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Post by willywonka666 on Dec 27, 2019 15:30:31 GMT -5
Stick with me here. Just for the sake of the thread, what if the E did a total reset? Go away for a bit and came back and everyone is subject to a reboot-appearance, gimmick, face/heel, titles. All starts over. Same goes for the feel of the federation. Commentary, backstage. Everything is possible to be remade. The past is the past of course and will be saluted at Wrestlemania, but that’s about it.
How would you like to see superstars and the promotion to be if anything could truly happen?
What could be changed that would interest you, or be best for the company in your eyes of everything was up for grabs?
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Post by XIII on Dec 27, 2019 17:57:10 GMT -5
Sin Cara is repackaged as a wrestling plunger with a rubber plunger on top of his mask.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 18:44:24 GMT -5
Sin Cara is repackaged as a wrestling plunger with a rubber plunger on top of his mask. Sin Cara is repackaged as a 1940s daredevil driver who keeps getting into accidents, allowing them to splice old timey crash footage. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Dec 27, 2019 18:48:02 GMT -5
It would be exciting at first but I can’t see it not settling into the same rut within a week.
Repackaged gimmicks or characters aside the fact the matches and titles have no real meaning and blood feuds are seemingly forgiven and forgotten about. We might have fresh new characters but we’d still have the same guys fighting for the same titles a hundred times over
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 27, 2019 19:16:19 GMT -5
Stick with me here. Just for the sake of the thread, what if the E did a total reset? Go away for a bit and came back and everyone is subject to a reboot-appearance, gimmick, face/heel, titles. All starts over. Same goes for the feel of the federation. Commentary, backstage. Everything is possible to be remade. The past is the past of course and will be saluted at Wrestlemania, but that’s about it. How would you like to see superstars and the promotion to be if anything could truly happen? What could be changed that would interest you, or be best for the company in your eyes of everything was up for grabs? DC Comics tried it in 2011, and it failed miserably. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 19:21:53 GMT -5
Given their entire business model is based around using nostalgia as a desperate bid to make people care for the big shows in between the day to day being a lifeless, joyless slog that sounds like about the worst possible thing they could do.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 21:27:44 GMT -5
Why do they have to “go away” to do a reset?
They could just get rid of Raw and Smackdown, make a new show. Have only 4 titles (WWE, IC, Tag and Women’s) and change the appearance/commentary/camera angles etc and it would feel new.
Look at NXT for example.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 27, 2019 21:34:42 GMT -5
Within 2 weeks it would look exactly the same as it does now.
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Post by eJm on Dec 27, 2019 21:39:51 GMT -5
Stick with me here. Just for the sake of the thread, what if the E did a total reset? Go away for a bit and came back and everyone is subject to a reboot-appearance, gimmick, face/heel, titles. All starts over. Same goes for the feel of the federation. Commentary, backstage. Everything is possible to be remade. The past is the past of course and will be saluted at Wrestlemania, but that’s about it. How would you like to see superstars and the promotion to be if anything could truly happen? What could be changed that would interest you, or be best for the company in your eyes of everything was up for grabs? DC Comics tried it in 2011, and it failed miserably. I mean, it did REALLY well for them at the start. Some of the best sales they had done in years at the time and were easily kicking Marvel’s ass. After the shine had come off? Yeah, that’s when it wasn’t as hot. But to call it a failure from the off isn’t true. |
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 27, 2019 22:02:12 GMT -5
DC Comics tried it in 2011, and it failed miserably. I mean, it did REALLY well for them at the start. Some of the best sales they had done in years at the time and were easily kicking Marvel’s ass. After the shine had come off? Yeah, that’s when it wasn’t as hot. But to call it a failure from the off isn’t true. True but New 52 was a Half Ass reboot anyway. Hal was Parallax, yet no Zero Hour? Huh? |
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Post by eJm on Dec 27, 2019 22:03:39 GMT -5
I mean, it did REALLY well for them at the start. Some of the best sales they had done in years at the time and were easily kicking Marvel’s ass. After the shine had come off? Yeah, that’s when it wasn’t as hot. But to call it a failure from the off isn’t true. True but New 52 was a Half Ass reboot anyway. Hal was Parallax, yet no Zero Hour? Huh? Oh no, the execution was a mess no disagreement there. But sales wise, it wasn’t a failure. It became one, big difference. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 22:03:49 GMT -5
DC Comics tried it in 2011, and it failed miserably. I mean, it did REALLY well for them at the start. Some of the best sales they had done in years at the time and were easily kicking Marvel’s ass. After the shine had come off? Yeah, that’s when it wasn’t as hot. But to call it a failure from the off isn’t true. Granted the early success of the New 52 has kind of poisoned both companies, because they both - moreso Marvel - since have been doing constant retools trying to recapture some of that success. |
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Post by Wieners=$$$ on Dec 27, 2019 22:19:46 GMT -5
If the reboot meant changing modern-wrestler's names and gimmicks to those from the past, I could see Vince going for it.
