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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 18, 2019 11:49:47 GMT -5
FYI
It seems like many ROH “exclusive” workers have begun taking non ROH bookings. Both Marty and Flip are booked for Northeast Wrestling in January. Also, I believe TK and Taven are advertised for the Northeast Wrestling December show.
Generally ROH has allowed “appearances” for talent, but Flip is advertised to be in action this January.
I know NEW has a close relationship with lots of AEW and ROH workers...
But I was wondering has anybody noticed ROH guys advertised to work other places?
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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 18, 2019 11:52:51 GMT -5
Actually www.northeastwrestling.com has BOTH Darby Allin AND Flip Gordon advertised to be in action in January. That on top of the Rock and Roll Express and Road Warrior Animal... Wonder if ROH has some sort of internal change heading into 2020. In the past once guys signed exclusive to ROH they were no longer allowed to be advertised to be in action... |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 11:53:19 GMT -5
Marty Scurll is on NWA Powerrr now.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Dec 18, 2019 12:35:22 GMT -5
Marty isn't exclusive, he's working without a contract
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Post by Cyno on Dec 18, 2019 12:54:37 GMT -5
Didn't Marty's ROH contract officially end this month?
ROH seems to be a lot more lax with its workers taking indie bookings, especially since they can't exactly make a career out of just wrestling for ROH.
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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 18, 2019 13:03:21 GMT -5
Marty isn't exclusive, he's working without a contract What about Flip? Taven? TK? |
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Post by Rave on Dec 18, 2019 13:17:34 GMT -5
Marty isn't exclusive, he's working without a contract What about Flip? Taven? TK? Taven, definitely. Think Flip is still under contract 'til March or April, so him too. TK is the weird one there, since he was on the firing list Mercury leaked. |
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 18, 2019 13:18:39 GMT -5
Marty isn't exclusive, he's working without a contract What about Flip? Taven? TK? Flip should be under the same contract he's been on since last year, so this does appear to be a change. I hope it is; given all the bad shit ROH/Sinclair management has been outed for this past year, this would be a nice, solid step in the right direction to do right by the talent. Would just hope they're not pulling a TNA and skimming a whole bunch off the top of their earnings. I get not having ROH contracted wrestlers appearing on AEW, Impact, MLW, etc., but there really shouldn't be much reason why they couldn't take indy dates to bring in some extra income. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 18, 2019 13:23:53 GMT -5
ROH lets its wrestlers work indies. Not anything noteworthy here, that's been standard practice for pretty much everyone for a while; how much people use it and if anyone has a baked-in 'more money for exclusivity' thing who knows, but BOLA always has a bunch of ROH guys and obviously The Bucks were working the indie grind the whole time they were with ROH. There's going to be places they can't work, but for random indies working towns, no TV deal and especially no iPPV of the sort, they can take on whatever they want.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 18, 2019 13:39:51 GMT -5
I think a lot of what ROH has allowed has been limited to PWG (see: Jeff Cobb still working there). As I recall, the Bucks weren't really doing the indy grind once they got the ROH/NJPW double contracts.
