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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 6, 2020 18:08:12 GMT -5
For all their talk, none of them are willing to put their money where their mouth is or lift a finger to aid others. Some do, but even if they do, shut the f*** up about it. Hell shut the f*** up about a lot of things. You play pretend. That’s what you do. And I’ve been acting since I was 5 and love it, consider it an art, blah blah, but it’s nice to be realistic too. Also seems like their industry needs as much work as the world does, maybe focus on that first.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jan 6, 2020 18:25:18 GMT -5
The last thing of any relevance that Gervais offered was The Office, which could be more credited to Stephen Merchant, and it isn't even really the definitive version when it comes to cultural impact. The sooner people stop hiring him to seem edgy, the better.
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JoDaNa1281
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jan 6, 2020 18:38:23 GMT -5
Here's the list of winners
Film
Best Drama: 1917
Best Musical or Comedy: Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Best Lead Actor in a Drama: Joaquin Phoenix - Joker
Best Lead Actress in a Drama: Renee Zellweger - Judy
Best Lead Actor in a Musical or Comedy: Taron Edgerton - Rocketman
Best Lead Actress in a Musical or Comedy: Awkwafina - The Farewell
Best Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture: Brad Pitt - Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Best Supporting Actress in a Motion Picture: Laura Dern - Marriage Story
Best Director: Sam Mendes - 1917
Best Screenplay: Quentin Tarantino - Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
Best Original Score: Hildur Guonadottir - Joker
Best Original Song: "(I'm Gonna) Love Me Again" - Elton John & Bernie Taupin - Rocketman
Best Animated Feature Film: Missing Link
Best Foreign Language Film: Parasite (South Korea)
Television
Best Drama Series: Succession
Best Musical or Comedy: Fleabag
Best Lead Actor in a Drama Series: Brian Cox - Succession
Best Lead Actress in a Drama Series: Olivia Colman - The Crown
Best Lead Actor in a Musical or Comedy: Ramy Youssef - Ramy
Best Lead Actress in a Musical or Comedy Series: Phoebe Waller-Bridge - Fleabag
Best Lead Actor in a Mini-Series or Television Film: Russell Crowe - The Loudest Voice
Best Lead Actress in a Mini-Series or Television Film: Michelle Williams - Fosse/Verdon
Best Supporting Actor in a Series, Mini-Series or Television Film: Stellan Skarsgard - Chernobyl
Best Supporting Actress in a Series, Mini-Series or Television Film: Patricia Arquette - The Act
Best Mini-Series or Television Film: Chernobyl
Cecil B. DeMille Award: Tom Hanks
Carol Burnett Award: Ellen DeGeneres
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 6, 2020 20:29:24 GMT -5
I thought Ricky was on-point last night. These wallies need put in their corner and made to feel the inevitability of cultural irrelevancy. Yeah that Joaquin Phoenix and his one billion dollar movie must really feel irrelevant. For all their talk, none of them are willing to put their money where their mouth is or lift a finger to aid others. Verifiably false, as even cursory research would show.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 7, 2020 2:08:16 GMT -5
Ricky Gervais slamming Hollywood people would carry more weight had he not spent the last decade and a half desperately trying to become one, accepting money from such morally upstanding companies as Apple (remember he did ads for them? m.youtube.com/watch?v=OQNDaDyV_nQ ), Comcast, Netflix, Warner Brothers, Newscorp, Universal while it was owned by GE... His problem is not that actors accept money from bad people, it's that he tried to do the same and it petered out like so many other TV comedians.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 7, 2020 4:37:56 GMT -5
Saw it on Twitter. What an odious hypocrite Gervais is. He's one of the preachiest people in showbiz, and is every bit as guilty of taking "dirty money" from companies with questionable ethical practices. And he likes to call out others, yet when he's criticised, his defense is basically 'I am rich so clearly I'm important and funny'. Seriously, he has said that to people on twitter who were discussing the idiotic things he's said about trans people without ever @ing him directly, conversations he would only ever see if he spent his time vanity searching his name to argue with critics. This popped up on my Twitter feed and it seems particularly relevant to your point:
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 7, 2020 4:50:56 GMT -5
And he likes to call out others, yet when he's criticised, his defense is basically 'I am rich so clearly I'm important and funny'. Seriously, he has said that to people on twitter who were discussing the idiotic things he's said about trans people without ever @ing him directly, conversations he would only ever see if he spent his time vanity searching his name to argue with critics. This popped up on my Twitter feed and it seems particularly relevant to your point: He's amazingly egotistical and thin skinned isn't he? It's amazing how people who base so much of their 'comedy' punching down and insulting others for actually caring are always the first to hit block. I can see him sat on set, searching himself on twitter, while funnier people are working 'Hacky am I? Repetitive, transphobic and unfunny? I identify as someone who won an award years ago for something I co-wrote! Block! That'll show them! Now where's Pilkington, I need someone to bully but it's seen as okay because I pay him!'
