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Post by Alice Syndrome on Dec 31, 2019 5:00:53 GMT -5
How do 2 people with leg submission finishers always manage to suck at ring psychology when they face eachother?
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 31, 2019 6:35:06 GMT -5
What even is Charlotte's alignment right now? That whole segment registered like she's heel again but... I have no idea why she would be? I guess to be fair she just showed up one week going, "Hi, I'm face now!" so you might as well also do it the other way around too but still. Charlotte turned into the Big Show of the women's division so gradually we didn't even notice.
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Post by schma on Dec 31, 2019 6:47:39 GMT -5
What even is Charlotte's alignment right now? That whole segment registered like she's heel again but... I have no idea why she would be? I guess to be fair she just showed up one week going, "Hi, I'm face now!" so you might as well also do it the other way around too but still. Charlotte turned into the Big Show of the women's division so gradually we didn't even notice. It was probably more that there have been so many female Big Shows we didn't notice. The Bellas, Natalya, Alicia Fox just to name a few.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Dec 31, 2019 6:50:34 GMT -5
Natalya is the worst. They want her to be some Cesaro like figure who never achieves anything but they can wheel out when they run out of ideas and can have great one off matches with anyone and make them look awesome cos he's awesome too but she just sucks and both end up looking worse.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2019 7:15:22 GMT -5
Natalya always has to have long, drawn out, 20 minute matches, and whoever books her like that needs to be shot out of a cannon into a cactus pit. Nattie's had some decent matches over the years (the falls count anywhere against Nikki Bella being one that stands out), but most of the time I'm wondering what her appeal is. Nice person and all, but man do I find her boring. She’s nice,she’s a good solider,she was one of the only real wrestlers during the model era so they relied on her to be a mother hen while trying to salvage train wrecks and she might be related to Bret Hart. I really do feel that working models for so long caused her to regress cause alot of times to this day she looks like she’s wrestling in slow motion.She’s had a handful of good matches over her wwe career but since the women’s revolution she’s pretty much a guarantee to underperform when put in the spotlight.
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Post by sunnytaker on Dec 31, 2019 9:16:41 GMT -5
What even is Charlotte's alignment right now? That whole segment registered like she's heel again but... I have no idea why she would be? I guess to be fair she just showed up one week going, "Hi, I'm face now!" so you might as well also do it the other way around too but still. see I never really felt she was a face since she's been on RAW. granted since they tried keeping her an becky apart title-wise and there was no other face on the roster for charlotte to feud with she just kinda floated around doing the "Queen" thing, until she started teaming up with random people against the kabuki warriors before finally getting becky involved as well, while they both claimed to not like/trust the other because wwe realized they ran out of legitimate threats for becky to fight for the title so they both got thrown in against the heel kabuki warriors to build the asuka/becky title program. this leaves charlotte back in the "no one really around to feud with" territory again. but she never actually turned to begin with. in a way it's almost like a watered down Austin heel/face turn- acted pretty much the same way but now targeted faces/heels. in fact I think her last two face turns have been. 1) "now having been drafted to smackdown, after I swerved everyone by announcing Tamina, but before I became the BEST...In THE WOOOOOOOOOOORLD!- here's charlotte!" (crowd cheers, charlotte now a face despite doing nothing to become one other than showing up 2) "RAW has drafted Charlotte!" (crowd cheers, charlotte now a face despite doing nothing to become one other than showing up)
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 31, 2019 9:32:01 GMT -5
What even is Charlotte's alignment right now? That whole segment registered like she's heel again but... I have no idea why she would be? I guess to be fair she just showed up one week going, "Hi, I'm face now!" so you might as well also do it the other way around too but still. Charlotte turned into the Big Show of the women's division so gradually we didn't even notice. Though Nattie has the Local Woman role down pat.
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Post by PKO on Dec 31, 2019 9:49:46 GMT -5
I don’t think it was a bad match at all. The problem is that both women are incredibly stale and have faced each other too many times already. That does not an exciting match make.
Charlotte would benefit greatly from some time off. Let her recharge her batteries, give the spotlight to some other women for a while, freshen her up a bit. She’s an incredible talent but she’s spinning her wheels right now.
Natalya similarly needs freshening up. A new look, different attitude. I’d put her in a tag team with a rookie, let her be a mentor figure.
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Post by schma on Dec 31, 2019 13:22:13 GMT -5
I don’t think it was a bad match at all. The problem is that both women are incredibly stale and have faced each other too many times already. That does not an exciting match make. Charlotte would benefit greatly from some time off. Let her recharge her batteries, give the spotlight to some other women for a while, freshen her up a bit. She’s an incredible talent but she’s spinning her wheels right now. Natalya similarly needs freshening up. A new look, different attitude. I’d put her in a tag team with a rookie, let her be a mentor figure. Also, get her a new signature move. That clothesline where she spins in a circle first always looks dumb. I don't know why they haven't had women just avoid it since half the time they're not even moving.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 31, 2019 13:32:22 GMT -5
It made my girlfriend want to go to bed
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Post by XIII on Dec 31, 2019 21:57:01 GMT -5
Charlotte's a great wrestler, but she doesn't click with everybody. Her main roster matches with Nattie have always bored the f*** out of me. I honestly think that Charlotte is a great wrestler in the same way that Kurt Angle was, really good in the WWE but outside of it she’ll still be really good with the right opponent but will also moonsault off of everything for no good reason and damn the psychology. Hopefully we can test my hypothesis one day, but I doubt we’ll ever truly know.
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