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Post by chrom on Aug 31, 2019 15:11:44 GMT -5
If that was Suzuki’s last title match and/or last major non-WK singles contest, he certainly showed up and made it count. At The G1 show in his hometown, it was hinting that he was retiring.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 31, 2019 15:46:08 GMT -5
Not gonna lie I wanted Suzuki to win.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 16:59:57 GMT -5
Finally home, after what was the best live wrestling show I’ve ever been to. The crowd was electric all night, every match delivered and the main event was fantastic. I heard there were a bunch of production issues, which is a huge shame as that show deserved a grand showing. Incredible night!
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Post by chrom on Aug 31, 2019 23:16:16 GMT -5
Not to alarm people but Kenta went to the hospital after his match. He's said on Twitter that he is fine.
He was lopsided during his match with Ishii
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 31, 2019 23:32:01 GMT -5
Not to alarm people but Kenta went to the hospital after his match. He's said on Twitter that he is fine. He was lopsided during his match with Ishii Glad he's fine. Hoping it was just a precaution.
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Post by eJm on Aug 31, 2019 23:33:00 GMT -5
Not to alarm people but Kenta went to the hospital after his match. He's said on Twitter that he is fine. He was lopsided during his match with Ishii That was easy to tell. Another match which should have been at least cut short. But I’m glad he’s ok.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2019 17:15:34 GMT -5
The shows now up on NJPWworld. I must admit, if I’d ordered this on Ppv I’d be pissed. But I didn’t so don’t care!
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Post by chrom on Sept 2, 2019 17:18:13 GMT -5
Over 6100 were in attendance.
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Post by chrom on Sept 2, 2019 17:23:27 GMT -5
Didn't take long to upload to New Japan World.
Now upload the Super J Cup so we can see Ospreay vs Amazing Red
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Post by Cyno on Sept 6, 2019 20:42:41 GMT -5
AXS is showing an hour of Royal Quest tomorrow night at 9PM EST, including the main event of Okada vs Suzuki.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 7, 2019 9:19:33 GMT -5
The shows now up on NJPWworld. I must admit, if I’d ordered this on Ppv I’d be pissed. But I didn’t so don’t care! I did. And I am. I am going to rewatch the whole show soon in a less aggravated mood - the version on Fite is still completely f***ed as far as the feed is concerned for the first hour or more - but I was really disappointed that this show was pricier than All Out and really barely touched it.
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Post by eJm on Sept 7, 2019 9:24:56 GMT -5
The shows now up on NJPWworld. I must admit, if I’d ordered this on Ppv I’d be pissed. But I didn’t so don’t care! I did. And I am. I am going to rewatch the whole show soon in a less aggravated mood - the version on Fite is still completely f***ed as far as the feed is concerned for the first hour or more - but I was really disappointed that this show was pricier than All Out and really barely touched it. I got the impression you were there live which made me worry about how the experience was. But no, that first part on Fite was unbelievable. What a shit show.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 7, 2019 10:02:40 GMT -5
Yeah, it's fine to rely on TV Asahi to record for you when you do big televised shows in Japan, it's fine to rely on AXS for broadcasts from the US, but relying on RevPro, a wrestling company, not a TV network, to allow you to keep your recording guys back home in Tokyo was not at all the best choice, especially not for the price of the show.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 16:53:07 GMT -5
The shows now up on NJPWworld. I must admit, if I’d ordered this on Ppv I’d be pissed. But I didn’t so don’t care! I did. And I am. I am going to rewatch the whole show soon in a less aggravated mood - the version on Fite is still completely f***ed as far as the feed is concerned for the first hour or more - but I was really disappointed that this show was pricier than All Out and really barely touched it. And I totally get that. Given the price, the product from a production side did not deliver at all. Quality wise I loved it, but Inhad the filter of being in the crowd and not having any production issues. Having read about what was happening, it’s pretty shocking. Especially, since they posted the show on NIPW world only a couple of days later.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 7, 2019 17:19:50 GMT -5
