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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 12, 2019 12:46:23 GMT -5
Deservedly so; it's just a stupid take.
He's entitled to his opinion, but people can correctly point out it's a stupid opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 13:23:25 GMT -5
Dumb as f*** tweet.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 12, 2019 13:45:26 GMT -5
Wasn't this the same guy who gave a heartfelt promo in WWE about having severe depression and being borderline suicidal?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 14:06:03 GMT -5
Tweet is not that bad, really. The Big Guy is not really attacking people in serious depression, he pointed out his thoughts pretty clear - right? It's just "inspirational" straight to face approach: # slap that porpoise and stop hittin' yourself (like a good friend would say to you...) / lil' reminder not to waste your life. Legit a good way to stop some people act like a fool/downer. Sometimes people think they're dying in thirst when there's an unlimited source of water next to them. Of course if there's death, trauma or anything else related - that's some real depression and does not need comments like that, etc. e: Wasn't this the same guy who gave a heartfelt promo in WWE about having severe depression and being borderline suicidal? I think that's exactly why he says it like that. No sugar coating.
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Post by Heinz Doofenschmirtz on Dec 12, 2019 14:51:52 GMT -5
Tweet is not that bad, really. The Big Guy is not really attacking people in serious depression, he pointed out his thoughts pretty clear - right? It's just "inspirational" straight to face approach: # slap that porpoise and stop hittin' yourself (like a good friend would say to you...) / lil' reminder not to waste your life. Legit a good way to stop some people act like a fool/downer. Sometimes people think they're dying in thirst when there's an unlimited source of water next to them. Of course if there's death, trauma or anything else related - that's some real depression and does not need comments like that, etc.The bolded part is the issue. There are people out there who have excellent lives, are surrounded by wonderful friends and family, have a great job, etc. and still have depression or anxiety. Neither of those things give a rat's ass about how good your life is, they just keep telling you how useless you are or why you shouldn't be happy. Not everyone needs to have trauma to be depressed, sometimes it's just brain chemistry. And to suggest that depression needs a cause is no differemt than saying 'Just go get some exercise, you'll feel better' and equally as demeaning.
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Post by King Boo on Dec 12, 2019 15:20:13 GMT -5
The slap on the face method isn't inspirational; it's another thing on the mental pile that makes someone feel worse.
I understand that it can be frustrating from an outside perspective, but something for others to understand is that it's also frustrating from the inside perspective too. Any time I've gotten "tough love" as I go through my own issues has only resulted in me curling inward and feeling worse. You're not helping wake me up; you're giving me another thing to feel bad about.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 15:23:02 GMT -5
As someone who lives with some one who struggles with mental health issues everyday and works so hard to cope and improve, he can straight f*** himself.
Also, implying depression is only acceptable as a response to a traumatic event is a horrendous take.
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Post by Honeybear Lyder on Dec 12, 2019 15:33:53 GMT -5
Next on Ryback's twitter: "Guys with asthma, don't be pussies and start breathing!" and "People with cancer, you attention-seeking douches, stop having cancer."
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 12, 2019 15:50:56 GMT -5
The slap on the face method isn't inspirational; it's another thing on the mental pile that makes someone feel worse. I understand that it can be frustrating from an outside perspective, but something for others to understand is that it's also frustrating from the inside perspective too. Any time I've gotten "tough love" as I go through my own issues has only resulted in me curling inward and feeling worse. You're not helping wake me up; you're giving me another thing to feel bad about. Right. You can try to hype someone up, sure, but if you try to get people to "snap out of it" on your timetable, it never works, and even if it sometimes might get your short term results, it causes longterm damage to their trust in you.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 15:53:36 GMT -5
Sure. I've been in the more "casual" depression situation, most of my adult life. Without making fun of myself, I would probably have one or two good days in a week still to this day. But I've so many plans nowadays for future, that I just see present day as "waiting time" for the bigger and better picture. Depression in many cases lasts your whole life and you kind of just deal with it. It's freakin' hard to think straight if you're stuck in same thoughts for years. I'm not speaking about rocking someones boat, but if brains don't adapt the knowledge how to get out of miserable situation in wise time, extreme opinions and measures might do the trick - if treatment, medicine or talking is not your cup of tea. Helps the Debbie (who's stuck) balance out the problems and possibilities in reality.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 12, 2019 15:56:13 GMT -5
It's a stupid tweet. None of that rah rah shit actually helps anyone who is legitimately going through depression at all. At BEST it's completely tone deaf.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 12, 2019 16:24:08 GMT -5
It's Ryback, what do you really expect? Look back to how he handled the situation with Punk, mocking a guy for needing surgery to fix problems he caused by recreating it with action figures on social media. He's proven he's a selfish, uncaring meathead empathy really isn't his strong suit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 16:27:11 GMT -5
Apparently he's blocking anyone who contests this. So, y'know, that's how one helps people these days, I guess. He's just putting in the work and changing his mindset. If people are shitting all over the dumb thing you said, block them all until everyone agrees with you. You've just made your life a more positive place. As someone who fights clinical depression on a daily basis, I sent a reply explaining how this doesn't apply to everyone and how I deal with it is more than just "putting in the work". I am my own worst critic when I fail, but I don't seek a free pass and quick pity if things don't go my way.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 12, 2019 16:33:55 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think he *might* have been implying that a lot of folks are using depression as an excuse for dumb things they say or do, or for their lack of success, hence why he had "depression" instead of just saying depression. And frankly, if that's what he meant, he has a point. I see it in everyday life all the time. People are unmotivated to do work or just feel sad about something and claim "depression", yet they are perfectly motivated to do the fun things. And that's...not how depression works. At all. (On the same token, I hate people who say "I'm so OCD!" No, Karen, having a preference for something is NOT what OCD is.)
But if he was really coming from a "Hey! Cheer up, stupid!" place then yeah, f*** him.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 14, 2019 0:02:51 GMT -5
Considering Ryback wants to make a wrestling comeback in 2020, this isn't exactly the shit he should be putting out to the world for everyone to see.
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Post by Venti on Dec 14, 2019 0:44:17 GMT -5
My depression has been 100% cured from me thanks to Ryback's tweet.
Thanks Big Guy.
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Post by 4real on Dec 14, 2019 9:10:13 GMT -5
Ryback trying to make a late claim for Time Person of the Year with that tweet. What a dumbass.
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Post by Hypnosis on Dec 14, 2019 10:38:30 GMT -5
STUPIP tweet.
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Post by Viking Hall on Dec 14, 2019 19:38:45 GMT -5
I kinda read it as a lot of people mistake the natural ebb and flow of moods and emotions as depression many of which can be improved by going outside, getting on with your day, or whatever. It's a term which has become all encompassing for feeling sad, mourning etc. which is really not what depression is.
I post this as someone who has suffered with Clinical Depression (to varying degrees of severity) since childhood and as someone who was eventually diagnosed as having mild Bipolar Disorder in their early twenties. I also post this as someone who despite this diagnosis has been told on many, many occasions by people without depression that I simply can't be depressed because I don't appear to be sad.
For all we know Ryback might be someone who does suffer with similar symptoms but like me is reasonably good at putting on a front or getting on with his day to the best of his ability.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Dec 14, 2019 19:53:05 GMT -5
It's not enough to just "suck it up and smile."
I stay busy learning new things. That keeps my depression under control.
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