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Post by thechase on Sept 12, 2019 3:32:58 GMT -5
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 12, 2019 5:19:03 GMT -5
If you base your decision on whether to be a firefighter or not on the mascot and having Sam as mascot puts you off then you shouldnt be anywhere near a fire.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Sept 12, 2019 5:35:47 GMT -5
Its hilarious reading the comments on some of the places I went too on Facebook, people are using the term snowflakes etc but there is just no comments of people disagreeing with them on this issue
I think the majority of "snowflakes" never cared or give any thought to him being the mascot
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Post by Muskrat on Sept 12, 2019 7:39:40 GMT -5
They better not f*** with Postman Pat
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 12, 2019 7:42:57 GMT -5
America went in a slightly different direction when choosing its firefighter mascot -  |
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Post by eJm on Sept 12, 2019 7:52:28 GMT -5
Is this going to be one of those stories where the people involved think most people get really offended by these things except the only thing you find is that other people get really offended by the decision to remove said thing and everyone else is surprised there are even mascots for this stuff at all?
I’m leaning towards “Yes”
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Post by crashmatsbazz on Sept 12, 2019 8:03:22 GMT -5
Welephant was better anyway.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Sept 12, 2019 8:40:11 GMT -5
If you base your decision on whether to be a firefighter or not on the mascot and having Sam as mascot puts you off then you shouldnt be anywhere near a fire. True, but in a discussion way bigger than we could have here, firefighting is seen as a very "guy" job, so a lot of people will just have that view growing up and women who would be capable won't even think about it, unlike say, the police or medical fields, or even the army, which has it's own vaaaast array of problems but at least is trying to change to be more inclusive to a degree. Changing that is something that needs effort from a young age so there is a point to making things more diverse from as young as possible. The series did bring in a female firefighter so they could have gone that route, they've just chosen another. Given these kinds of stories, I think pretty much any change that promoted diversity would have gotten a similar reaction. |
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Post by Jiren on Sept 12, 2019 8:46:16 GMT -5
f***ing stupid
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Post by Venti on Sept 12, 2019 9:36:29 GMT -5
More unnecessary PC crap
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 12, 2019 9:56:59 GMT -5
I'm honestly surprised that it's still a thing, given how Sam is owned by Mattel these days. I wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being down to royalties more than anything, with the brigade choosing to use characters they own, but not wanting to say it's cost cutting.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 9:58:44 GMT -5
I'm not familiar with the character, but it seems like you could just change the name to Firefighter Sam, have a female counterpart who's kept equally prominent in promotional stuff, and solve the whole perceived issue.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 10:20:11 GMT -5
Is this going to be one of those stories where the people involved think most people get really offended by these things except the only thing you find is that other people get really offended by the decision to remove said thing and everyone else is surprised there are even mascots for this stuff at all? I’m leaning towards “Yes” My reaction was "there was a mascot"? Of course, in America, our mascots are animal based since we believe kids respond to cartoonish creatures better than actual people in costume telling them to do the right thing. |
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 12, 2019 10:38:51 GMT -5
One fire service made an internal decision not to use the character as a mascot. Even as someone who watched and enjoyed Fireman Sam as a kid, I'm like... What's the big deal?
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Post by Cyno on Sept 12, 2019 10:49:34 GMT -5
Today is the first time I ever heard of Fireman Sam, so my reaction to all this is "ok." I'm guessing this story is SQW-bait in order to get them outraged about something insignificant.
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Post by thechase on Sept 12, 2019 10:57:09 GMT -5
Today is the first time I ever heard of Fireman Sam Oh good, I can introduce someone to the catchy jingle |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 12, 2019 12:40:34 GMT -5
It's one of those Outragebait stories circulated by tabloid newspapers and social media as something we should all be furious about. 'Oh my goodness, has political correctness gone mad?! A local firebrigade has changed their mascot for reasons I do not like! I shall loudly pretend to believe that it was incredibly important to me personally and is a sign we are going down the road to madness! Someone get me some smelling salts for I feel quite faint, and open the Daily Mail's comment section!'
In the grand scheme of thing, it's not important and they should have dropped him as a mascot when he was bought by Mattel years ago, most people likely thought he had been, I know I did.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Sept 12, 2019 13:52:50 GMT -5
This feels like another "Let's make people argue about s*** that doesn't matter!" story...
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Post by wildojinx on Sept 12, 2019 13:58:18 GMT -5
Thankfully, they've found a replacement:  |
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Sept 12, 2019 15:11:47 GMT -5
I've also found this is proof people don't read the articles, the amount of people I saw who thought the show had been outright cancelled was ridiculous
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