I did. And I am. I am going to rewatch the whole show soon in a less aggravated mood - the version on Fite is still completely f***ed as far as the feed is concerned for the first hour or more - but I was really disappointed that this show was pricier than All Out and really barely touched it. And I totally get that. Given the price, the product from a production side did not deliver at all. Quality wise I loved it, but Inhad the filter of being in the crowd and not having any production issues. Having read about what was happening, it’s pretty shocking. Especially, since they posted the show on NIPW world only a couple of days later. The thing is, the production problems were bad, and made me too frustrated to take anything in, which is why I will go back and watch it again - although I will note that once they DID have commentary, the quality of the microphones was f***ing disgraceful. I knew one of them was Kevin Kelly, but only because I was told, not because I could hear the poor bastard. Like, I am fairly unschooled in New Japan, but are their PPV shows usually filled with kinda pointless undercard tag team matches? I might have just chosen an atrocious show as an entry point (I thought it was a good choice, given that it had lots of the NJPW guys I want to see more of on and was in my home country). Also, is everyone in the Bullet Club now? Was that four matches with at least two members of that stable in there? I have watched precisely one New Japan show, which didn't have commentary for 25% of its runtime, and I already never want to hear the words 'Switchblade Jay White' ever again. I will also say, that the show was also kind of unlucky, because KENTA got KTFO only a few minutes into one of the few matches I actually had heard of both comptetitors and wanted to see it on that basis. And Ishii's offense seems to entirely consist of 'punch you in the head in different ways' which is the last thing a freshly concussed man needs. I really, really didn't agree with that match continuing at all, they should have rushed that finish to keep KENTA safe. So, this is why I want to go back and watch it again, because I was so pissed off by how it was all going that I didn't even watch Okada/Suzuki so I still haven't even seen it.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 7, 2019 17:46:15 GMT -5
And I totally get that. Given the price, the product from a production side did not deliver at all. Quality wise I loved it, but Inhad the filter of being in the crowd and not having any production issues. Having read about what was happening, it’s pretty shocking. Especially, since they posted the show on NIPW world only a couple of days later. The thing is, the production problems were bad, and made me too frustrated to take anything in, which is why I will go back and watch it again - although I will note that once they DID have commentary, the quality of the microphones was f***ing disgraceful. I knew one of them was Kevin Kelly, but only because I was told, not because I could hear the poor bastard. Like, I am fairly unschooled in New Japan, but are their PPV shows usually filled with kinda pointless undercard tag team matches? I might have just chosen an atrocious show as an entry point (I thought it was a good choice, given that it had lots of the NJPW guys I want to see more of on and was in my home country). Also, is everyone in the Bullet Club now? Was that four matches with at least two members of that stable in there? I have watched precisely one New Japan show, which didn't have commentary for 25% of its runtime, and I already never want to hear the words 'Switchblade Jay White' ever again. I will also say, that the show was also kind of unlucky, because KENTA got KTFO only a few minutes into one of the few matches I actually had heard of both comptetitors and wanted to see it on that basis. And Ishii's offense seems to entirely consist of 'punch you in the head in different ways' which is the last thing a freshly concussed man needs. I really, really didn't agree with that match continuing at all, they should have rushed that finish to keep KENTA safe. So, this is why I want to go back and watch it again, because I was so pissed off by how it was all going that I didn't even watch Okada/Suzuki so I still haven't even seen it. Most NJPW cards will consist of undercard tag matches involving combinations from the various stables, most often involving some kind of overarching feud. You'll usually start with a Young Lions match (you watch those guys grow from fresh trainees into future stars), maybe some showcases for older legends, and then matches with storyline purposes (e.g. the LIJ vs. Bullet Club tag match revolves around the upcoming Naito vs. White IC title match). The top half of the card then usually consists of title matches, singles matches, etc. The exception to this is usually at shows like Wrestle Kingdom or Dominion, where it's more of a "supercard" feel. This is done so that wrestlers stay fresh over the course of a tour and save themselves for marquee matches, e.g. you'll see Okada team with fellow CHAOS members against a rival faction in the lead up to a big show, mostly so he can save his energy for a huge showing in the main event near the end of that tour. On this particular show you had a match that was clearly a showcase for Ibushi and Robinson, since nobody figured Yujiro and Hikuleo were going to beat them; you had Roppongi 3K open the show because they're amazing at getting a crowd hyped; and then you had the story-driven tag matches before the marquee/title matches. As for Bullet Club, that's just how it often goes when they travel; BC is the company's biggest international brand, so Bullet Club travels when they hit up the US, UK, Australia, mainly the English-speaking world. Also helps that a number of BC members live in the States, so guys like Chase and GoD (and KENTA, who I believe is still technically living in the US right now) actually have an easier time traveling to places like London than their normal trips to Tokyo. And yeah, KENTA getting hurt was clearly an unlucky break; that said, I'd rest easy concerning Ishii's offense, his stuff looks brutal but by most accounts he's one of the safest guys in the industry to be in the ring with. Granted, I don't think there are many ways to safely overcome a guy getting knocked for a loop, but Ishii is one of the best choices out there for a guy who can keep it from being worse.