The AEW Records reset in January

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Sounds like the records are just gonna reset every year. Might seem early the first time around because they started in October but imo this is good for them cause you can chalk up the first three months as an experiment with the wins and losses. Now everyone is starting with a clean slate in the new year. Some guys, especially Jungle Boy, need that, and some peoples overinflated records (BRITT BAKER) needed to be reset.

Now let's see where everyone goes from here in the new year!

[Hypnosis]

Leva Bates goes on a 10-match winning streak.

Peter Avalon still loses.  Joins Dark Order by the end of January.

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Dec 23, 2019 19:36:12 GMT -5 Hypnosis said:

Leva Bates goes on a 10-match winning streak.

Peter Avalon still loses.  Joins Dark Order by the end of January.

Big Match Leva, we can all get behind it

[HMARK Center]

Dec 23, 2019 19:36:12 GMT -5 Hypnosis said:

Leva Bates goes on a 10-match winning streak.

Peter Avalon still loses.  Joins Dark Order by the end of January.

Hey, you heard it on BTE: Peter cares about Leva. He cares! No, really!

...seriously, AEW, give us Leva saving Creeper(!) Peter from mental enslavement to the Dark Order when we finally get to Elite Crisis.

Anyway, seeing a bunch of people whining about this elsewhere because "now the matches that happened before don't matter!", which...no, that's not how things work. I can see arguing that they should do this after a particular big card at some point in the year (All Out, maybe?), but I'm seeing arguments like "MMA wouldn't do this!", as if MMA fighters have dozens to hundreds of fights a year.

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Dec 23, 2019 19:48:45 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Dec 23, 2019 19:36:12 GMT -5 Hypnosis said:

Leva Bates goes on a 10-match winning streak.

Peter Avalon still loses.  Joins Dark Order by the end of January.

Hey, you heard it on BTE: Peter cares about Leva. He cares! No, really!

...seriously, AEW, give us Leva saving Creeper(!) Peter from mental enslavement to the Dark Order when we finally get to Elite Crisis.

Anyway, seeing a bunch of people whining about this elsewhere because "now the matches that happened before don't matter!", which...no, that's not how things work. I can see arguing that they should do this after a particular big card at some point in the year (All Out, maybe?), but I'm seeing arguments like "MMA wouldn't do this!", as if MMA fighters have dozens to hundreds of fights a year.

Everything still matters. Title matches are still going to happen, you cant discredit the wins and losses of wrestlers from the last few months, it's just gonna either help or hurt some guys if they suddenly find a win or losing streak. It's almost a warning for some of them that it's not gonna be three months next time, now this is gonna eb a full year. Stars like Omega and Page already felt the sting of the records and need to be diligent. Case in point, Omega and PAC are gonna have a rubber match, and already that's gonna matter huge for both dudes now reset records. And Page well... he's gonna have an even bigger chip on his shoulder, he doesn't wanna bat .500 again.

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Dec 23, 2019 19:48:45 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Dec 23, 2019 19:36:12 GMT -5 Hypnosis said:

Leva Bates goes on a 10-match winning streak.

Peter Avalon still loses.  Joins Dark Order by the end of January.

Hey, you heard it on BTE: Peter cares about Leva. He cares! No, really!

...seriously, AEW, give us Leva saving Creeper(!) Peter from mental enslavement to the Dark Order when we finally get to Elite Crisis.

Anyway, seeing a bunch of people whining about this elsewhere because "now the matches that happened before don't matter!", which...no, that's not how things work. I can see arguing that they should do this after a particular big card at some point in the year (All Out, maybe?), but I'm seeing arguments like "MMA wouldn't do this!", as if MMA fighters have dozens to hundreds of fights a year.

AEW is not allowed to do any right, you should know this by now. If it stops being cool to complain about every little thing they do, suddenly those people won't care anymore.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

Dec 23, 2019 19:54:43 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Dec 23, 2019 19:48:45 GMT -5 HMARK Center said:

Hey, you heard it on BTE: Peter cares about Leva. He cares! No, really!

...seriously, AEW, give us Leva saving Creeper(!) Peter from mental enslavement to the Dark Order when we finally get to Elite Crisis.

Anyway, seeing a bunch of people whining about this elsewhere because "now the matches that happened before don't matter!", which...no, that's not how things work. I can see arguing that they should do this after a particular big card at some point in the year (All Out, maybe?), but I'm seeing arguments like "MMA wouldn't do this!", as if MMA fighters have dozens to hundreds of fights a year.

Everything still matters. Title matches are still going to happen, you cant discredit the wins and losses of wrestlers from the last few months, it's just gonna either help or hurt some guys if they suddenly find a win or losing streak. It's almost a warning for some of them that it's not gonna be three months next time, now this is gonna eb a full year. Stars like Omega and Page already felt the sting of the records and need to be diligent. Case in point, Omega and PAC are gonna have a rubber match, and already that's gonna matter huge for both dudes now reset records. And Page well... he's gonna have an even bigger chip on his shoulder, he doesn't wanna bat .500 again.

My understanding is that the previous season's win/loss records are still going to warrant consideration for the next few rounds of rankings, as Cody's 6-3-1 record is still going to be more impressive than Brandon Cutler's 0-5 record, even if Cutler were to win on the first week's worth of shows and Cody does not.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

I hope that they at least acknowledge career records occasionally alongside these seasonal records... Because that's what this is, it's the new AEW season, everyone starting from 0-0-0.

