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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 29, 2019 8:56:20 GMT -5
The issue with AEW, though, is that there’d be weekly traveling across the country, which was one of the factors behind him leaving Smackdown. Granted, the AEW schedule is much lighter, so it could be different.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Nov 29, 2019 9:01:10 GMT -5
The issue with AEW, though, is that there’d be weekly traveling across the country, which was one of the factors behind him leaving Smackdown. Granted, the AEW schedule is much lighter, so it could be different. I think it would be about the same as his current NXT schedule. If anything, NXT’s probably lighter since it’s almost all travel to the one place, with a handful of longer trips elsewhere over the course of the year. That’s a key thing to remember in this... Ranallo has been kept in the NXT bubble (for lack of a better term) since his return from his previous major episode, and there’d been no problems. As soon NXT gets figured into main roster stuff, well... 40 pages later, here we are.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 29, 2019 9:17:04 GMT -5
Some people who come here and post their ridiculous takes have to realize that Vince McMahon doesn't run this board, and you are not going to get ahead by parroting the viewpoint of an old, out of touch, carny. It doesn't make you brave, or cool, or an iconalist to be edgy and say uneducated, for lack of better terms, bullshit, about someone's mental health.
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Post by JTG on Nov 29, 2019 10:03:59 GMT -5
I don't excuse for a second Graves's behavior. I never will. Doing this with a man known for his mental illness is pityful. I never said that he was right. And I never will.
But I also think that it may be time for WWE to reconsider how they're using Mauro Ranallo. I didn't say to fire him. Just give him something riskless, like preshows on the Network, announcing some taped stuff like NXT UK, or give him his own talk show.
He's just too unreliable to give him a spot on the 3rd brand announcing booth. I totally respect his illness, but when you do such a work, that you call it your passion, you can't quit just because you feel unwell. Or do another job.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 10:11:41 GMT -5
I don't excuse for a second Graves's behavior. I never will. Doing this with a man known for his mental illness is pityful. I never said that he was right. And I never will. But I also think that it may be time for WWE to reconsider how they're using Mauro Ranallo. I didn't say to fire him. Just give him something riskless, like preshows on the Network, announcing some taped stuff like NXT UK, or give him his own talk show. He's just too unreliable to give him a spot on the 3rd brand announcing booth. I totally respect his illness, but when you do such a work, that you call it your passion, you can't quit just because you feel unwell. Or do another job. No you don't.
If you did you wouldn't be saying what you're saying. You're completely undermining mental illness right now. You need to step your knowledge up and stop acting as if it's Mauro's fault when the reality is no it's on the WWE here with it's work and social culture.
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Post by eJm on Nov 29, 2019 10:11:49 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks.
People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell.
If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 29, 2019 10:31:59 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks. People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell. If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE. Worth noting that the Mauro mentions Showtime calling him on occasion to see how he’s doing in the documentary. I dunno if WWE does the same there.
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Post by Fade on Nov 29, 2019 10:34:10 GMT -5
Honestly, if there’s truth to the latest Meltzer stuff, then maybe they need to slowly and amicably go their separate ways. No rah-rah-boo-wwe stuff, but Mauro has options, WWE has other talented people on deck and sometimes relationships just aren’t meant to be.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Nov 29, 2019 10:42:40 GMT -5
Boy, this thread sure have showed a lot of people's true colors.
Twitter is guilty of that as well. Its one benefit, in my eyes, is that it really exposes who people are deep down.
There is no reason those with mental health issues can't work in WWE. Just treat them with respect and they should be fine.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Nov 29, 2019 11:00:59 GMT -5
Maybe WWE could I dunno, just be an inclusive place and not some shitty boys club with douchebags who get brownie points with their 75 year old boss for shitting on anybody perceived as “weak” or “a pussy”.
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Post by autisticgeordie on Nov 29, 2019 11:24:34 GMT -5
Mauro was doing a shit load of stuff before WWE; It's not a problem with Mauro, but, as many have said, it's WWE's problem because of their old school carny culture mentality that rewards bullies and assholes. It's obvious that Vince still seems to operate in this bullshit, outdated and antiquated world of the old days where wrestlers were more cutthroat than a pirate crew!
