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Post by Savage Gambino on Dec 11, 2023 9:49:48 GMT -5
Sony can't use Spider-Man independent of the MCU, right? The only immediate logic to this Sony universe building is if they're prepping the landing pad for when they can do their own Peter Parker again and that's a ways off considering Disney have the Spider-Man character on tap for a couple more movies. I assume they just can't use the MCU Spider-Man independent of the MCU, hence why there were so many rumors about Sony using No Way Home as a backdoor pilot to a third Amazing Spider-Man film. Of course, there's also rumors that the fourth MCU Spider-Man film is going to somehow merge him with the mess over at Sony because SpiderVerse (certainly no chance of audiences getting tired of that, or any multiverse stuff, any time soon), so who the hell knows. Aside from Venom, who Avi Arad has been wanting to do movies about for decades, there's really no rhyme or reason to the rest of the live action slate. Sony is like the hanger-on of a much more successful rapper dropping mixtapes to see what sticks in the meantime. These Murphy Lee mixtape ass Marvel movies. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 20, 2024 21:59:06 GMT -5
I just got an ad for this on Youtube and has there ever been a movie where the trailers rather than showing footage are the actors introducing their characters that isn't complete asscheeks?
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Post by chrom on Jan 21, 2024 5:09:44 GMT -5
I seriously wanna know who greenlit this
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Post by thechase on Jan 21, 2024 6:36:23 GMT -5
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Post by bob on Jan 21, 2024 8:06:56 GMT -5
Let me know when we get Big Wheel He comes after The Wall:  IT’S THE WALL BROTHER! |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 21, 2024 9:39:03 GMT -5
Sony is so full of incompetent f***s. “No Way Home” gave them the perfect opportunity to tie all their shitty ass tie in movies to their Maguire and Garfield universes.’we could have gotten a Kraven’s Last Hunt against an older Maguire Spidey and Hardy’s Venom vs Garfield’s Spidey. All the incompetent suits involved in this should be fired and then fired again…out of a gigantic comedic cannon into the Pacific Ocean. |
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 21, 2024 9:51:37 GMT -5
Sony is so full of incompetent f***s. “No Way Home” gave them the perfect opportunity to tie all their shitty ass tie in movies to their Maguire and Garfield universes.’we could have gotten a Kraven’s Last Hunt against an older Maguire Spidey and Hardy’s Venom vs Garfield’s Spidey. All the incompetent suits involved in this should be fired and then fired again…out of a gigantic comedic cannon into the Pacific Ocean. Okay, you just made me look up that Kraven The Hunter movie because I couldn't remember if it came out, died at the box office, and got forgotten already, or if it still hasn't been released. It still hasn't been released. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Jan 21, 2024 10:08:32 GMT -5
Rights wise, could Sony do a live action Miles Morales if they wished? Granted it might seem redundant with Spider-Verse getting so big, but if there's a safe pick to center a new series of movies around its him sooner than Kraven or Madame Web.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 21, 2024 11:49:05 GMT -5
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 21, 2024 17:32:19 GMT -5
Rights wise, could Sony do a live action Miles Morales if they wished? Granted it might seem redundant with Spider-Verse getting so big, but if there's a safe pick to center a new series of movies around its him sooner than Kraven or Madame Web. I would honestly rather they let Marvel Studios handle Miles, if only because the only thing about that character that Spider-Verse can't (or didn't already) do better is Champions stuff with Ms. Marvel and Nova. I have no hope whatsoever for a live action Miles film with Amy and Avi at the helm. |
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Post by chrom on Jan 21, 2024 17:41:44 GMT -5
Sony is so full of incompetent f***s. “No Way Home” gave them the perfect opportunity to tie all their shitty ass tie in movies to their Maguire and Garfield universes.’we could have gotten a Kraven’s Last Hunt against an older Maguire Spidey and Hardy’s Venom vs Garfield’s Spidey. All the incompetent suits involved in this should be fired and then fired again…out of a gigantic comedic cannon into the Pacific Ocean. Gotta wonder how a company so incompetent is still in business. |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 21, 2024 18:57:18 GMT -5
Sony is so full of incompetent f***s. “No Way Home” gave them the perfect opportunity to tie all their shitty ass tie in movies to their Maguire and Garfield universes.’we could have gotten a Kraven’s Last Hunt against an older Maguire Spidey and Hardy’s Venom vs Garfield’s Spidey. All the incompetent suits involved in this should be fired and then fired again…out of a gigantic comedic cannon into the Pacific Ocean. Gotta wonder how a company so incompetent is still in business. And worse off they’ve been doing this since Maguire’s run. Forcing Venom into Spidey 3. Their hard on for the Sinister Six being a thing and a movie that they handcuffed Garfield to it. The MCU Spidey movies aren’t perfect but they saved Spidey for Sony. |
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Post by DichEvans on Jan 21, 2024 19:08:48 GMT -5
Kinda funny to see the same general disinterest/anger that exists in the comic book world when it comes to using tertiary characters.
