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Post by Celgress on Nov 26, 2019 15:40:12 GMT -5
Corny attacks Meltzer again. He states Meltzer is "depressed", "dishonest", "inclusive" (as if this a bad thing) and "has lost respect for the business" rather than accept recent criticism for his bad behavior. Oh, and he goes off on Omega again.
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Post by Fade on Nov 26, 2019 15:48:39 GMT -5
Haven’t given any of Jim’s shit a listen since this whole debacle but I welcome him to continue yelling and screaming at the heavens to his hearts utter content.
Happy 60 pages everyone
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Post by Celgress on Nov 26, 2019 15:51:29 GMT -5
Haven’t given any of Jim’s shit a listen since this whole debacle but I welcome him to continue yelling and screaming at the heavens to his hearts utter content. Happy 60 pages everyone That's why I provide a brief summary so people aren't forced to listen to his recent garbage. He also runs down Joshi wrestlers and disabled wrestlers in this clip while his voice increases in volume. Brian Last chimes in every so often to agree. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Nov 26, 2019 15:53:34 GMT -5
Corny attacks Meltzer again. He states Meltzer is "depressed", "dishonest", "inclusive" (as if this a bad thing) and "has lost respect for the business" rather than accept recent criticism for his bad behavior. Oh, and he goes off on Omega again. Well he's attacked everything else so he might as well attack mental stability I really don't ever want to hear again Cornette is "working" and you don't get it |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 26, 2019 16:02:35 GMT -5
I'm not making the mistake of listening to more Cornette clips again but I will say
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 16:05:08 GMT -5
Calling someone inclusive like it's a bad thing really just goes to show just how shitty Cornette is.
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Post by Celgress on Nov 26, 2019 16:07:48 GMT -5
I don't know much about Brian Last. Does he have any credibility in the industry? If so, I can't help but think that his recent stint as Corny's sockpuppet/morality shield can't be doing him any favors.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 16:09:36 GMT -5
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 26, 2019 16:16:58 GMT -5
Calling someone inclusive like it's a bad thing really just goes to show just how shitty Cornette is. Poeple don't want to hear that Cornette's gimmick is more about bigot grandstanding and serving a specific audience, but when you call someone inclusive as a blanket negative, you're suddenly on the same level of people who put out Youtube videos with the title "SJW TAKEOVER OF VIDEO GAMES" with a screencap of that stock 'angry feminist' woman yelling. You know the one. It's the one they all use. Cornette's showing his stripes with all this bullshit and there's really no way for him to weasel out of the truth of what he's doing. |
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Post by Celgress on Nov 26, 2019 16:21:08 GMT -5
Calling someone inclusive like it's a bad thing really just goes to show just how shitty Cornette is. Poeple don't want to hear that Cornette's gimmick is more about bigot grandstanding and serving a specific audience, but when you call someone inclusive as a blanket negative, you're suddenly on the same level of people who put out Youtube videos with the title "SJW TAKEOVER OF VIDEO GAMES" with a screencap of that stock 'angry feminist' woman yelling. The one they all use. Cornette's showing his stripes with all this bullshit and there's really no way for him to weasel out of the truth of what he's doing. Speaking of Corny's problem with inclusivity in the latest clip he negatively compares several wrestlers (including a disabled one) who were in the Double or Nothing Battle Royal to "carnival show freaks" (and this isn't the first time). Now, think about that for a minute. Being a "carnival show freak" was often the only work many people born with physical and/or mental impartments could get at the time. Few of these poor souls wanted to be gawked at but they had few, if any, other options. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Nov 26, 2019 16:26:11 GMT -5
Poeple don't want to hear that Cornette's gimmick is more about bigot grandstanding and serving a specific audience, but when you call someone inclusive as a blanket negative, you're suddenly on the same level of people who put out Youtube videos with the title "SJW TAKEOVER OF VIDEO GAMES" with a screencap of that stock 'angry feminist' woman yelling. The one they all use. Cornette's showing his stripes with all this bullshit and there's really no way for him to weasel out of the truth of what he's doing. Speaking of Corny's problem with inclusivity in the latest clip he negatively compares several wrestlers (including a disabled one) who were in the Double or Nothing Battle Royal to "carnival show freaks" (and this isn't the first time). Now, think about that for a minute. Being a "carnival show freak" was often the only work many people born with physical and/or mental impartments could get at the time. Few of these poor souls wanted to be gawked at but they had few, if any, other options. How can pro wrestling historian Jim Cornette be expected to know about the nature of old carnivals? You're just projecting your own bias and bigotry onto him, just because you think of disabled people in that light doesn't mean he does, you just want blood. You're the real bigot here for accusing him like that, Amityville. -Brian Last, probably |
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Post by Celgress on Nov 26, 2019 16:34:53 GMT -5
Speaking of Corny's problem with inclusivity in the latest clip he negatively compares several wrestlers (including a disabled one) who were in the Double or Nothing Battle Royal to "carnival show freaks" (and this isn't the first time). Now, think about that for a minute. Being a "carnival show freak" was often the only work many people born with physical and/or mental impartments could get at the time. Few of these poor souls wanted to be gawked at but they had few, if any, other options. How can pro wrestling historian Jim Cornette be expected to know about the nature of old carnivals? You're just projecting your own bias and bigotry onto him, just because you think of disabled people in that light doesn't mean he does, you just want blood. You're the real bigot here for accusing him like that, Amityville. -Brian Last, probably LMAO, no doubt I've been a very bad fan, shame on me.  |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 26, 2019 16:46:12 GMT -5
It's weird that he's now directly coveting/marketing to an audience he's at least in the past voiced the exact opposite political opinion as; but pretty clear that's what he's doing. Odd.