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 7, 2020 5:08:31 GMT -5
It was funny. They’re just jokes.
Which he said, repeatedly.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jan 7, 2020 5:49:33 GMT -5
Ricky Gervais slamming Hollywood people would carry more weight had he not spent the last decade and a half desperately trying to become one, accepting money from such morally upstanding companies as Apple (remember he did ads for them? m.youtube.com/watch?v=OQNDaDyV_nQ ), Comcast, Netflix, Warner Brothers, Newscorp, Universal while it was owned by GE... His problem is not that actors accept money from bad people, it's that he tried to do the same and it petered out like so many other TV comedians. That clip sums up his humor for me. He's always the first and loudest to laugh at his own jokes. The guy has always seemed an overrated hack.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 7, 2020 6:36:06 GMT -5
As much as Gervais is an opinionated prick and a hypocrite himself, I do enjoy him calling out Hollywood hypocrisy.
I remember when they all wore MeToo badges. Yet Meryl Streep, forefront of the MeToo movement, leapt out of her chair likr she'd sat on a hedgehog to applaud child rapist Roman Polanski.
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Post by eJm on Jan 7, 2020 7:17:59 GMT -5
As much as Gervais is an opinionated prick and a hypocrite himself, I do enjoy him calling out Hollywood hypocrisy. I remember when they all wore MeToo badges. Yet Meryl Streep, forefront of the MeToo movement, leapt out of her chair likr she'd sat on a hedgehog to applaud child rapist Roman Polanski. The problem comes that, like you said, he's a gigantic hypocrite himself and always comes off as a dude who wants to be accepted by those same people. It's literally like when HHH came out and said "Well, we're only interested in working with indies that care about the safety and care of their wrestlers" when most of the talent in the company have to pay for their own travel to shows and the word "union" might as well be a slur.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 7, 2020 7:39:53 GMT -5
As much as Gervais is an opinionated prick and a hypocrite himself, I do enjoy him calling out Hollywood hypocrisy. I remember when they all wore MeToo badges. Yet Meryl Streep, forefront of the MeToo movement, leapt out of her chair likr she'd sat on a hedgehog to applaud child rapist Roman Polanski. There are people who can make that point who aren't ginormous hypocrite bullies with skin so thin he bleeds when he's hit by a raindrop. He reminds me of an exchange from the Simpsons. Homer: From now on, I'm gonna be just like Krusty and tell it like it is. Marge, you're getting a little fat around the old thighs. Bart: Dad! Homer: You too, Bart. Marge: Oh knock it off, Homer. You're the fattest one in the car. Homer, shocked and hurt: You didn't have to tell it like it is, Marge.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 7, 2020 8:00:13 GMT -5
The last thing of any relevance that Gervais offered was The Office, which could be more credited to Stephen Merchant, and it isn't even really the definitive version when it comes to cultural impact. The sooner people stop hiring him to seem edgy, the better. The last thing he did of relevance was make people watch and talk about a lousy awards show that people would have otherwise forgotten about before it ended.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jan 7, 2020 8:41:08 GMT -5
The last thing of any relevance that Gervais offered was The Office, which could be more credited to Stephen Merchant, and it isn't even really the definitive version when it comes to cultural impact. The sooner people stop hiring him to seem edgy, the better. The last thing he did of relevance was make people watch and talk about a lousy awards show that people would have otherwise forgotten about before it ended. Ratings were the lowest they've been in 8 years, since the last time Ricky Gervais hosted.
