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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Aug 18, 2019 14:45:03 GMT -5
No a good majority of the documentary is only about the darker moments. They don't brush anything under the rug from what I remember. Although him overdosing that girl on GHB might not have not been included or I just forgot that part. It's part of it. He was awaiting trial regarding it when he was killed. Thank you for the clarification. Like I said it's been a couple years since I've seen it.
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Post by efarns on Aug 18, 2019 17:13:44 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! So, there is a lot that is well known. As much as all these podcasts and shoot interviews re-cover the same topics all the time, I wonder why Chris hasn't gotten more prominent mention over the years.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 18, 2019 17:26:04 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! So, there is a lot that is well known. As much as all these podcasts and shoot interviews re-cover the same topics all the time, I wonder why Chris hasn't gotten more prominent mention over the years. Because in the grander scheme of things, he never made it. By the time we got to the Global years, he was already considered extremely unreliable and washed up. He was a territory guy that never stepped foot in a WWE ring and was a tiny footnote in WCW at the very end of his career at one of WCW's lowest points and given stage on WCW's lowest-seen platform.
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Post by nisidhe on Aug 18, 2019 18:46:33 GMT -5
I remember, in the aftermath of the Benoit tragedy, that stories circulated about Chris Adams being a close friend of Benoit's. But I'm not sure how that might have been, since they were like ships passing in the night in WCW and had very few opportunities otherwise to mingle. He might have been another brick in Benoit's wall, but he can't have been a major one.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 18, 2019 19:07:05 GMT -5
Boy am I glad that the Superkick is associated more with Shawn Michaels and the Young Bucks than Chris Adams among today's fans..
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Post by chazraps on Aug 18, 2019 19:11:26 GMT -5
I've had that 'Gentleman's Choice' documentary on DVD for about two years when I got it from a huge sale for super cheap, never got around to watching it. Now, I think I have to.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 18, 2019 19:21:51 GMT -5
I remember, in the aftermath of the Benoit tragedy, that stories circulated about Chris Adams being a close friend of Benoit's. But I'm not sure how that might have been, since they were like ships passing in the night in WCW and had very few opportunities otherwise to mingle. He might have been another brick in Benoit's wall, but he can't have been a major one. Both were in Japan a good bit in 1994-95. Even though they were in different promotions, I can imagine it happening then.
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Post by efarns on Aug 26, 2019 11:13:34 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! So, there is a lot that is well known. As much as all these podcasts and shoot interviews re-cover the same topics all the time, I wonder why Chris hasn't gotten more prominent mention over the years. Because in the grander scheme of things, he never made it. By the time we got to the Global years, he was already considered extremely unreliable and washed up. He was a territory guy that never stepped foot in a WWE ring and was a tiny footnote in WCW at the very end of his career at one of WCW's lowest points and given stage on WCW's lowest-seen platform. That is surely the answer. But, in The United States, how much different is that from Bruiser Brody? Yes, Brody was considered a draw, but he was never a national star. He never stayed in one place. He became notoriously unreliable. But I've head about his life and death from a lot of different angles. Adams was prominent on national TV at the height of WCCW's run. As the guy who trained Steve Austin, he seems to be as worthy of a few stories as Bruiser Brody. Maybe another reason is that World Class had a smaller roster? I think Cornette said they only had 10 or 12 regulars?
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Post by salz4life on Aug 26, 2019 11:41:17 GMT -5
Thanks everyone! So, there is a lot that is well known. As much as all these podcasts and shoot interviews re-cover the same topics all the time, I wonder why Chris hasn't gotten more prominent mention over the years. Because in the grander scheme of things, he never made it. By the time we got to the Global years, he was already considered extremely unreliable and washed up. He was a territory guy that never stepped foot in a WWE ring and was a tiny footnote in WCW at the very end of his career at one of WCW's lowest points and given stage on WCW's lowest-seen platform. Didn't he come back to WCW for a spell in '97-'98 as, essentially, a JTTS?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 26, 2019 12:33:57 GMT -5
Because in the grander scheme of things, he never made it. By the time we got to the Global years, he was already considered extremely unreliable and washed up. He was a territory guy that never stepped foot in a WWE ring and was a tiny footnote in WCW at the very end of his career at one of WCW's lowest points and given stage on WCW's lowest-seen platform. Didn't he come back to WCW for a spell in '97-'98 as, essentially, a JTTS? That's the WCW run I was referring to. Outside of a couple of appearances for some tag tourneys years before, that's the only run he had there, and he was relegated almost exclusively to Saturday Night for his brief run.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 26, 2019 13:03:13 GMT -5
Because in the grander scheme of things, he never made it. By the time we got to the Global years, he was already considered extremely unreliable and washed up. He was a territory guy that never stepped foot in a WWE ring and was a tiny footnote in WCW at the very end of his career at one of WCW's lowest points and given stage on WCW's lowest-seen platform. That is surely the answer. But, in The United States, how much different is that from Bruiser Brody? Yes, Brody was considered a draw, but he was never a national star. He never stayed in one place. He became notoriously unreliable. But I've head about his life and death from a lot of different angles. Adams was prominent on national TV at the height of WCCW's run. As the guy who trained Steve Austin, he seems to be as worthy of a few stories as Bruiser Brody. Maybe another reason is that World Class had a smaller roster? I think Cornette said they only had 10 or 12 regulars? WCCW never had national TV. They had syndication in some spots outside of Texas, but they never went national. Brody was murdered right at the turning of his popularity at a time when almost all wrestling news was contained to two places: The Apter mags and the Observer. He was still considered an A+ main eventer by the fans wherever he went and was killed at a point when he was still one of the biggest names around. Adams died 15 years after his peak, after toiling for years on low-level indies with no TV, and dying at a point after the emergence of the IWC, when there was a LOT more info and info sources bouncing around.
