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Post by hulksmash87 on Aug 29, 2019 20:29:55 GMT -5
Had warrior stayed past SummerSlam 91 we could have had possibly the best survivor series team ever warrior,Hogan, Savage and Piper vs taker Roberts flair possibly slaughter if they hold off on his face turn. Do you think this would have been a possible plan had he stayed.
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Post by CeilingFan on Aug 29, 2019 21:35:38 GMT -5
Had warrior stayed past SummerSlam 91 we could have had possibly the best survivor series team ever warrior,Hogan, Savage and Piper vs taker Roberts flair possibly slaughter if they hold off on his face turn. Do you think this would have been a possible plan had he stayed. What happens with Sid Justice? |
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 29, 2019 21:49:07 GMT -5
I think the decision had likely already been made to have one big singles match at that show, so one of the people from each team would have likely been against each other in a normal match. As they obviously weren’t ready for Hogan to drop the title to Flair, they needed the whole Hogan/Taker feud to free up the belt for Flair, so they could then have their planned match for WM8 between Hogan and Flair. But as we all know, that didn’t happen.
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Post by petef3 on Aug 29, 2019 23:27:43 GMT -5
Had warrior stayed past SummerSlam 91 we could have had possibly the best survivor series team ever warrior,Hogan, Savage and Piper vs taker Roberts flair possibly slaughter if they hold off on his face turn. Do you think this would have been a possible plan had he stayed. Don't book a match if you don't have finishes. How are you going to eliminate all those guys? There are only so many cheap DQs and double-countouts to go around. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 30, 2019 0:19:55 GMT -5
If Warrior stayed he was going into a program with Jake and Randy was possibly going into one with DiBiase. So you have to factor that into things.
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Post by XaviersSS2015hair on Aug 30, 2019 2:39:41 GMT -5
Had warrior stayed past SummerSlam 91 we could have had possibly the best survivor series team ever warrior,Hogan, Savage and Piper vs taker Roberts flair possibly slaughter if they hold off on his face turn. Do you think this would have been a possible plan had he stayed. Don't book a match if you don't have finishes. How are you going to eliminate all those guys? There are only so many cheap DQs and double-countouts to go around. Something similar happened at that SS anyway. Team Flair beat Team Piper because EVERYONE got dq'd except Flair. It was incredibly lame, lazy booking. |
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Post by petef3 on Aug 30, 2019 3:45:37 GMT -5
Regardless, the WWF never crammed all of its top stars and draws into one Survivor Series match like that.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Aug 30, 2019 9:06:41 GMT -5
I imagine it would’ve been Team Warrior vs. Team Jake with the exact same participants on both sides.
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Post by Aceorton on Aug 30, 2019 12:28:37 GMT -5
Regardless, the WWF never crammed all of its top stars and draws into one Survivor Series match like that. This. Except for the Ultimate Survival thing they did in 1990, Survivor Series elimination matches were always split to feature top guys as captains with their own teams of middle- and lower-card guys. Think of the egos involved. Imagine Hogan, Savage, Warrior or Piper being told they're getting eliminated first. |
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Post by auph10imitated on Aug 30, 2019 12:33:35 GMT -5
I think Taker vs Hogan was already on the radar before Summerslam which is why they didn’t put Taker in the SS match and why Warrior was being moved to Jake.
They wanted Savage/Dibiase (likely to tie up the Savage/Sherri arc) But Savage wasn’t sold and was happy in the booth, when Warrior bailed I imagine Vince begged Savage back to fill the Jake spot which was higher on the card than Dibase
So if Warrior stayed I doubt Savage would have came back so soon.
I loved this period because the top of the card was teaming with A listers and you could have done just about any top line combination
However if they went with the 89/90 format they would have had Hogan, Justice and Piper and Warrior captain thier own seperate teams
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Post by johnnyk9 on Aug 30, 2019 16:04:27 GMT -5
Warrior captaining Bossman and LOD would’ve been sweet
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Post by flakeymcgill on Aug 31, 2019 10:33:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure if Warrior vs Jake intended to be anything other than a house show feud, aided by TV vignettes as WWE liked to do at the time. Remember very few issues were ever settled on television back then, it was mostly: if you want to see the hero get revenge then buy a ticket. We also had Warrior in the match with Hogan vs Slaughter et al. It'd be weird to have that on TV (well, PPV) and then have him revert back to the Jake feud.
Besides which Jake's feud with Savage was definitely pre-planned even before anyone knew that Warrior would hold Vince up on the night at the Garden for money.
With that in mind: what about Flair?
Piper always seemed the odd choice for Flair's first beef, yes they have history but if anything that'd have made Vince less keen on doing it. At the time Piper hadn't really been active in the ring on television for a long, long time and had become a commentator pretty much in Vince's eyes probably like Savage post-1992. I'm not sure if Vince's first choice to feud with Flair in probably the most high-profile wrestling acquisition to date would be Piper, a man he already decided was better suited to commentary. And Piper was active at the time in the ring just not on TV. Vince kept Piper out of the ring as far as the television audience was concerned. I'm not sure if that's the guy Vince would pick to be the first feud for such a high-profile signing.
Former WWF champion? Second hottest baby face in the company? Yeah I could see Vince wanting that guy to be the first roadblock to Flair on his way to Hogan at Wrestlemania all those months later. Looks to me as if Piper possibly was a replacement for someone else. If you have Flair coming in and you don't want to do Flair vs Hogan until Mania - why would you not go with Flair vs Warrior who, at the time, whilst over, was never going to be Vince's golden boy again
You could do Team Flair vs Team Warrior at the Survivor Series and still have Flair interfered in the WWE title match later on that night as he did.
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Post by petef3 on Aug 31, 2019 23:19:43 GMT -5
Jake's feud with Savage didn't seem pre-planned to me. Originally they were setting up Sherri & DiBiase crashing the wedding, and then when they went with Jake & Undertaker doing it, the program was to be Jake vs. Sid, with Sid basically getting Warrior's spot. Savage only agreed to sign a new contract and come back when Sid went out, too.
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