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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 15, 2020 9:17:25 GMT -5
Well luckily for you the rumors forever have been that they want to keep Cox, Ritter and Bernthal and recast Rand and Cage. Former Punisher Thomas Jane has been pushing to direct Bernthal in a Punisher movie as well. Which I still don’t think they should replace Cage at all but I get it. The first 3 are a must keep tho I guess considering Mike Colter is likely going back to the CBS show he’s in when they’re able to film again, they wouldn’t be able to get him the time off to be Cage again any time soon. Like, it sucks but it’s either that or you don’t bring him back for a bit longer which I don’t think Marvel want to do with all the shows they’re making now. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Dec 15, 2020 9:27:36 GMT -5
Marvel announces clip show.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 15, 2020 10:12:32 GMT -5
My biggest fear with the MCU going forward is that at some point when Marvel starts ruining out of IPs they can make feature films with, they'll suddenly realize that The Punisher and Heroes for Hire make good film material and decide the best way to go about those is reboot the characters. I'm particularly concerned about Berenthal's Punisher getting replaced and erased. The Netflix Marvel series have no direct connection to the wider MCU and could easily be sacrificed this way. I know the rumors are that Finn Jones is going to be replaced with an east Asian actor, which I'm more than OK with because Jones is a mediocre actor and it makes sense to make the character east Asian, but I hope that doesn't mean the character gets entirely rebooted. I know some people might be annoyed with an unexplained race lift, but I'm personally ok with that. I'd be ok with a corny, handwavy explanation being thrown out too. I'd just rather it not be a reboot, and I'd like Jessica Henwick's Colleen Wing to have a chance of showing back up in particular, Ward and Joy too though its hard to think of a context they'd show up in that isn't a continuation of Iron Fist itself. I mean, I have the least connection to Iron Fist of the Netflix Marvel stuff, so I'd be least upset at an reboot if its isolated to just that character (despite the characters being interlinked making that kinda weird). I'd also not be overly upset with "white Danny Rand still exists/existed, this is a different but similar character". I don't mention Daredevil because of the rumors that's being continued, but the fears do apply to that too until that's confirmed. While I haven't watched the Freeform serieses yet, Runaways and (to a lesser extent) Cloak and Dagger have this fear for me too. I hope against hope that Lyrica Okano's Nico Minoru makes an appearance in Multiverse if Madness somehow. Or, here's a distant dream, A-Force movie anyone? (with no reboot for Nico or... tbh I don't actually care if they reboot Medusa lol). Well luckily for you the rumors forever have been that they want to keep Cox, Ritter and Bernthal and recast Rand and Cage. Former Punisher Thomas Jane has been pushing to direct Bernthal in a Punisher movie as well. Sad about Colter, but I'm guessing its because he's really tied up rather than because they don't like him. Also very key for me is D'Onofrio continuing to play Kingpin. And I'd prefer Wing, Pasty, and Knight don't get recast either, though I wouldn't be as upset about that. Pretty sure most of the other supporting roles either wouldn't come back up unless they continued the actual show or I wouldn't mind them being recast. |
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Post by thechase on Dec 15, 2020 10:19:43 GMT -5
Marvel announces clip show. So basically, every scene they have in Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Infinity War abridged? Could easily call this Wandavision episode zero! |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 15, 2020 11:18:07 GMT -5
While I haven't watched the Freeform serieses yet, Runaways and (to a lesser extent) Cloak and Dagger have this fear for me too. I hope against hope that Lyrica Okano's Nico Minoru makes an appearance in Multiverse if Madness somehow. Or, here's a distant dream, A-Force movie anyone? (with no reboot for Nico or... tbh I don't actually care if they reboot Medusa lol). I'd like to believe Cloak and Dagger have a chance of reappearing (both character's actors have close enough ties to Disney that they might revisit the characters), but with all the balls they already have in the air, that feels like a longshot. As for Runaways... well, they already cared so little about the franchise that they used Tina Minoru (Nico's mother) and the Staff of One in Doctor Strange as a glorified extra/Easter egg, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 15, 2020 11:49:31 GMT -5
Here’s an idea if Marvel is willing to slowly bridge their former TV side and movie side. Secret Invasion...since it’s apparently not going to be on the scale the comics were...why not have the Skrulls impersonate some of our favorite Agents and say they replaced them after the end of AoS Season 7 to begin infiltrating world governments/intelligence agencies?