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Post by sportatorium on Aug 26, 2019 13:09:22 GMT -5
Because in the grander scheme of things, he never made it. By the time we got to the Global years, he was already considered extremely unreliable and washed up. He was a territory guy that never stepped foot in a WWE ring and was a tiny footnote in WCW at the very end of his career at one of WCW's lowest points and given stage on WCW's lowest-seen platform. That is surely the answer. But, in The United States, how much different is that from Bruiser Brody? Yes, Brody was considered a draw, but he was never a national star. He never stayed in one place. He became notoriously unreliable. But I've head about his life and death from a lot of different angles. Adams was prominent on national TV at the height of WCCW's run. As the guy who trained Steve Austin, he seems to be as worthy of a few stories as Bruiser Brody. Maybe another reason is that World Class had a smaller roster? I think Cornette said they only had 10 or 12 regulars? Brody made his own choices and certainly wasn’t someone who abused women or drugs. He didn’t trust promoters and looked out for his own interests as a traveling attraction across territories. He stayed in WCCW as long as he did because he was booking there. I think “unreliable” is a subjective term for Brody comparing him to Chris Adams.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 26, 2019 13:13:38 GMT -5
That is surely the answer. But, in The United States, how much different is that from Bruiser Brody? Yes, Brody was considered a draw, but he was never a national star. He never stayed in one place. He became notoriously unreliable. But I've head about his life and death from a lot of different angles. Adams was prominent on national TV at the height of WCCW's run. As the guy who trained Steve Austin, he seems to be as worthy of a few stories as Bruiser Brody. Maybe another reason is that World Class had a smaller roster? I think Cornette said they only had 10 or 12 regulars? Brody made his own choices and certainly wasn’t someone who abused women or drugs. He didn’t trust promoters and looked out for his own interests as a traveling attraction across territories. He stayed in WCCW as long as he did because he was booking there. I think “unreliable” is a subjective term for Brody comparing him to Chris Adams. Both were extremely unreliable, but in very different ways. Brody purposely tanked a number of high profile matches out of spite, no-showed a metric shit-ton of matches and was not above hospitalizing jobbers that didn't do exactly what he wanted.
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Post by James Fabiano on Aug 26, 2019 13:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by salz4life on Aug 26, 2019 14:05:33 GMT -5
Rod Price looks like Mike Enos. LOL
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Aug 26, 2019 18:12:24 GMT -5
Adams is a weird memory for me, because my older brother, who got me into wrestling was a big fan. I don't know where he saw him, but it was this thing where you had to seek the programming out on some fuzzy station at the top of the dial instead of just tuning in WWF Saturday mornings on the local NBC affiliate. Having to dig and then having Adams be his favorite wrestler there made it feel more personal.
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Post by Hypnosis on Aug 26, 2019 18:23:13 GMT -5
Rod Price looks like Mike Enos. LOL The Weaverly Brother.
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Post by chronocross on Aug 26, 2019 18:30:10 GMT -5
After listening to the Lapsed Fan podcast, I was just stunned at how much of a lowlife he was. I never saw him in his prime during the WCCW days, only when he came to WCW in 97 for a spell.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Aug 27, 2019 0:55:22 GMT -5
That is surely the answer. But, in The United States, how much different is that from Bruiser Brody? Yes, Brody was considered a draw, but he was never a national star. He never stayed in one place. He became notoriously unreliable. But I've head about his life and death from a lot of different angles. Adams was prominent on national TV at the height of WCCW's run. As the guy who trained Steve Austin, he seems to be as worthy of a few stories as Bruiser Brody. Maybe another reason is that World Class had a smaller roster? I think Cornette said they only had 10 or 12 regulars? WCCW never had national TV. They had syndication in some spots outside of Texas, but they never went national. Wasn't WCCW on CBN for a bit. If so,and I got foggy memories of them being on CBN before it became the Family channel,they were national. Seen,never confirmed,reports that WCCW was almost neck and neck with WWF at the time with how many markets they reached with Syndication. I know they aired in the Northeast area thru syndication. Hell I got WCCW on a channel out of Alabama and that was the syndicated show. Chris Adams seems to be a guy that if you grew up in Texas or the south you knew. But if you didn't he wasn't that well known.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Aug 27, 2019 1:30:40 GMT -5
WCCW never had national TV. They had syndication in some spots outside of Texas, but they never went national. Wasn't WCCW on CBN for a bit. If so,and I got foggy memories of them being on CBN before it became the Family channel,they were national. Seen,never confirmed,reports that WCCW was almost neck and neck with WWF at the time with how many markets they reached with Syndication. I know they aired in the Northeast area thru syndication. Hell I got WCCW on a channel out of Alabama and that was the syndicated show. Chris Adams seems to be a guy that if you grew up in Texas or the south you knew. But if you didn't he wasn't that well known. They had a show on CBN for a time, yes, but the promotion never expanded past its territory. Fritz refused to tour any of the places the show was getting good ratings. Thanks to a CBN side deal, the show was even being aired in Israel and Lebanon as well. Regardless of where it aired, Fritz operated on a strictly local level. Also keep in mind we're talking 1982-era cable TV. It was not a common thing to find in the household yet - most of the homes that had it that watched it were in the bible belt. I can see where it can argued that it was national, but I personally do not consider it so. Adams had good runs in LA and Portland before heading to World Class. It was all downhill after that.
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