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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 28, 2019 5:23:11 GMT -5
Impact aren't using him now, but they were when this fiasco started. Had they caved, they'd set the precedent that talent can hold them up for money or declare they want out mid push and they'd just roll over, even though they have a binding contract.
It's a crappy situation, but one Kross set the ball rolling on so can't be portrayed as the victim. Impact need to end it soon, just get him off the books and let him live with the fallout while it's fresh in promoter's minds. The longer it goes on the more people forget how it started.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 29, 2019 6:49:58 GMT -5
Impact aren't using him now, but they were when this fiasco started. Had they caved, they'd set the precedent that talent can hold them up for money or declare they want out mid push and they'd just roll over, even though they have a binding contract. It's a crappy situation, but one Kross set the ball rolling on so can't be portrayed as the victim. Impact need to end it soon, just get him off the books and let him live with the fallout while it's fresh in promoter's minds. The longer it goes on the more people forget how it started. I doubt people will outright forget, but the longer it goes on, the less it matters how it started. Any argument made that it's a proportionate response gets weaker and weaker the longer it goes on, because the punishment just keeps on dragging. It's not free to pay the guy to stay home, and it really just sours the image Impact was trying for when they put to rest the fight with the Hardyz over the Broken universe. They had a legal argument there, too, but they abandoned it because it wasn't worth the fight. They already let him cool for months, making him less useful or valuable for them if they keep him, so they did plenty to dissuade anyone else from doing this. They're running out of reasons to keep dragging their asses on it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 29, 2019 8:33:04 GMT -5
Impact aren't using him now, but they were when this fiasco started. Had they caved, they'd set the precedent that talent can hold them up for money or declare they want out mid push and they'd just roll over, even though they have a binding contract. It's a crappy situation, but one Kross set the ball rolling on so can't be portrayed as the victim. Impact need to end it soon, just get him off the books and let him live with the fallout while it's fresh in promoter's minds. The longer it goes on the more people forget how it started. I doubt people will outright forget, but the longer it goes on, the less it matters how it started. Any argument made that it's a proportionate response gets weaker and weaker the longer it goes on, because the punishment just keeps on dragging. It's not free to pay the guy to stay home, and it really just sours the image Impact was trying for when they put to rest the fight with the Hardyz over the Broken universe. They had a legal argument there, too, but they abandoned it because it wasn't worth the fight. They already let him cool for months, making him less useful or valuable for them if they keep him, so they did plenty to dissuade anyone else from doing this. They're running out of reasons to keep dragging their asses on it. It's just dumb. All you had to do was tell Kross listen, you're coming to work and he would had no choice but to show up They are dragging this. If a guy ask for his release and you say no but then make him sit home, you're very badly making an example out of him when you did not have to. Add on to that you move his shirts to clearance which was also petty. If this was purely a punishment you don't do that. Impact is hurting their own standing with this and as I said before I don't think this bodes well for them for anyone who would consider them. Kross was wrong for making it public but they still basically proved him right by letting go of Scarlett. So why couldn't you do the same for him and if not why not negotiate in good faith. Impact losses their bigger standing in this with how they have reacted
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 29, 2019 10:33:19 GMT -5
And hell, if he says "No I won't come in" then f***ing sue him for breach of contract or some shit, because at that point he is unambiguously the bad guy and nobody can even fault the company. This isn't the smart way to do anything and what's it helping? People sticking up for it because somehow the idea it's something they can do means they're in the right for doing it aren't going to give the company more money just because they're holding a guy by the balls, and for people who see this as a horrid dick move, it's going against the work they've had to do in rebuilding a reputation for not being awful and screwing people over. They've chosen the worst possible response to this situation of all the options they had.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 29, 2019 11:45:18 GMT -5
And hell, if he says "No I won't come in" then f***ing sue him for breach of contract or some shit, because at that point he is unambiguously the bad guy and nobody can even fault the company. This isn't the smart way to do anything and what's it helping? People sticking up for it because somehow the idea it's something they can do means they're in the right for doing it aren't going to give the company more money just because they're holding a guy by the balls, and for people who see this as a horrid dick move, it's going against the work they've had to do in rebuilding a reputation for not being awful and screwing people over. They've chosen the worst possible response to this situation of all the options they had. Yea, like I really don't understand Impact is in the right sentiment. They had legal ground and was in their right to say no about giving him more money. That's where it should have ended, if Kross threw a sting over that and stopped working then the pressure would been on him for taking his ball and going home But yet, Impact said no to him and is still punishing him to make an example out of him. They had better options but went left for no reason other than to shut anyone else up who would make this complaint
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