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2019 17:46:35 GMT -5
And I totally get that. Given the price, the product from a production side did not deliver at all. Quality wise I loved it, but Inhad the filter of being in the crowd and not having any production issues. Having read about what was happening, it’s pretty shocking. Especially, since they posted the show on NIPW world only a couple of days later. The thing is, the production problems were bad, and made me too frustrated to take anything in, which is why I will go back and watch it again - although I will note that once they DID have commentary, the quality of the microphones was f***ing disgraceful. I knew one of them was Kevin Kelly, but only because I was told, not because I could hear the poor bastard. Like, I am fairly unschooled in New Japan, but are their PPV shows usually filled with kinda pointless undercard tag team matches? I might have just chosen an atrocious show as an entry point (I thought it was a good choice, given that it had lots of the NJPW guys I want to see more of on and was in my home country). Also, is everyone in the Bullet Club now? Was that four matches with at least two members of that stable in there? I have watched precisely one New Japan show, which didn't have commentary for 25% of its runtime, and I already never want to hear the words 'Switchblade Jay White' ever again. I will also say, that the show was also kind of unlucky, because KENTA got KTFO only a few minutes into one of the few matches I actually had heard of both comptetitors and wanted to see it on that basis. And Ishii's offense seems to entirely consist of 'punch you in the head in different ways' which is the last thing a freshly concussed man needs. I really, really didn't agree with that match continuing at all, they should have rushed that finish to keep KENTA safe. So, this is why I want to go back and watch it again, because I was so pissed off by how it was all going that I didn't even watch Okada/Suzuki so I still haven't even seen it. I think the best answer I can give to that, without getting bogged down in details or histories or anything else, is that I went to this show wanting an authentic NJPW card and I got that in spades. I was completely satisfied and, with a few exceptions, the whole KENTA thing especially, I adored this show. That’s of course ignoring the production issues, but focused just on the product in the ring. What I guess I’m saying is, is that I saw what was for me an authentic NJPW card and was satisfied. Given that a lot of your issues are about what was presented, maybe it’s just not for you. And that’s totally fine! I look at AEW and WWE and they’re just not for me and that’s fine as well. We all have different tastes as fans and we’re lucky enough to have a market that caters to those different tastes. Of course, others will have different views on how accurately this reflects New Japan, that’s just my perspective.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 7, 2019 18:10:06 GMT -5
Thankyou both for taking the time to answer me rather than thinking I am an asshole for not liking New Japan.
I think there is a possibility that the makeup of these shows, if they have that kind of format, is the thing that isn't for me. I have seen quite a few individual singles matches, and seen a lot of New Japan talent appearing elsewhere, and liked the majority of it, which is why I found the show confusing.
I think maybe I should watch the G1 or something, because I just vastly prefer singles matches when it comes to talent I'm unfamiliar with.
I am strongly reassured about Ishii, too. He seemed like he was f***ing awesome and I was just wincing at him seemingly lamping a concussed dude in the face. If he is just that good, I like him even more.
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Post by chrom on Sept 7, 2019 20:08:42 GMT -5
Watching on AXS and they didn't fix the audio issues from it, it sounds like a NWA show from the 80s
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Post by Cyno on Sept 7, 2019 20:48:06 GMT -5
Man, the audio is ass. Especially Kevin Kelly's mic. I can understand the other complaints about the production as they're not up to New Japan's usual standards.
Still, Minoru Suzuki is 51 years old, not even 6 feet tall, and kinda doughy looking. And he still looks tougher than 99% of all professional wrestlers out there and that he can legit murder someone with his bare hands.
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