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jan 7, 2020 10:11:23 GMT -5
The last thing he did of relevance was make people watch and talk about a lousy awards show that people would have otherwise forgotten about before it ended. Ratings were the lowest they've been in 8 years, since the last time Ricky Gervais hosted. How much buzz do these shows generate the day after? How many are still newsworthy two days afterwards? It wasn’t a groundbreaking opening monologue. I thought it was funny, and for the most part accurate regardless of who’s mouth it came out of. Hollywood celebrities do live in their own world someone calling them out for that instead of kissing up to them doesn’t seem like something that people would or should take an issue with.
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Post by eJm on Jan 7, 2020 10:16:37 GMT -5
Hollywood celebrities do live in their own world someone calling them out for that instead of kissing up to them doesn’t seem like something that people would or should take an issue with. Again, the monologue was done by a guy who kisses up to celebrities all the time. He had an entire sitcom where the entire concept was "Look at all the celebrity friends I have!" It's not so much throwing stones in glass houses, it's a dude who lives in a glass house acting like it's horrible living in a glass house.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 7, 2020 11:06:17 GMT -5
Hollywood celebrities do live in their own world someone calling them out for that instead of kissing up to them doesn’t seem like something that people would or should take an issue with. Again, the monologue was done by a guy who kisses up to celebrities all the time. He had an entire sitcom where the entire concept was "Look at all the celebrity friends I have!" It's not so much throwing stones in glass houses, it's a dude who lives in a glass house acting like it's horrible living in a glass house. And that's not even mentioning his own tendency to use his privilege, fame and influence to preach at and belittle others who don't share his beliefs on animal welfare, religion and politics. His monologue was just a more elaborate "Why don't you just stick to acting?" reply you find in every Twitter thread where a celebrity is making a comment on some hot button issue.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Jan 7, 2020 13:06:05 GMT -5
Ratings were the lowest they've been in 8 years, since the last time Ricky Gervais hosted. How much buzz do these shows generate the day after? How many are still newsworthy two days afterwards? It wasn’t a groundbreaking opening monologue. I thought it was funny, and for the most part accurate regardless of who’s mouth it came out of. Hollywood celebrities do live in their own world someone calling them out for that instead of kissing up to them doesn’t seem like something that people would or should take an issue with. Won’t soneone think of the chi-..ridiculously rich celebrities.
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Post by arrogantmodel on Jan 7, 2020 14:13:32 GMT -5
I hate when people tell celebrities and athletes to, "Just shut up and sing/act/play."
Their opinions are just as valid as everybody else's. Just because they have money and people know who they are, they're not allowed to have thoughts and feelings? As long as they're bringing attention to a cause and not being aggressive and guilt tripping you, what's the harm?
Why should anybody listen to Laura Ingraham or Rush Limbaugh? They're rich. They're well known. Where do they get off telling people to shut up? What have they done?
I say that, but at the same time, I just don't get the fascination with awards shows. Who is into watching millionaires blowing each other while wearing clothes and jewelery that cost more than my car?
If an actor I like wins something, cool good for them. Doesn't effect me in the least.
Then there's Chris "Captain America" Evans. God damn, do I want to just hang out and have drinks with him. He has to be the best celebrity/human being walking today. 😊
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Post by brown bricks on Jan 7, 2020 21:58:28 GMT -5
How much buzz do these shows generate the day after? How many are still newsworthy two days afterwards? It wasn’t a groundbreaking opening monologue. I thought it was funny, and for the most part accurate regardless of who’s mouth it came out of. Hollywood celebrities do live in their own world someone calling them out for that instead of kissing up to them doesn’t seem like something that people would or should take an issue with. Won’t soneone think of the chi-..ridiculously rich celebrities. While it is true that most celebrities are up their own asses, let us not let this fact deter us from the other fact that Ricky Gervais f***ing sucks. The man would make a middle school boy tell him to turn down the edge-lord dial.
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