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Post by héad.casé on Jan 3, 2020 4:34:13 GMT -5
This week's WWE RAW overrun was a one-time thing for the wedding of Bobby Lashley and Lana, according to Dave Meltzer on Wrestling Observer Radio. WWE can always negotiate another overrun with USA Network officials for future angles, but this week's extra time does not mean it will be a regular thing moving forward. The ten-minute overrun was said to be up in viewers, and did not lose the audience. This is interesting as there are often big drops for the RAW overruns on the USA Network. WWE officials reportedly expected the wedding to go on, especially with the various twists & turns, including the surprise appearances by the returning Liv Morgan, Rusev, and the mystery spouses played by enhancement talents. The ratings for the overrun wedding angle were said to be "way up" and the creative was credited to RAW Executive Director Paul Heyman, but Vince McMahon likely had input as well. On a related note, we noted before at this link how Randy Orton did not suffer an injury at Sunday's WWE live event in Hershey, PA, as the injury angle was done for the RAW ruse that saw Orton take out AJ Styles with the RKO. Meltzer also credited Heyman with this angle. The reported idea was that Heyman wanted fans to feel like they may see something important happen in the storylines at non-televised live events. WWE live event attendance has been down, mainly due to fans feeling like the live events don't matter these days, and the company has wanted to change that for some time now. There's been a feeling that they should shoot everything good or important on TV because 3+ hours of TV is a lot of content to fill, but it looks like we may start seeing more angles that are done like this was. www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2020/01/backstage-notes-on-the-overrun-for-the-wwe-raw-wedding-664324/ |
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 3, 2020 4:38:22 GMT -5
A 3 hour show and you still need a overrun?
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Post by eJm on Jan 3, 2020 4:41:36 GMT -5
The reported idea was that Heyman wanted fans to feel like they may see something important happen in the storylines at non-televised live events. ...like someone being injured for potentially months? ...Don't think that's how that works but I'm not a galaxy brain like Paul Heyman. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 3, 2020 5:36:53 GMT -5
The reported idea was that Heyman wanted fans to feel like they may see something important happen in the storylines at non-televised live events. ...like someone being injured for potentially months? ...Don't think that's how that works but I'm not a galaxy brain like Paul Heyman. Not to mention that they just did a title change last Friday night at a house show. That kind of thing would theoretically accomplish Heyman's goal |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 6:19:47 GMT -5
The reported idea was that Heyman wanted fans to feel like they may see something important happen in the storylines at non-televised live events. ...like someone being injured for potentially months? ...Don't think that's how that works but I'm not a galaxy brain like Paul Heyman. The weirdest thing to me was that legitimate main stream news outlets were reporting Orton's injury as real. |
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 3, 2020 6:34:34 GMT -5
...like someone being injured for potentially months? ...Don't think that's how that works but I'm not a galaxy brain like Paul Heyman. The weirdest thing to me was that legitimate main stream news outlets were reporting Orton's injury as real. Title changes or face or heel turns at live events? That would help house numbers on future shows. Injuries, especially if they're being reported in the news as real by news outlets, can seriously hurt the numbers depending on who's injured. The injury-faking for an angle, similar to what we saw this past week, isn't a card that Heyman or WWE can afford to draw on a regular basis, especially if it involves lying to the mainstream press (and, through the media, the shareholders.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 6:56:13 GMT -5
Really I don't understand why they don't just run house shows on the Network. You really might as well.
Yeah, you'd need to make some adjustments to stop doing PPV main events early on them but really that shouldn't be that hard to account for.
And if it is then whatever, just take some highlights each week and put those up.
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Post by bogey316 on Jan 3, 2020 10:39:39 GMT -5
To me, a guy faking an injury which causes a match not to happen feels more like a rip off than something important happening.
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Post by Ludwig Kaiser’s Walk on Jan 3, 2020 10:43:58 GMT -5
Really I don't understand why they don't just run house shows on the Network. You really might as well. Yeah, you'd need to make some adjustments to stop doing PPV main events early on them but really that shouldn't be that hard to account for. And if it is then whatever, just take some highlights each week and put those up. I think doing highlights of house shows would be great. It would make those seem like a big deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 10:55:57 GMT -5
To me, a guy faking an injury which causes a match not to happen feels more like a rip off than something important happening. It was as great as that time when Street Profits trickstered their way hiding their mystery partner (Kevin Owens) in that six man tag @ RAW and carnied all of WWE Universe plus the OC. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 11:13:04 GMT -5
A 3 hour show and you still need a overrun? Yeah I don’t get the overrun. It made sense during the MNW when they wanted to manipulate the ratings numbers but to do it now seems pointless. |
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Jan 3, 2020 12:43:24 GMT -5
To me, a guy faking an injury which causes a match not to happen feels more like a rip off than something important happening. In my eyes if it causes an Orton match not to happen I think its value added |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 3, 2020 13:37:34 GMT -5
Really I don't understand why they don't just run house shows on the Network. You really might as well. Yeah, you'd need to make some adjustments to stop doing PPV main events early on them but really that shouldn't be that hard to account for. And if it is then whatever, just take some highlights each week and put those up. If they get cameras on them they will stop being fun. |
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Post by eJm on Jan 3, 2020 13:57:46 GMT -5
Really I don't understand why they don't just run house shows on the Network. You really might as well. Yeah, you'd need to make some adjustments to stop doing PPV main events early on them but really that shouldn't be that hard to account for. And if it is then whatever, just take some highlights each week and put those up. If they get cameras on them they will stop being fun. Pretty much. Like, the moment they agree to house shows being filmed, Vince goes “Yay! More work!” |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2020 14:22:10 GMT -5
To me, a guy faking an injury which causes a match not to happen feels more like a rip off than something important happening. In my eyes if it causes an Orton match not to happen I think its value added  Oh, you! |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Jan 3, 2020 14:28:31 GMT -5
I'm glad they did an angle at a house show in Hershey because doing a title change at MSG doesn't really send a strong message that anything can happen at a house show. It says that they'll do something big at the literal premier house show of the year. Do something in Montana or something and you'll send a message.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 3, 2020 15:18:44 GMT -5
I'm glad they did an angle at a house show in Hershey because doing a title change at MSG doesn't really send a strong message that anything can happen at a house show. It says that they'll do something big at the literal premier house show of the year. Do something in Montana or something and you'll send a message. I used to go to UK Raw or Smackdown tapings until it became clear what lame duck shows they were. Sellout houses, rabid fans. They apparently don't draw so well now but the year I stopped going AJ beat Jinder for the title. Sigh. |
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Post by nisidhe on Jan 4, 2020 9:59:50 GMT -5
Really I don't understand why they don't just run house shows on the Network. You really might as well. Yeah, you'd need to make some adjustments to stop doing PPV main events early on them but really that shouldn't be that hard to account for. And if it is then whatever, just take some highlights each week and put those up. If they get cameras on them they will stop being fun. It depends on how obtrusive the camera crews are. If they're on the level of a Raw or Smackdown taping, then yes, it will cease to be fun. If the cameras are kept to ringside (maybe a hard camera _if_ it doesn't distract the crowd) and don't force the action to play to them, then it shouldn't be an issue. WWE during the 1980s did this sort of thing all the time with few problems; that footage often played on magazine shows months later. |
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Post by David-Arquette was in WCW 2000 on Jan 5, 2020 20:09:15 GMT -5
A 3 hour show and you still need a overrun? A 3 hour show and an overrun, and now booking angles for house shows? |
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