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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 10, 2019 15:23:07 GMT -5
I liked him.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Sept 10, 2019 15:34:40 GMT -5
Which is why guys preferred WWE/F way of payment. In WCW you get that guaranteed money so you don't have to do the extra work but in WWE you were paid based upon where you were on the card and you always were in position to make more money if you got to the main event Curt Henning doesn't have to worry about the main event because he's paid. Meanwhile, Big Show is on multiple main events and he wants to be paid like one but Eric threw a fit Yeah, WCW, some guys obviously made way more money, but it did hurt drive sometime. It also contributed to WCW's perpetual house show woes, because some guys would skip them often because it wasn't really going to make a difference to your pay, so if you don't do it often enough to just get shitcanned, what can they really do to punish you for it? Yeah, and that’s the big problem in motivation. If you get paid X amount of dollars no matter what then why would you care about main events, titles, etc. the drawing power doesn’t effect your pockets because you’re paid. That was a mistake on Bischoff part because I believe when Jericho contract came up and he wanted more money based upon his time bischoff wasn’t trying to pay him crazy
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 10, 2019 15:52:22 GMT -5
Foley was also upset about Mero's pay because right in the middle of Foley and Undertaker having their big feud, Undertaker wrestled Mero in a match that was apparently pretty bad. Foley was actually so mad about it, when Jim Cornette told him that the company wanted Mero vs. Mankind at WrestleMania 13, Foley said he'd rather just get left off the show.I honestly like Mick Foley. I really do. He seems like a really good dude for the most part. But this is such petty bullshit. Could he have not pulled Marc Mero aside and said, "Hey man, we're penciled in to be working Mania together. We need to work on some things so we have a good match and maybe we can get something going where we both draw some money and make more." Yeah, for a guy who claimed he could and would work with anyone and put them over... this was pretty dickish.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Sept 10, 2019 16:11:40 GMT -5
I honestly like Mick Foley. I really do. He seems like a really good dude for the most part. But this is such petty bullshit. Could he have not pulled Marc Mero aside and said, "Hey man, we're penciled in to be working Mania together. We need to work on some things so we have a good match and maybe we can get something going where we both draw some money and make more." Yeah, for a guy who claimed he could and would work with anyone and put them over... this was pretty dickish. Yeah, the image Foley managed to project for the better part of two decades vs how he actually operated are a little different. Did he play less politics than a lot of top talent of pretty much any era? Yeah, definitely. But did he also get a bug up his butt about certain guys like Mero and potentially help create a glass ceiling for them by not being willing to play ball? Most assuredly. It's also why Mick's cries of unfair treatment after everything he had done that Vince asked of him always didn't ring entirely true to me. Even in his books, Mick mentions in passing (though doesn't seem to be aware of it) a lot of times he shot down ideas Vince wanted him to do or had specific wants that Vince met.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Sept 10, 2019 16:48:01 GMT -5
It is my opinion that he was doomed from the start because he committed the cardinal sin in the WWF- having a gorgeous, busty blonde for a wife. I think that WWF management (especially Vince) at the time were a bunch of immature perverts who were jealous because they felt that Mero was out of his league with Sable and they wanted to separate them because they saw money in her. They did the same to candido, and tried to do it with Rusev.
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Sept 10, 2019 18:59:33 GMT -5
Yeah Foley had a petty reason for not wanting to work with Mero, but on the other hand the story line would involve Mankind thinking of Sable as a mommy figure.
And yeah Mero and Foley could potentially have the best matches on the card, but said matches would most likely be dragged down with that albatross of a story line hanging over them.
So maybe Mick was a little right in his thinking.
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Post by realist on Sept 10, 2019 19:14:23 GMT -5
Yeah Foley had a petty reason for not wanting to work with Mero, but on the other hand the story line would involve Mankind thinking of Sable as a mommy figure. And yeah Mero and Foley could potentially have the best matches on the card, but said matches would most likely be dragged down with that albatross of a story line hanging over them. So maybe Mick was a little right in his thinking. This is the same Mick Foley who had no trouble playing Mankind as seeing Goldust as a mommy figure.....
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Post by Spider2024 on Sept 10, 2019 19:26:37 GMT -5
It does sound unlike Mick to essentially hold another talent down, but then it makes sense when you realize that money was a heavy factor in that. This is the same Mick Foley that has played hardball more than once over the price of licensing his likeness in WWE games. Maybe Mick's always had a lingering problem with penny-pinching, no wonder he often resorts to cheap pop.
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