Basically, comic books are done in cycles. In attempt to boost sales, established characters get killed and tertiary characters no one really cares about get spin-offs as the entire universe starts to deviate from basic reality. This usually leads to the universe getting reset.
It's weird to see these movie studios make the exact same mistakes the comic book industry has been making for decades. The comic book universe(s) seem plentiful, but in reality, there are only 6-7 superheros that have truly been profitable over the long term
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Post by sandrock on Jan 21, 2024 19:32:26 GMT -5
Kinda funny to see the same general disinterest/anger that exists in the comic book world when it comes to using tertiary characters. Basically, comic books are done in cycles. In attempt to boost sales, established characters get killed and tertiary characters no one really cares about get spin-offs as the entire universe starts to deviate from basic reality. This usually leads to the universe getting reset. It's weird to see these movie studios make the exact same mistakes the comic book industry has been making for decades. The comic book universe(s) seem plentiful, but in reality, there are only 6-7 superheros that have truly been profitable over the long term Who would you say those 6-7 truly profitable superheroes are? I'm guessing Batman, Spidey, "X-Men" as one, Wolverine...Final 2-3 pre-and post the first Iron Man movie are tough. |
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Jan 21, 2024 19:35:39 GMT -5
Which will end with Miles not becoming Spider-Man given the current trajectory of the Sonyverse. Mind, it is funny that this is all inevitably leading to a Sonyverse crossover the will make DCEU Justice League seem like an unbridled success. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 21, 2024 20:07:44 GMT -5
I kind of doubt the Sonyverse survives this year anyway. This and Kraven are both obviously going to flop and seeing as the second Venom made nowhere near as much money as the first one and the way superhero box offices have fallen off a cliff since that point I wouldn't really count on the third doing particularly well.
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Post by DichEvans on Jan 21, 2024 22:48:27 GMT -5
Kinda funny to see the same general disinterest/anger that exists in the comic book world when it comes to using tertiary characters. Basically, comic books are done in cycles. In attempt to boost sales, established characters get killed and tertiary characters no one really cares about get spin-offs as the entire universe starts to deviate from basic reality. This usually leads to the universe getting reset. It's weird to see these movie studios make the exact same mistakes the comic book industry has been making for decades. The comic book universe(s) seem plentiful, but in reality, there are only 6-7 superheros that have truly been profitable over the long term Who would you say those 6-7 truly profitable superheroes are? I'm guessing Batman, Spidey, "X-Men" as one, Wolverine...Final 2-3 pre-and post the first Iron Man movie are tough. I worked at a comic book store in the 90's. Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and X-Men were 90% of our sales (im counting spinoffs like Venom and Wolverine in this category) When they killed Superman, we were making record profits. Truth be told, during that time, the JLA was about 500% more popular than The Avengers. Which, I don't think is true anymore. |
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 21, 2024 23:03:43 GMT -5
Who would you say those 6-7 truly profitable superheroes are? I'm guessing Batman, Spidey, "X-Men" as one, Wolverine...Final 2-3 pre-and post the first Iron Man movie are tough. I worked at a comic book store in the 90's. Superman, Batman, Spider-Man and X-Men were 90% of our sales (im counting spinoffs like Venom and Wolverine in this category) When they killed Superman, we were making record profits. Truth be told, during that time, the JLA was about 500% more popular than The Avengers. Which, I don't think is true anymore.Jurgens-era JLI was selling that well? Have I underestimated the sales potential of characters like Maxima and Bloodwynd? |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Jan 22, 2024 0:31:27 GMT -5
Kinda funny to see the same general disinterest/anger that exists in the comic book world when it comes to using tertiary characters. Basically, comic books are done in cycles. In attempt to boost sales, established characters get killed and tertiary characters no one really cares about get spin-offs as the entire universe starts to deviate from basic reality. This usually leads to the universe getting reset. It's weird to see these movie studios make the exact same mistakes the comic book industry has been making for decades. The comic book universe(s) seem plentiful, but in reality, there are only 6-7 superheros that have truly been profitable over the long term The general audience will flock to see Spider-Man, not movies about Spider-Man’s supporting cast and villains that seem too ashamed to even directly mention Spider-Man. |
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Post by DichEvans on Jan 22, 2024 0:52:38 GMT -5
Kinda funny to see the same general disinterest/anger that exists in the comic book world when it comes to using tertiary characters. Basically, comic books are done in cycles. In attempt to boost sales, established characters get killed and tertiary characters no one really cares about get spin-offs as the entire universe starts to deviate from basic reality. This usually leads to the universe getting reset. It's weird to see these movie studios make the exact same mistakes the comic book industry has been making for decades. The comic book universe(s) seem plentiful, but in reality, there are only 6-7 superheros that have truly been profitable over the long term The general audience will flock to see Spider-Man, not movies about Spider-Man’s supporting cast and villains that seem too ashamed to even directly mention Spider-Man. I generally agree. Although, I do think movies like Kick-Ass and Kingsmen do show that niche comic movies can be made into good movies, if people actually put effort into writing a decent scrip and having a capable director. With a few exceptions, this is something Marvel/Disney and DC have not really done. It's just a mindless movie factory, propped up with fan service |
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