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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 18, 2019 15:42:43 GMT -5
ROH lets its wrestlers work indies. Not anything noteworthy here, that's been standard practice for pretty much everyone for a while; how much people use it and if anyone has a baked-in 'more money for exclusivity' thing who knows, but BOLA always has a bunch of ROH guys and obviously The Bucks were working the indie grind the whole time they were with ROH. There's going to be places they can't work, but for random indies working towns, no TV deal and especially no iPPV of the sort, they can take on whatever they want. You’re mistaken. This is a change. In a way I’m asking for the sake of conversation but this is not business as usual. Maybe mirroring Impact allowing workers to keep control of their other dates? |
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 18, 2019 15:51:23 GMT -5
FYI It seems like many ROH “exclusive” workers have begun taking non ROH bookings. Both Marty and Flip are booked for Northeast Wrestling in January. Also, I believe TK and Taven are advertised for the Northeast Wrestling December show. Generally ROH has allowed “appearances” for talent, but Flip is advertised to be in action this January. I know NEW has a close relationship with lots of AEW and ROH workers... But I was wondering has anybody noticed ROH guys advertised to work other places? Marty is a free agent so since the 28th if Nov. so he can do whatever he wants. The Bucks did work indies, they had matches against the Hardyz when the Hardyz where going all over the "world" to be the best tag team in the universe thing. |
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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 18, 2019 16:02:05 GMT -5
FYI It seems like many ROH “exclusive” workers have begun taking non ROH bookings. Both Marty and Flip are booked for Northeast Wrestling in January. Also, I believe TK and Taven are advertised for the Northeast Wrestling December show. Generally ROH has allowed “appearances” for talent, but Flip is advertised to be in action this January. I know NEW has a close relationship with lots of AEW and ROH workers... But I was wondering has anybody noticed ROH guys advertised to work other places? Marty is a free agent so since the 28th if Nov. so he can do whatever he wants. The Bucks did work indies, they had matches against the Hardyz when the Hardyz where going all over the "world" to be the best tag team in the universe thing. They actually headlined some Northeast Wrestling stadium shows with that match. I’m curious because ROH and AEW both have ties to Northeast Wrestling and Flip has not been able to wrestle on shows since signing with ROH. They have been allowed to do meet and greets and/or unadvertised promos but it’s interesting to see an influx of ROH guys working shows they weren’t allowed to work previously. |
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Post by eJm on Dec 18, 2019 16:54:01 GMT -5
Flip has not been able to wrestle on shows since signing with ROH. That’s not necessarily true. He wrestled an OTT show in Belfast as a replacement to Will Ospreay but that seems to be an outlier with these things. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 17:11:34 GMT -5
they might be changing because of all the bad PR from Joey Mercurygate
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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 19, 2019 6:59:04 GMT -5
Flip has not been able to wrestle on shows since signing with ROH. That’s not necessarily true. He wrestled an OTT show in Belfast as a replacement to Will Ospreay but that seems to be an outlier with these things. Wrestling outside of the US is different. Taven often tours Mexico without ROH. I’m pretty sure we’re seeing a change happening here, but we can chalk it up to business as usual if that’s what everyone insists. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 19, 2019 7:10:13 GMT -5
I think a lot of what ROH has allowed has been limited to PWG (see: Jeff Cobb still working there). As I recall, the Bucks weren't really doing the indy grind once they got the ROH/NJPW double contracts. I think they still did some shows here and there, though I am not sure how much was exclusivity, and how much was them being bone tired. I know that was a major contributing factor to the formation of AEW: they got exhausted working both ROH and NJPW, and offered various compromises that neither company was amicable to. Couple that with them enjoying setting up All In with Cody, and Tony Khan coming calling after, and AEW was an opportunity that came along when they really needed it. |
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Post by johnnyk9 on Dec 19, 2019 8:08:40 GMT -5
I’ve worked Indy shows with Rhett Titus
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Post by Chairman of the Board on Dec 21, 2019 21:04:23 GMT -5
UPDATE:
NEW owner Michael Lombardi just announced live tonight that NEW has worked a deal to use exclusive ROH talent on all shows.
Next show features
Darby Allin - AEW
Flip Gordon - ROH
TKO - ROH
Rock and Roll Express
Road Warrior Animal
And prob like 20+ other guys since it’s the Over the Top Rumble show...
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Post by ianriccaboni on Dec 21, 2019 22:27:21 GMT -5
I have a pretty boiler plate ROH deal and I can choose to do things with permission.
With that said, a big reason I am with ROH beyond loyalty and love of the company is the nice schedule for nice money. A lot of wrestlers are in that boat, as well. If you are making very, very good money, why put additional wear and tear on your body? That's one of the benefits of being signed by ROH, Impact, or AEW right now, probably the first two more so.
I kept my 9 to 5 when I signed and everyone is accommodating. I don't take outside gigs because that time at home with my wife and kids is more valuable to me than whatever anyone might pay me. Again, that is likely a common refrain you'd hear amongst the locker room. Or for guys like Taven, Dalton Castle, Lethal, Briscoes, PJ Black they do go to Mexico, Europe, Canada etc. from time to time but it has to be something worth their time that they really wanted to do.
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