Matrix 4 is coming

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

Aug 21, 2019 22:25:37 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

I'm assuming they could do some rigmarole to explain how Neo is back, something about the machines kept him in cold storage until the time was right, etc. But I have no idea how Trinity could be back. She isn't even mostly dead, just all dead.

In the Matrix Online, in which the Wachowskis had input on the story and have declared canon, Trinity plays a big post-death role:

Despite having "died" during the course of the third film, Trinity made a return to the series in the official continuation, The Matrix Online. Taking on a major role in the game's final chapters it was revealed both she and Neo were actually the culmination of decades of Machine research into translating human DNA perfectly into Machine code, allowing them to interface directly with technology without the need for simulated interfaces.

Originally developed by the Oracle, this program was called The Biological Interface Program and was strongly sought after by the Oligarchy as a means to transfer their digital minds to physical bodies instead of the mechanical androids they had developed.

Without a physical form (the Machines recovered her program from her dying body) Trinity takes the appearance of a floating figure made of golden code within The Matrix. Initially distraught with her condition (confusion, anger, and sadness being the prominent emotions expressed during her awakening after being freed from the Oligarch Network), she eventually finds solace in the fact her existence is the key to finally rebooting the Matrix and erasing Oligarch override control once and for all.

She ultimately meets her end in the Source of The Matrix, merging with a human inside the core of the Machine code base itself, combining the three core groups; Man, Machine and Program. This initializes the final reboot sequence, removing the Oligarch control and allowing the Machines to finally exist without fear of cruel masters. Although it is unclear from the outlines Ben Chamberlain released prior to the game's closure, this conclusion likely sees the creation of a new truce between Zion and The Machines and is the basis for the new Matrix created around the concept of human thought control.

I wouldn't be shocked if Matrix 4 recycles some of the stuff from Matrix Online.

[Allie Kitsune]

Aug 21, 2019 23:09:56 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

Aug 21, 2019 22:25:37 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

I'm assuming they could do some rigmarole to explain how Neo is back, something about the machines kept him in cold storage until the time was right, etc. But I have no idea how Trinity could be back. She isn't even mostly dead, just all dead.

In the Matrix Online, in which the Wachowskis had input on the story and have declared canon, Trinity plays a big post-death role:

Despite having "died" during the course of the third film, Trinity made a return to the series in the official continuation, The Matrix Online. Taking on a major role in the game's final chapters it was revealed both she and Neo were actually the culmination of decades of Machine research into translating human DNA perfectly into Machine code, allowing them to interface directly with technology without the need for simulated interfaces.

Originally developed by the Oracle, this program was called The Biological Interface Program and was strongly sought after by the Oligarchy as a means to transfer their digital minds to physical bodies instead of the mechanical androids they had developed.

Without a physical form (the Machines recovered her program from her dying body) Trinity takes the appearance of a floating figure made of golden code within The Matrix. Initially distraught with her condition (confusion, anger, and sadness being the prominent emotions expressed during her awakening after being freed from the Oligarch Network), she eventually finds solace in the fact her existence is the key to finally rebooting the Matrix and erasing Oligarch override control once and for all.

She ultimately meets her end in the Source of The Matrix, merging with a human inside the core of the Machine code base itself, combining the three core groups; Man, Machine and Program. This initializes the final reboot sequence, removing the Oligarch control and allowing the Machines to finally exist without fear of cruel masters. Although it is unclear from the outlines Ben Chamberlain released prior to the game's closure, this conclusion likely sees the creation of a new truce between Zion and The Machines and is the basis for the new Matrix created around the concept of human thought control.

I wouldn't be shocked if Matrix 4 recycles some of the stuff from Matrix Online.

That just kind of makes it sound like there was a never a 'real' world to begin with, ugh.

[thechase]

Yahya Abdul-Mateen II has been cast in a leading role

variety.com/2019/film/news/matrix-4-yahya-abdul-mateen-ii-1203364314/

[Hit Girl]

The first film never needed sequels.

[salz4life]

Oct 9, 2019 13:10:10 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

The first film never needed sequels.

That's what everyone has told me and is kind of why I never have made the time to watch the sequels. I remember I wasn't at all interested in the movie until some of my friends on my floor in college asked me to go and I had nothing else going on at the time so I went. I absolutely loved it, but with the sequels, I ran into the same situation where I wasn't really interested and never saw them.

[Hit Girl]

I watched Matrix Reloaded, and hated it so much I have never watched Matrix Revolutions on general principal. I was incensed at how Zion was depicted. It was basically a giant rave club with people spouting pseudo-philosophical bollocks. All it did was confirm to me that Cypher was right, and that life inside the Matrix would be preferable to the shitty real world.

