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Post by chrom on Nov 29, 2019 14:14:52 GMT -5
As someone who's dealt with serious cases of depression, to the point that I admit I've been taking medication for it, it'd be for the best if Mauro leaves WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 14:18:21 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks. People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell. If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE. I know he had to take a break(which turned into leaving the company entirely) with Invicta. He had similar issues working TV in Canada, albeit without the social media “pressure” Glad you replied, I was going to look for your quote from a few pages back. Very important to note that this hasn't been a WWE only occurence for Mauro.
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Post by kidkamikaze10 on Nov 29, 2019 14:19:44 GMT -5
Mauro doesn’t deserve this crap. And the E doesn’t deserve him.
I’d hope a place like AEW would be more accommodating. I think Mauro has a lot to add to the wrestling business.
Just not with jerks like Graves and JBL. Speaking of, Graves should be thanking his lucky stars the company is as douche filled as him.
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Post by ogreknee on Nov 29, 2019 14:22:02 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks. People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell. If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE. I think mauro has a certain anxiety tied to main roster wwe. I mean i had anxiety going back to work at a place i was harassed and abused. To where i had to interact with my abusers. It is f***ed. That is my situation and i transfer out next monday. But right now i have been on edge just coming and being at work. If mauro feels the same way i do. Then wwe just should keep him off the mixed brand shows. Because even if corey said nothing these anxieties might show up just from the thought of being in that situation
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Post by ogreknee on Nov 29, 2019 14:27:10 GMT -5
As pointed out before, by myself and others, Mauro has done events way bigger and with way more pressure than NXT. Boxing matches that have dwarfed WWE audiences, established MMA promotions, for TV networks. People point to his reaction to comments after Mayweather/Pacquiao in the documentary but you also notice that none of these comments have flared up for Showtime or Bellator or anywhere else he's called action and he certainly hasn't been unable to show up for work because of his condition as far as I could tell. If WWE is the only place where these sorts of problems have come up...that's not down to Mauro. That's down to WWE. I know he had to take a break(which turned into leaving the company entirely) with Invicta. He had similar issues working TV in Canada, albeit without the social media “pressure” This was covered in the showtime documentary. Sometimes you just go through these loooooong depressive spells. I mean for on and off for about 6 years mauro went inpatient to avoid suicide. The man is sick. This might have happened whether corey said something or didn't because these depressive moods come hard or soft. It appears in this instance his emotiond are off their rocker. I hope frank is making sure mauro is not in a position to do self harm. I think deleting twitter is for the best
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Post by Andy Martin on Nov 29, 2019 14:29:06 GMT -5
I know he had to take a break(which turned into leaving the company entirely) with Invicta. He had similar issues working TV in Canada, albeit without the social media “pressure” Glad you replied, I was going to look for your quote from a few pages back. Very important to note that this hasn't been a WWE only occurence for Mauro. Make no mistake, I don’t think the WWE environment is good for him, but it also isn’t a WWE-specific occurrence.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 29, 2019 18:15:56 GMT -5
Some of the comments in this thread are downright disgusting
I genuinely thought FAN was better than some of the comments I've seen here, it's just really upsetting to see some of the stuff I've seen in this thread and some other ones with serious talking points over the past few weeks
It should not be THIS HARD for some people to understand how serious a situation like this is, but holy hell it apparently is. I've had multiple friends deal with depression, who have actually almost killed themselves over it at some point in their lives. You don't get to tell someone they're being unprofessional or they should "Do their job" like you know exactly how they're feeling and you know exactly how they should be acting
Plain and simple, you're not them, and you don't understand, so stop trying to act like you do, and my deepest thanks for the people in this thread who DO understand that clearly, and have also demeaned these comments.
And if there is any truth to WWE backing Graves over this situation, then things are way worse than I thought when it comes to WWE's backstage environment, and this is coming off the Saudi shit.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Nov 29, 2019 18:17:03 GMT -5
Some of the comments in this thread are downright disgusting I genuinely thought FAN was better than some of the comments I've seen here, it's just really upsetting to see some of the stuff I've seen in this thread and some other ones with serious talking points over the past few weeks It should not be THIS HARD for some people to understand how serious a situation like this is, but holy hell it apparently is. I've had multiple friends deal with depression, who have actually almost killed themselves over it at some point in their lives. You don't get to tell someone they're being unprofessional or they should "Do their job" like you know exactly how they're feeling and you know exactly how they should be acting Plain and simple, you're not them, and you don't understand, so stop trying to act like you do, and my deepest thanks for the people in this thread who DO understand that clearly, and have also demeaned these comments. And if there is any truth to WWE backing Graves over this situation, then things are way worse than I thought when it comes to WWE's backstage environment, and this is coming off the Saudi shit. I am in 100% agreement with this.
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Post by nisidhe on Nov 29, 2019 19:28:46 GMT -5
Glad you replied, I was going to look for your quote from a few pages back. Very important to note that this hasn't been a WWE only occurence for Mauro. Make no mistake, I don’t think the WWE environment is good for him, but it also isn’t a WWE-specific occurrence. True, but it appears to be only WWE (and parties seemingly acting on their behalf/instruction/approval) whose public treatment of Mauro is problematic. As for Mauro leaving WWE, I would suggest that, yes, Mauro could be treated better elsewhere. However, there are parties within WWE who would be loath to see him go or, worse, go elsewhere and help a competitor build itself up more by bringing him in. Mauro is one of WWE's best assets: they will pay him pretty much what he wants for what he does. The problem seems to be that WWE cannot seem to pay him in the intangible ways that will make him stay and be happy.