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Nov 29, 2019 11:42:20 GMT -5
Boy, this thread sure have showed a lot of people's true colors. Twitter is guilty of that as well. Its one benefit, in my eyes, is that it really exposes who people are deep down. There is no reason those with mental health issues can't work in WWE. Just treat them with respect and they should be fine. I dunno why WWE’s wellness policy doesn’t extend to mental wellness, to be honest.
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Post by warden on Nov 29, 2019 11:46:34 GMT -5
Mauro was doing a shit load of stuff before WWE; It's not a problem with Mauro, but, as many have said, it's WWE's problem because of their old school carny culture mentality that rewards bullies and assholes. It's obvious that Vince still seems to operate in this bullshit, outdated and antiquated world of the old days where wrestlers were more cutthroat than a pirate crew! Every rasslin promotion is a pirate ship, matey. And this one has been at sea for many moons and dawns, yaar. All the other ships sadly lie in Davey Jones' locker. The ROH is taking on water last I heard, may soon be joining the reef, yaar
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 29, 2019 11:51:10 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks. People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell. If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE. Worth noting that the Mauro mentions Showtime calling him on occasion to see how he’s doing in the documentary. I dunno if WWE does the same there. If they don't, WWE is a worse place to work than I thought.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Nov 29, 2019 11:55:33 GMT -5
Mauro was doing a shit load of stuff before WWE; It's not a problem with Mauro, but, as many have said, it's WWE's problem because of their old school carny culture mentality that rewards bullies and assholes. It's obvious that Vince still seems to operate in this bullshit, outdated and antiquated world of the old days where wrestlers were more cutthroat than a pirate crew! 100 Percent. It has only ever gotten to this post while at WWE. The man was having problems before calling MAYWEATHER VS PACQUIAO and still showed up. The biggest boxing match in history. Why? Because Showtime doesn't allow unrepentant douche bags like Corey Graves and Bradshaw do whatever they want because of "paying dues" to "diz business"
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 29, 2019 12:18:09 GMT -5
Boy, this thread sure have showed a lot of people's true colors. Twitter is guilty of that as well. Its one benefit, in my eyes, is that it really exposes who people are deep down. There is no reason those with mental health issues can't work in WWE. Just treat them with respect and they should be fine. I dunno why WWE’s wellness policy doesn’t extend to mental wellness, to be honest. Does WWE ever do anything proactive?
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 29, 2019 13:18:53 GMT -5
I dunno why WWE’s wellness policy doesn’t extend to mental wellness, to be honest. Does WWE ever do anything proactive? Not before someone has either died and/or sued the company over it; and even then, they will fight tooth-and-nail.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 29, 2019 13:25:47 GMT -5
It's amazing how Mauro has been calling all these major bouts for boxing and MMA promotions around the world and they're perfectly capable of accommodating his mental health issues and are generally really supportive of him.
WWE? His coworker mocks him in public and is somehow seen as the "good guy" in all this by some in the company reportedly.
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Post by Andy Martin on Nov 29, 2019 14:02:34 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks. People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell. If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE. I know he had to take a break(which turned into leaving the company entirely) with Invicta. He had similar issues working TV in Canada, albeit without the social media “pressure”
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Post by autisticgeordie on Nov 29, 2019 14:07:27 GMT -5
Mauro was doing a shit load of stuff before WWE; It's not a problem with Mauro, but, as many have said, it's WWE's problem because of their old school carny culture mentality that rewards bullies and assholes. It's obvious that Vince still seems to operate in this bullshit, outdated and antiquated world of the old days where wrestlers were more cutthroat than a pirate crew! 100 Percent. It has only ever gotten to this post while at WWE. The man was having problems before calling MAYWEATHER VS PACQUIAO and still showed up. The biggest boxing match in history. Why? Because Showtime doesn't allow unrepentant douche bags like Corey Graves and Bradshaw do whatever they want because of "paying dues" to "diz business" I mean, Brian Zane pretty much said what I did, but back when he did a video on the Bill DeMott scandal; so it's not like I'm saying anything new, but that's the thing! It's not hard to figure this shit out as to what the problem is! Also, in what other line of work would bullying be rewarded? If I was working as, say, a janitor in a high school and another staff member was harrassing me like JBL or Corey was to Mauro, and I made a complaint, there's a fair chance that the staff member harrassing me would be shown the door; but the WWE not only seems to accept that out of date and needless culture, but it seems to embrace it.
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