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Post by Tenshigure on Nov 26, 2019 16:51:54 GMT -5
It's weird that he's now directly coveting/marketing to an audience he's at least in the past voiced the exact opposite political opinion as; but pretty clear that's what he's doing. Odd. He's worked himself into a shoot, pure and simple. He thinks his opinions and his demeanor haven't changed one bit, yet we are now at a point where his blanket insults of various parts of modern wrestling have exposed them for what they really are: bigoted, racist, sexist, homophobic opinions that have always been there from the beginning his the back of his head. |
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Post by Celgress on Nov 26, 2019 16:56:22 GMT -5
It's weird that he's now directly coveting/marketing to an audience he's at least in the past voiced the exact opposite political opinion as; but pretty clear that's what he's doing. Odd. Edit: ixnay on the actually mentioning names and such. You're right&I alluded to it and prolly shouldn't have, but still gotta keep it within rules. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 26, 2019 17:14:32 GMT -5
Poeple don't want to hear that Cornette's gimmick is more about bigot grandstanding and serving a specific audience, but when you call someone inclusive as a blanket negative, you're suddenly on the same level of people who put out Youtube videos with the title "SJW TAKEOVER OF VIDEO GAMES" with a screencap of that stock 'angry feminist' woman yelling. The one they all use. Cornette's showing his stripes with all this bullshit and there's really no way for him to weasel out of the truth of what he's doing. Speaking of Corny's problem with inclusivity in the latest clip he negatively compares several wrestlers (including a disabled one) who were in the Double or Nothing Battle Royal to "carnival show freaks" (and this isn't the first time). Now, think about that for a minute. Being a "carnival show freak" was often the only work many people born with physical and/or mental impartments could get at the time. Few of these poor souls wanted to be gawked at but they had few, if any, other options. You know his argument about that battle Royal to me falls on death ears when he was in the Gimmick Battle Royal from Wrestlemania 17. A battle Royal that was a bunch of over the top gimmicks |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 26, 2019 17:31:22 GMT -5
Speaking of Corny's problem with inclusivity in the latest clip he negatively compares several wrestlers (including a disabled one) who were in the Double or Nothing Battle Royal to "carnival show freaks" (and this isn't the first time). Now, think about that for a minute. Being a "carnival show freak" was often the only work many people born with physical and/or mental impartments could get at the time. Few of these poor souls wanted to be gawked at but they had few, if any, other options. You know his argument about that battle Royal to me falls on death ears when he was in the Gimmick Battle Royal from Wrestlemania 17. A battle Royal that was a bunch of over the top gimmicks And, as he's bringing the state of peoples' bodies into this, was won by the Iron Sheik specifically because he was physically incapable of taking a bump over the top rope. |
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Post by KofiMania on Nov 26, 2019 17:32:05 GMT -5
Speaking of Corny's problem with inclusivity in the latest clip he negatively compares several wrestlers (including a disabled one) who were in the Double or Nothing Battle Royal to "carnival show freaks" (and this isn't the first time). Now, think about that for a minute. Being a "carnival show freak" was often the only work many people born with physical and/or mental impartments could get at the time. Few of these poor souls wanted to be gawked at but they had few, if any, other options. You know his argument about that battle Royal to me falls on death ears when he was in the Gimmick Battle Royal from Wrestlemania 17. A battle Royal that was a bunch of over the top gimmicks I did understand his argument about that, somewhat. He wasn’t bemoaning gimmicks in general, he was saying that it was a weird thing to have on your first show where you should be looking to introduce characters to people and explain who people are, instead of throwing a bunch of gimmicks out there with no explanation. I felt similarly while watching the battle royal. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 26, 2019 17:33:48 GMT -5
You know his argument about that battle Royal to me falls on death ears when he was in the Gimmick Battle Royal from Wrestlemania 17. A battle Royal that was a bunch of over the top gimmicks I did understand his argument about that, somewhat. He wasn’t bemoaning gimmicks in general, he was saying that it was a weird thing to have on your first show where you should be looking to introduce characters to people and explain who people are, instead of throwing a bunch of gimmicks out there with no explanation. I felt similarly while watching the battle royal. Your point is fine. The first show was used under the belief that these guys were known. But Jim does not always convey is message the best. |
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Post by Dub H on Nov 26, 2019 17:37:34 GMT -5
Corny attacks Meltzer again. He states Meltzer is "depressed", "dishonest", "inclusive" (as if this a bad thing) and "has lost respect for the business" rather than accept recent criticism for his bad behavior. Oh, and he goes off on Omega again. Well he's attacked everything else so he might as well attack mental stability I really don't ever want to hear again Cornette is "working" and you don't get it  |
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