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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 12, 2019 22:15:46 GMT -5
Have not watched this season, but I had heard about the Dan stuff periodically. Its disgusting that he stayed longer than the woman who accused him and only got booted after their own staff complained. He should have been gone way earlier than this. I've spent the last hour reading up and watching clips and I don't understand how he didn't get ejected way sooner, especially with everything brought up in the Kellee boot episode. And others using the complaints as strategy is gross.
And Jeff Varner, of all people, was defending Dan on social media, claiming the cast is on his side, not Kellee's. As if this story couldn't get even worse.
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 12, 2019 22:22:16 GMT -5
If Tommy is the winner (and it seems pretty likely right now), what was even the point of that scene where Sandra said a woman was winning? It would be such a huge slap in the face from the editors for keeping it in and even teasing that possibility when they already knew how the rest of the season played out, especially with all the Dan stuff. After the season is over, Tommy comes out as trans.
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on Dec 13, 2019 4:24:47 GMT -5
Have not watched this season, but I had heard about the Dan stuff periodically. Its disgusting that he stayed longer than the woman who accused him and only got booted after their own staff complained. He should have been gone way earlier than this. I've spent the last hour reading up and watching clips and I don't understand how he didn't get ejected way sooner, especially with everything brought up in the Kellee boot episode. And others using the complaints as strategy is gross. And Jeff Varner, of all people, was defending Dan on social media, claiming the cast is on his side, not Kellee's. As if this story couldn't get even worse. Who better to have your back than the person who did the most dehumanizing thing prior to what you did? Varner to me is a crap human being in general. Defending a person who sexually harassed another player and then a staff member is downright gross. Can they just pretend this season didn't exist like they do with Thailand?
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Dec 13, 2019 11:29:37 GMT -5
Have not watched this season, but I had heard about the Dan stuff periodically. Its disgusting that he stayed longer than the woman who accused him and only got booted after their own staff complained. He should have been gone way earlier than this. I've spent the last hour reading up and watching clips and I don't understand how he didn't get ejected way sooner, especially with everything brought up in the Kellee boot episode. And others using the complaints as strategy is gross. And Jeff Varner, of all people, was defending Dan on social media, claiming the cast is on his side, not Kellee's. As if this story couldn't get even worse. Who better to have your back than the person who did the most dehumanizing thing prior to what you did? Varner to me is a crap human being in general. Defending a person who sexually harassed another player and then a staff member is downright gross. Can they just pretend this season didn't exist like they do with Thailand? Varner claims that they're pretaping the reunion so they can censor the cast standing up for Dan. Word I've read is a lot of the cast is wary of attending, so by pretaping it, they can edit anything anyone is uncomfortable with having air. It's unfortunate that this took up such a large part of the season, because they can't exactly treat it like Brandon or Ben and not acknowledge it. Especially with how it caught fire in the media, it's going to be a hot button topic one week later...
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Post by King Boo on Dec 13, 2019 13:25:19 GMT -5
They're not exactly handling the whole thing well, either. By being all cloak and dagger but telling juuuuust enough to make people "know" what happened, it just causes the conversation to continue.
Which it should, mind you, but from their perspective, they're not doing themselves any favors.
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 13, 2019 14:04:59 GMT -5
They're not exactly handling the whole thing well, either. By being all cloak and dagger but telling juuuuust enough to make people "know" what happened, it just causes the conversation to continue. Which it should, mind you, but from their perspective, they're not doing themselves any favors. I know you saw it on twitter, but for those who didn't, Malcolm posted links for sexual assault survivors to get help. CBS didn't even do that. It's don cherry all over again. They're trying to make a conversation, but they're going the worst way about it
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Dec 13, 2019 15:35:59 GMT -5
The past few seasons have damaged the game’s integrity (numerous idols, fire-making at final 4, Edge of Extinction, etc.).
This season damaged the show’s reputation and potentially its longevity.