Season 7 ended with Quake looking like she was a part of SWORD now anyways...maybe she, Kora and Sousa got abducted by Skrulls and replaced...which leads to Mack and May getting replaced. This can lead to Coulson finally making his triumphant MCU return to help rescue his friends. Then a big part of the real storyline can happen and Fury can form his Secret Warriors with Quake and Yo-Yo.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 15, 2020 12:57:12 GMT -5
While I haven't watched the Freeform serieses yet, Runaways and (to a lesser extent) Cloak and Dagger have this fear for me too. I hope against hope that Lyrica Okano's Nico Minoru makes an appearance in Multiverse if Madness somehow. Or, here's a distant dream, A-Force movie anyone? (with no reboot for Nico or... tbh I don't actually care if they reboot Medusa lol). I'd like to believe Cloak and Dagger have a chance of reappearing (both character's actors have close enough ties to Disney that they might revisit the characters), but with all the balls they already have in the air, that feels like a longshot. As for Runaways... well, they already cared so little about the franchise that they used Tina Minoru (Nico's mother) and the Staff of One in Doctor Strange as a glorified extra/Easter egg, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Yeah. The fact that there are already two Tina Minorus in the MCU is... concerning. |
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Post by burdette25159 on Dec 15, 2020 12:59:38 GMT -5
Marvel announces clip show. So basically, every scene they have in Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Infinity War abridged? Could easily call this Wandavision episode zero! In Other words? A backdoor pilot for Wandavision? |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 15, 2020 14:13:32 GMT -5
So to the surprise of no one supposedly WandaVision kicks off a Marvel multiverse trilogy consisting of WandaVision, Spider-Man 3 and Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. There’s been rumors about who’s ultimately responsible and word is... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}...Mephisto will be responsible instead of the originally rumored Nightmare. Is Marvel stupid enough to have Peter cut a deal with the devil to make everyone in the MCU forget his secret identity? God I hope not.
Hopefully they just set it up, Mephisto makes the offer and Peter just punches him in the dick. Let one of the other Peter Parkers show up as Spidey while MCU Peter is present and another Devil in Matt Murdock uses that evidence to show Mysterio was full of crap. Then Wanda and Strange go kick Mephisto’s ass. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 15, 2020 14:29:57 GMT -5
So to the surprise of no one supposedly WandaVision kicks off a Marvel multiverse trilogy consisting of WandaVision, Spider-Man 3 and Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. There’s been rumors about who’s ultimately responsible and word is... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}...Mephisto will be responsible instead of the originally rumored Nightmare. Is Marvel stupid enough to have Peter cut a deal with the devil to make everyone in the MCU forget his secret identity? God I hope not.
Hopefully they just set it up, Mephisto makes the offer and Peter just punches him in the dick. Let one of the other Peter Parkers show up as Spidey while MCU Peter is present and another Devil in Matt Murdock uses that evidence to show Mysterio was full of crap. Then Wanda and Strange go kick Mephisto’s ass. {Spoiler}Another rumour going around is that the villain on Loki is Enchantress, acting as an Emissary for Mephisto. Since Feige has confirmed Loki is also tied to Multiverse of Madness, it seems a sound theory. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 15, 2020 14:31:40 GMT -5
So to the surprise of no one supposedly WandaVision kicks off a Marvel multiverse trilogy consisting of WandaVision, Spider-Man 3 and Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. There’s been rumors about who’s ultimately responsible and word is... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}...Mephisto will be responsible instead of the originally rumored Nightmare. Is Marvel stupid enough to have Peter cut a deal with the devil to make everyone in the MCU forget his secret identity? God I hope not.
Hopefully they just set it up, Mephisto makes the offer and Peter just punches him in the dick. Let one of the other Peter Parkers show up as Spidey while MCU Peter is present and another Devil in Matt Murdock uses that evidence to show Mysterio was full of crap. Then Wanda and Strange go kick Mephisto’s ass. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Another rumour going around is that the villain on Loki is Enchantress, acting as an Emissary for Mephisto. Since Feige has confirmed Loki is also tied to Multiverse of Madness, it seems a sound theory. I can buy that. |
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Post by salz4life on Dec 15, 2020 17:02:54 GMT -5
Which I still don’t think they should replace Cage at all but I get it. The first 3 are a must keep tho I guess considering Mike Colter is likely going back to the CBS show he’s in when they’re able to film again, they wouldn’t be able to get him the time off to be Cage again any time soon. Like, it sucks but it’s either that or you don’t bring him back for a bit longer which I don’t think Marvel want to do with all the shows they’re making now. If you haven't watched the show Colter is in, it is pretty good, IMO. I hate that he wouldn't be able to continue as Cage because I love his portrayal.... but he's doing well in Evil. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Dec 15, 2020 17:28:43 GMT -5
I'd like to believe Cloak and Dagger have a chance of reappearing (both character's actors have close enough ties to Disney that they might revisit the characters), but with all the balls they already have in the air, that feels like a longshot. As for Runaways... well, they already cared so little about the franchise that they used Tina Minoru (Nico's mother) and the Staff of One in Doctor Strange as a glorified extra/Easter egg, so I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. Yeah. The fact that there are already two Tina Minorus in the MCU is... concerning. I mean... Multiple people have played the same character in the MCU before so that's not necessarily a non starter (the fact that the characters are seemingly unrelated however...) the Staff of One being involved really doesn't mean anything... I mean the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak are also differnet in Doctor Strange, and then he uses the more common version of them in Infinity War/Endgame... and the Infinity Guantlet was in THOR. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 17:31:22 GMT -5
Honestly I see nothing wrong at all with the idea of completely ignoring the Netflix shows going forward. They're basically entirely disposable for the story at large and I don't really think we should be locked out of a new attempt at a Punisher movie with a fresh start just because of a not very good TV show.