Seth Rollins would come out to "Real-American," wearing yellow and red, and sporting a blond-skullet. Roman Reigns will now be known as the Junkyard Dog.
Braun Strowman has an underdog gimmick and is called Barry Horowitz.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 22:58:27 GMT -5
No thanks, I'd rather they just write better tv shows. The gimmicks people have isn't the problem, it's that they don't interact in interesting and exciting ways.
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 28, 2019 3:24:06 GMT -5
Isn’t every draft somewhat of a reset?
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Dec 28, 2019 4:38:49 GMT -5
Isn’t every draft somewhat of a reset? This last one was supposed to be but when most of the rosters went back to the same brand, didn't really matter. Or before that they had the Mcmahons and HHH said we hear the fans and they matter speech for the other reset that well was nothing different happened. |
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Post by thechase on Dec 28, 2019 5:06:32 GMT -5
I mean, it did REALLY well for them at the start. Some of the best sales they had done in years at the time and were easily kicking Marvel’s ass. After the shine had come off? Yeah, that’s when it wasn’t as hot. But to call it a failure from the off isn’t true. Granted the early success of the New 52 has kind of poisoned both companies, because they both - moreso Marvel - since have been doing constant retools trying to recapture some of that success. DC aren't doing too badly at the moment, Bendis' Wonder Comics imprint is the best thing about it right now, it's just Didio's mass obsession with bleakness and edgelord pandering that is tainting the rest of the rebirth era. Marvel in the meantime realised the "All-Different" approach didn't work, sacked their previous editor, and are producing fun comics again. |
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Post by CeilingFan on Dec 28, 2019 6:44:15 GMT -5
DC Comics tried it in 2011, and it failed miserably. I mean, it did REALLY well for them at the start. Some of the best sales they had done in years at the time and were easily kicking Marvel’s ass. After the shine had come off? Yeah, that’s when it wasn’t as hot. But to call it a failure from the off isn’t true. I am just glad that "Convergence" restored some of the old continuity. |
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Post by nisidhe on Dec 28, 2019 9:15:55 GMT -5
The only circumstance under which a reboot could succeed might be if there was a change at the top - Vince dies or is incapacitated, there's been a takeover of the company - basically, a reboot of the company structure itself that might justify the sudden (or not so sudden) change in creative direction.
Every other time that there has been a high-profile total reboot of a wrestling promotion (think WCW in 2000 and TNA more times than I remember), it has either accompanied or preceded a downward slide for that promotion, taking some time for the promotion to recover (time, by the way, which WCW didn't even have.)
That said, there have been reboots of a sort in WWE, perhaps most notably in 1992. The business as a whole was flagging - territories were dropping like flies; WCW was focused in Georgia by then; Vince himself was on trial over steroid distribution. You wouldn't necessarily have called it a reboot at the time, but it was clear that the focus was shifting away from the oversized, over-the-top personalities with the lifestyles to match and onto the smaller, more proficient talents that were able to create good matches and tell compelling stories in the ring. If you had told anyone outside the company in January 1992 that Bret Hart, of all people, would be its world champ by the end, nobody would have believed you. And yet, not only was he champ, but was already making his own mark on that title's history.
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