[thechase]

collider.com/matrix-4-jonathan-groff-cast/

Jonathan Groff cast

[Chainsaw]

The one thing I want from this movie is that they find a way to bring back Switch and do justice by them finally.

[BRV]

Oct 9, 2019 13:10:10 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

The first film never needed sequels.

The first film felt revolutionary at the time, but it does not hold up well to history. It feels very much like a time capsule of the late-1990s, with the clunky explanations of the Internet, the techno and nu metal soundtrack, and the special effects which - again, revolutionary for the time - are kind of dated now. But it was at least a good movie. The second and especially the third (with its hamfisted Christ allegory) both felt like straight-up cash grabs and failed efforts to recreate the magic about what made the first movie so special and unique.

I feel like a new "Matrix" starring Keanu Reeves in 2020 will be little more than a dark, sci-fi "John Wick," with an aging but unkillable Keanu just laying waste to henchmen left and right.

[YAKMAN is ICHIBAN]

Dec 10, 2019 14:44:40 GMT -5 BRV said:

Oct 9, 2019 13:10:10 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

The first film never needed sequels.

The first film felt revolutionary at the time, but it does not hold up well to history. It feels very much like a time capsule of the late-1990s, with the clunky explanations of the Internet, the techno and nu metal soundtrack, and the special effects which - again, revolutionary for the time - are kind of dated now. But it was at least a good movie. The second and especially the third (with its hamfisted Christ allegory) both felt like straight-up cash grabs and failed efforts to recreate the magic about what made the first movie so special and unique.

I feel like a new "Matrix" starring Keanu Reeves in 2020 will be little more than a dark, sci-fi "John Wick," with an aging but unkillable Keanu just laying waste to henchmen left and right.

Well, I'm sold.

[Fade is a CodyCryBaby]

Dec 10, 2019 14:44:40 GMT -5 BRV said:

Oct 9, 2019 13:10:10 GMT -5 Hit Girl said:

The first film never needed sequels.

The first film felt revolutionary at the time, but it does not hold up well to history. It feels very much like a time capsule of the late-1990s, with the clunky explanations of the Internet, the techno and nu metal soundtrack, and the special effects which - again, revolutionary for the time - are kind of dated now. But it was at least a good movie. The second and especially the third (with its hamfisted Christ allegory) both felt like straight-up cash grabs and failed efforts to recreate the magic about what made the first movie so special and unique..

Agreed. Still hopeful but I can’t deny I got the feeling it’ll be more like 2 and 3 than 1. The first Matrix was lightning in a bottle.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

It will open on May 21, 2021... the same day as John Wick 4.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/flash-matrix-4-get-release-dates-1261939

[Fundertaker]

Dec 11, 2019 15:37:08 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

It will open on May 21, 2021... the same day as John Wick 4.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/flash-matrix-4-get-release-dates-1261939

I smell Double Feature!

[burdette25159]

Dec 11, 2019 15:37:08 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

It will open on May 21, 2021... the same day as John Wick 4.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/flash-matrix-4-get-release-dates-1261939

One of them is going to move I guess

[eJm]

Dec 11, 2019 15:37:08 GMT -5 Mighty Attack Tribble said:

It will open on May 21, 2021... the same day as John Wick 4.

www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/flash-matrix-4-get-release-dates-1261939

One of them is probably going to move but GODDAMN I don’t want either to move.

[riseofsetian1981]

I actually hope neither of them move. It's been a long time since we've had two monster films like this come out on the same day. Being an employee at a movie theatre I relish these types of release dates. Studios need to be more competitive in their release dates and not be afraid of one another.

[Ultimo Gallos]

It is times like this that I realize I am one of the few people that found all three Matrix movies to be over-rated crap. They just took some ideas from Philip K Dick and William Gibson,then took stuff that Hong Kong Cinema had been doing for years and somehow this was a huge hit.

[Mighty Attack Tribble]

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Dec 12, 2019 1:33:42 GMT -5 riseofsetian1981 said:

I actually hope neither of them move. It's been a long time since we've had two monster films like this come out on the same day. Being an employee at a movie theatre I relish these types of release dates. Studios need to be more competitive in their release dates and not be afraid of one another.

I mean... What incentive is there in doing that? That's just a good way to cut into both movies' potential success. There are 52 weekends a year, just find one that isn't occupied and take it.

[CMPunkyBrewster]

Aug 20, 2019 22:17:32 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I feel like this is going to be yet another sequel that comes and drops with a thud. I feel like Reloaded pretty much killed the interest in the franchise given Revolutions flopped and there really hasn't been some great demand for more of it in the years since despite constant rumors of it.

I don't care about these movies at all, but none of them flopped by any stretch.

Reloaded was the highest performing at the box office, and Revolutions did almost as much as the original. Even Revolutions brought in almost 3 times it's budget.

The quality of the flicks is up to the consumer, but all of them performed well at the box office.