[Yamashita Enforcement Division]

There is no way that they don't. It has been pretty clear the focus on records has been a part of Cody's (and to a lesser extent I guess TK and the rest of the office) love affair with College Football. The AEW Top Five is 100% the Coaches Poll and of course they are going to play with things like the life-time record against each other to play into longer term stories.

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Resetting is absolutely the right call, but I feel like resetting after three months is just doing it too early for it to have really meant anything. Probably would reset in May when the company actually started or October when Dynamite did.

[David-Arquette was in WCW 2000]

Seems a bit pointless resetting them after a few months. I see why they would want to, just seems a bit soon.

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Dec 24, 2019 11:02:51 GMT -5 David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 said:

Seems a bit pointless resetting them after a few months. I see why they would want to, just seems a bit soon.

I believe the general idea is if they do this every January 1st, then logically, any wrestler who had a crap year can hopefully look to the following year and try their luck again. Essentially a new season, which in theory should mean they would have to make the final Dynamite of the year a Championship Game between the people with the best records if we're gonna be this superfluous. It just seems pointless since AEW just began their TV show in October, which is how they've had the majority of their matches factor into the standings, but the company has been running shows since Double or Nothing.

[Oh Cry Me a Screwball]

They are pushing January 1st as the anniversary of AEW's existence, so for that to be the company's reset point, they either have to do a short period to start, or wait until next January to finally do a reset, so I get why they are doing it, even if they don't need a reset yet.

[Mozenrath]

I was thinking it'd reset at Double or Nothing, to make it annual there, but I can live with this easily. Also gives a lot of teams like Jurassic Express and Private Party a new lease on things.

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An official statement from AEW and clarification on how the rankings will work!

[Tenshigure]

Yeah...I can't say I like the January 1st reset date thing, especially considering doing it during a marquee event would make more sense from a storyline purpose. Having them reset the rankings halfway between shows (in this case, Full Gear / Revolution) would throw the "#1 Contender" storylines completely out the window if they're being built up in any way, making the need to have the contenders have more predictable wins to retain the story being told up to that point.

Would make more sense to do it after All Out / DoN / whatever, so they could treat it as a proper "Season Finale," complete with story endings and allows fresh character introductions without feeling shoehorned in during random January shows. If they ran something similar to a Wrestle Kingdom / New Year's Dash I could see that, but then I don't see AEW running competing shows around that time, especially since one as beloved as WK (quite frankly it'd lose that matchup with me because WK is often my favorite wrestling shows of the year).

[Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby]

Dec 27, 2019 11:51:40 GMT -5 Tenshigure said:

Yeah...I can't say I like the January 1st reset date thing, especially considering doing it during a marquee event would make more sense from a storyline purpose. Having them reset the rankings halfway between shows (in this case, Full Gear / Revolution) would throw the "#1 Contender" storylines completely out the window if they're being built up in any way, making the need to have the contenders have more predictable wins to retain the story being told up to that point.

Well, if this year is any indication, they are careful to make sure that there are clear #1 contenders set for when the reset happens. Two out of three titles have a named contender for the next defense, and it would be easy to give Mox a shot with no further matches due to him going a "season" with no losses.

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Dec 27, 2019 11:51:40 GMT -5 Tenshigure said:

Yeah...I can't say I like the January 1st reset date thing, especially considering doing it during a marquee event would make more sense from a storyline purpose. Having them reset the rankings halfway between shows (in this case, Full Gear / Revolution) would throw the "#1 Contender" storylines completely out the window if they're being built up in any way, making the need to have the contenders have more predictable wins to retain the story being told up to that point.

Would make more sense to do it after All Out / DoN / whatever, so they could treat it as a proper "Season Finale," complete with story endings and allows fresh character introductions without feeling shoehorned in during random January shows. If they ran something similar to a Wrestle Kingdom / New Year's Dash I could see that, but then I don't see AEW running competing shows around that time, especially since one as beloved as WK (quite frankly it'd lose that matchup with me because WK is often my favorite wrestling shows of the year).

But two contenders are already decided in Statlander/Riho and PNP/SCU. Moxley vs Jericho seems all but set in stone and AEW literally said the past records will matter when resets happen

This doesn't affect the build at all for Revolution in terms of who can be built up.

[KofiMania]

I’m not sure of the long-term viability of the records concept. I like the rankings system (as long as they stick to following the rankings when awarding title matches) but if the records reset every January but the past records still count so the records are both cumulative and year to year, and the records matter when it comes to rankings but strength of opponent and victory matters as well (but is not explained), it just seems like it’s too convoluted to make a difference.

[Dub H]

Dec 28, 2019 12:55:22 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

I’m not sure of the long-term viability of the records concept. I like the rankings system (as long as they stick to following the rankings when awarding title matches) but if the records reset every January but the past records still count so the records are both cumulative and year to year, and the records matter when it comes to rankings but strength of opponent and victory matters as well (but is not explained), it just seems like it’s too convoluted to make a difference.

I think it is pretty clear that the all time records is just for trivia/accolades sake.The yearly records are what matters for title shots.

Still,I would rather just have the yearly ones.Sometimes less is more