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Post by eJm on Nov 29, 2019 21:28:26 GMT -5
I’d say Corey commentating on Smackdown tonight basically showed that narrative about them thinking he’s in the right has a biiiiiit of legs to it.
Which is, well, gross. Highly expected but gross.
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Post by KofiMania on Nov 29, 2019 21:35:13 GMT -5
I’d say Corey commentating on Smackdown tonight basically showed that narrative about them thinking he’s in the right has a biiiiiit of legs to it. Which is, well, gross. Highly expected but gross. It’s definitely a serious situation for Mauro but do you really think Graves initial tweets should mean he’s suspended?
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Nov 29, 2019 21:37:31 GMT -5
I’d say Corey commentating on Smackdown tonight basically showed that narrative about them thinking he’s in the right has a biiiiiit of legs to it. Which is, well, gross. Highly expected but gross. It’s definitely a serious situation for Mauro but do you really think Graves initial tweets should mean he’s suspended? Considering that Vince suspended Titus O'neil 90 days for touching him, I would say that openly knocking a co-worker's work, someone who isn't a wrestler, would call for some punishment.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 29, 2019 21:38:06 GMT -5
I’d say Corey commentating on Smackdown tonight basically showed that narrative about them thinking he’s in the right has a biiiiiit of legs to it. Which is, well, gross. Highly expected but gross. It’s definitely a serious situation for Mauro but do you really think Graves initial tweets should mean he’s suspended? It should mean SOMETHING. The fact he didn't even genuinely apologize and is making these vague comments about changing and trying to direct the pity on to him have really been disgusting and scummy, and him just going about commentating like nothing happened only makes it worse to me. This isn't the first time Graves has been an unapologetic dickhead, so yeah, he should have gotten something rather than he gets to on like everything is fine and Mauro's legitimately going through a really rough situation BECAUSE of him. Shit ain't right.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 29, 2019 22:18:07 GMT -5
I’d say Corey commentating on Smackdown tonight basically showed that narrative about them thinking he’s in the right has a biiiiiit of legs to it. Which is, well, gross. Highly expected but gross. It’s definitely a serious situation for Mauro but do you really think Graves initial tweets should mean he’s suspended? Considering the effect his words had? Yes, absolutly. His initial tweets were what escalated this situation, and intention or not, someone got hurt. Do something to indicate this is being treated seriously.
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Post by Cyno on Nov 29, 2019 22:59:32 GMT -5
Even if Graves didn't know Mauro was in the middle of a bipolar episode, his complete lack of remorse, indeed doubling down on his sentiments after the fact should've earned him some kind of reprimand.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 23:01:30 GMT -5
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Nov 29, 2019 23:21:01 GMT -5
Graves thinks it’s funny to pick on a coworker with legitimate mental health issues? Just to pitch a possible angle?
Here’s a pitch for ya. Mario’s friend, Frank Shamrock, responds by roughing Graves up a bit (with no prior warning).
What’s that? Graves has a history of medical issues that would make doing something like that extremely dangerous to his health?
Well, then you’d have to be a real **** to go and do something like that, wouldn’t you?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2019 23:26:20 GMT -5
Graves thinks it’s funny to pick on a coworker with legitimate mental health issues? Just to pitch a possible angle? Here’s a pitch for ya. Mario’s friend, Frank Shamrock, responds by roughing Graves up a bit (with no prior warning). What’s that? Graves has a history of medical issues that would make doing something like that extremely dangerous to his health? Well, then you’d have to be a real **** to go and do something like that, wouldn’t you? Nah, I don't want Graves to be hurt. I just want him to stop being an ass. Any comments I've made about the MMA guys backing up Mauro isn't out of any desire to see Graves get his ass kicked, it's just pointing out that guys who literally get punched in the face for a living don't see Mauro as "weak". On top of that, he apologized to Shamrock, but not Mauro. I wonder why?
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Post by KofiMania on Nov 29, 2019 23:28:42 GMT -5
It’s definitely a serious situation for Mauro but do you really think Graves initial tweets should mean he’s suspended? Considering the effect his words had? Yes, absolutly. His initial tweets were what escalated this situation, and intention or not, someone got hurt. Do something to indicate this is being treated seriously. I feel for workplace misconduct, it’s the conduct and it’s reasonable results that should be looked at, not necessarily the effect. If anything, there’s more a case for some kind of discipline for perhaps making it worse in the aftermath with that tweet attacking Meltzer and then if it’s true that he doubled down in his podcast (haven’t listened).
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Nov 29, 2019 23:34:40 GMT -5
Considering the effect his words had? Yes, absolutly. His initial tweets were what escalated this situation, and intention or not, someone got hurt. Do something to indicate this is being treated seriously. I feel for workplace misconduct, it’s the conduct and it’s reasonable results that should be looked at, not necessarily the effect. If anything, there’s more a case for some kind of discipline for perhaps making it worse in the aftermath with that tweet attacking Meltzer and then if it’s true that he doubled down in his podcast (haven’t listened). The reasonable result was sending a man already on the edge of a mental health crisis over the edge. That's damage that needs to be reprimanded.
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