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Post by Toates Madhackrviper on Dec 15, 2020 17:41:34 GMT -5
Honestly I see nothing wrong at all with the idea of completely ignoring the Netflix shows going forward. They're basically entirely disposable for the story at large and I don't really think we should be locked out of a new attempt at a Punisher movie with a fresh start just because of a not very good TV show. I mean, first of all, I don't think I can accept anyone other than Bernthal as Punisher at this point. So even if they completely ignore the events of the Netflix show and his Daredevil appearance, it would at least have to be the same actor, and preferably acknowledged as the same person. Or even if there's no outright acknowledgement, they never contradict him being the same person. So it remains plausibly true he's the same person. Second of all, I disagree about Netflix Punisher's quality. Lastly, if they wanted to treat them as standalone shows (or a standalone mini-Universe), they ought to have done that from the start. Once it was established as part of the MCU, they kind of committed to those versions of the characters imo. I get saying "quality comes before canon" and I usually agree, but I don't think dropping the Netflix shows would help much with the quality of the MCU. Like there are exceptions, for example I absolutely think they should be able to reboot the Netflix version of Elektra in isolation just because the Netflix version absolutely sucked ass and she's an iconic Marvel character that deserves a better portrayal. Also, I'm admittedly biased because Netflix Marvel is actually my favorite part of the MCU. Like I prefer Daredevil season 1 and Jessica Jones season 1 to any of the MCU movies. So basically, for those of us who care about it, dropping Netflix Marvel would suck. And I don't think keeping Netflix Marvel as being canon would hurt anything for people who don't care. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 15, 2020 18:01:21 GMT -5
Honestly I see nothing wrong at all with the idea of completely ignoring the Netflix shows going forward. They're basically entirely disposable for the story at large and I don't really think we should be locked out of a new attempt at a Punisher movie with a fresh start just because of a not very good TV show. The TV show was decent enough at least the first season and Berenthal should stay as Punisher |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2020 20:50:21 GMT -5
Marvel announces clip show. Sounds like a clip show but I wonder if it's going to be like The Gallery for Marvel movies. Showing scenes and the BTS around it, with storyboards, interviews, etc. |
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Post by salz4life on Dec 16, 2020 12:55:18 GMT -5
So to the surprise of no one supposedly WandaVision kicks off a Marvel multiverse trilogy consisting of WandaVision, Spider-Man 3 and Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. There’s been rumors about who’s ultimately responsible and word is... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}...Mephisto will be responsible instead of the originally rumored Nightmare. Is Marvel stupid enough to have Peter cut a deal with the devil to make everyone in the MCU forget his secret identity? God I hope not.
Hopefully they just set it up, Mephisto makes the offer and Peter just punches him in the dick. Let one of the other Peter Parkers show up as Spidey while MCU Peter is present and another Devil in Matt Murdock uses that evidence to show Mysterio was full of crap. Then Wanda and Strange go kick Mephisto’s ass. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Another rumour going around is that the villain on Loki is Enchantress, acting as an Emissary for Mephisto. Since Feige has confirmed Loki is also tied to Multiverse of Madness, it seems a sound theory. This has a chance for extreme craziness and I'm most definitely in on all of it! |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Dec 16, 2020 21:02:46 GMT -5
So an eagle eyed fan found a Polybius cabinet in the background of the end of the Loki trailer.
Polybius exists in the MCU. Discuss.
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Dec 16, 2020 21:08:14 GMT -5
So an eagle eyed fan found a Polybius cabinet in the background of the end of the Loki trailer. Polybius exists in the MCU. Discuss. Then so does Ashens |
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