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Post by Shy Guy on Dec 13, 2019 15:56:34 GMT -5
The past few seasons have damaged the game’s integrity (numerous idols, fire-making at final 4, Edge of Extinction, etc.). This season damaged the show’s reputation and potentially its longevity. 40 seasons isn't a bad way to go out
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Post by Sigma: Current SRW Champ! on Dec 14, 2019 4:13:57 GMT -5
The past few seasons have damaged the game’s integrity (numerous idols, fire-making at final 4, Edge of Extinction, etc.). This season damaged the show’s reputation and potentially its longevity. 40 seasons isn't a bad way to go out I say the show takes a year or two off, refresh everything and have Season 41 be the start of the new Generation of Survivor. Very few or no idols, 16 castaways, no gimmicks. Straight up Survivor for a few more seasons and tighten up everything when it regards to player safety, especially sexual harassment.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2019 12:50:25 GMT -5
I’d really don’t know what I’d do without Survivor
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Post by King Boo on Dec 14, 2019 13:00:07 GMT -5
I’d really don’t know what I’d do without Survivor It's been on basically half my life. I don't even know that I remember a time when I didn't have Survivor as part of my regular TV viewing.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2019 13:06:47 GMT -5
I’d really don’t know what I’d do without Survivor It's been on basically half my life. I don't even know that I remember a time when I didn't have Survivor as part of my regular TV viewing. i don't know why, maybe because I was busy with my hs baseball team, but I skipped both Fiji and Tocantins. But Samoa brought be back for good. Guess that's why I appreciate Russell more than most.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 14, 2019 13:14:46 GMT -5
It's been on basically half my life. I don't even know that I remember a time when I didn't have Survivor as part of my regular TV viewing. i don't know why, maybe because I was busy with my hs baseball team, but I skipped both Fiji and Tocantins. But Samoa brought be back for good. Guess that's why I appreciate Russell more than most. Have you gone back and seen those after the fact? Most people don't like Fiji, but I enjoyed it; Tocantins is legit a good season, imo.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2019 13:32:29 GMT -5
i don't know why, maybe because I was busy with my hs baseball team, but I skipped both Fiji and Tocantins. But Samoa brought be back for good. Guess that's why I appreciate Russell more than most. Have you gone back and seen those after the fact? Most people don't like Fiji, but I enjoyed it; Tocantins is legit a good season, imo. clips of tocantins but not all of it in sequence.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 14, 2019 14:33:46 GMT -5
Have you gone back and seen those after the fact? Most people don't like Fiji, but I enjoyed it; Tocantins is legit a good season, imo. clips of tocantins but not all of it in sequence. If you have a way to watch it, I'd say it's worth a look.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 15:37:46 GMT -5
If you guys ever wanted to be overwhelmed with bad takes and shitty behavior, Jeff Varner’s Twitter account today has been the place for you.
For some reason the guy that outted another player as trans as a game move feels compelled to defend the guy who got kicked out of the game for being a creep.
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Post by fw91 on Dec 14, 2019 15:43:59 GMT -5
If you guys ever wanted to be overwhelmed with bad takes and shitty behavior, Jeff Varner’s Twitter account today has been the place for you. For some reason the guy that outted another player as trans as a game move feels compelled to defend the guy who got kicked out of the game for being a creep. idk, i'm very uncomfortable talking about this because we really don't know what happened. Despite what we THINK we might know, I'm sure there is another side of the story. Because honestly, I originally thought what Janet thought. Dan comes from an older generation and isn't aware of current boundrary lines (think Joe Biden memes) But then this happened, and again details are scarce. Not defending, excusing or siding with Dan, but what if another castaway really knows what happened? But yeah Varner, shut up. You out of everyone else. Shut up.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Dec 14, 2019 21:26:23 GMT -5
I don't think CBS is gonna dump Survivor, at least not so soon. It's still currently their highest rated non-news/sports show and relatively cheap to produce. I do think, however, production needs to work hard in righting the ship or else they may not make it to season 50.
If I wanted to watch a show where rules don't matter and despicable human beings don't get their comeuppance, I'd watch Big Brother.
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Post by Jumpin' Jesse Walsh on Dec 14, 2019 21:28:08 GMT -5
By the way, has anyone watched non-US Survivor? Australian Survivor is so legit.
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Post by Porky's Butthole on Dec 15, 2019 3:23:11 GMT -5
clips of tocantins but not all of it in sequence. If you have a way to watch it, I'd say it's worth a look. Like..the first 32 seasons are on hulu.
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