. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 4, 2020 8:37:14 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it should be to the public at all It is more so he put himself out there jumping into it instead of presumably talking to her in private from jump Yeah, he screwed up by rallying for her before he had any idea of what she posted, but at least he came around once he was aware. Probably would've been better to let it slide, particularly after the issues caused by Marvel actors rushing to defend Pratt... and he had the benefit of not opening his big yap, so had some plausible deniability. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 4, 2020 8:49:53 GMT -5
As long as it doesn’t go Gina Carano where Pedro Pascal talked to her and it only seemed to make things worse rather than better. The problem there, I think, is Pedro and Gina clearly have absolutely zero respect for each other's positions on the issues she's been ranting about. He's been pretty vocal in his opposition of everything she's supporting and hasn't spared the feelings of those who he disagrees with, to the point where it seems he's been told to tone it down. Wright's not really said anything particularly inflammatory beyond defending the positing of the video, and seems more focused on the chemical makeup of the vaccines rather than any of the other bullshit, so I would hope if Cheadle does speak to her they will find some level of understanding and common ground, even if they disagree. |
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Post by burdette25159 on Dec 4, 2020 9:21:40 GMT -5
I still see Shuri being recast and Black panter 2 giving us the explanation that the new "Shuri" is from an alternate dimension
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Post by Moppy on Dec 4, 2020 10:19:26 GMT -5
"ThEsE dAyS yOu GeT CaNcElLeD jUsT fOr ThInKiNg FoR yOuRsElF".
Oh dear.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 4, 2020 10:24:24 GMT -5
Clearly it's Mbaku's time to shine as new king of Wakanda.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 4, 2020 10:36:00 GMT -5
Clearly it's Mbaku's time to shine as new king of Wakanda. Winston Duke is ready, brother! |
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Post by salz4life on Dec 4, 2020 10:40:49 GMT -5
Did she delete the tweet? In looking now, I just see what looks like an explanation. Look, I understand being a big apprehensive about a new vaccine. Hell, I'm a little.... but to just outright condemn vaccination is just stupid, IMO. I'm not sure what the transphobia is about, but there is no reason for that at all, IMO.
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Post by Tom Turkey on Dec 4, 2020 11:37:39 GMT -5
The transphobia really has no excuse and is horrific timing, coming days after Elliot Page coming out as transgender.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 4, 2020 12:18:52 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it should be to the public at all It is more so he put himself out there jumping into it instead of presumably talking to her in private from jump Yeah, he screwed up by rallying for her before he had any idea of what she posted, but at least he came around once he was aware. Probably would've been better to let it slide, particularly after the issues caused by Marvel actors rushing to defend Pratt... and he had the benefit of not opening his big yap, so had some plausible deniability. My guess is he thought it was another Brie Larson situation where people took something she said massively out of context. Since Don responded to those type of comments too. Then realized that this was ... not that. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 4, 2020 12:20:26 GMT -5
I still see Shuri being recast and Black panter 2 giving us the explanation that the new "Shuri" is from an alternate dimension I mean they don't even really need to mention it. They've blatantly changed actors multiple times in the franchise as it is. |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Dec 4, 2020 12:34:57 GMT -5
I still see Shuri being recast and Black panter 2 giving us the explanation that the new "Shuri" is from an alternate dimension I mean they don't even really need to mention it. They've blatantly changed actors multiple times in the franchise as it is. Rhodey being recast was met in-universe with a “yes, it’s me” moment, so they can do the same with a potential Shuri recast. |
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