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Post by Ryushinku on Jan 14, 2020 7:09:32 GMT -5
I don't care too much, because the traditionalist and precedent side of it doesn't interest me. I have a fairly vague fuzzy appreciation of the Queen and the Royal Family in general for the charitable and diplomatic work they do (and the tourism attraction), which I think quite a few people share, without being hardcore in support or against.
For this, just whatever makes Harry and Meghan happy is fine with me. They've always both come across very well and genuine. Perhaps this was a little bit of a splashy way to do things, but they're all talking it out still.
And big sections of the print media can be really vicious here, in a way that seems really oddly baffling and overboard. Until you consider the worst kind of answer to that, which is usually the sadly correct answer when it comes to xenophobic gutter trash like the Daily Mail.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 14, 2020 8:30:39 GMT -5
what a month for the Queen it's turning out to be, wonder if she is entry number 2?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jan 14, 2020 10:22:47 GMT -5
It's a big deal to Royalists and readers of the right-wing press, who are all up in arms about Harry's disrespect of his family and peddling conspiracy theories about Meghan being wanting to break up the family. The rest of us have adopted a "Good for them" opinion. Yeah, a lot of the papers doing this pretty much worship Diana, but while she was alive, she'd get similar rumours about every move she made. Almost like there was an ulterior motive about this.
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Post by JIMBOB on Jan 14, 2020 12:31:55 GMT -5
what a month for the Queen it's turning out to be, wonder if she is entry number 2? No way! With her pull backstage you know she’s got #30.
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Post by 4real on Jan 14, 2020 12:45:33 GMT -5
It's a big deal to Royalists and readers of the right-wing press, who are all up in arms about Harry's disrespect of his family and peddling conspiracy theories about Meghan being wanting to break up the family. The rest of us have adopted a "Good for them" opinion. I don’t think I could have said this any better really. They should do whatever makes them happy.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 14, 2020 12:46:32 GMT -5
There has been an orchestrated campaign of hate against Meghan by the right wing press here in the UK since the wedding. It's mainly coming from Piers Morgan, who everyone knows is a sack of shit, and Sarah Vine, the wife of British Tory politician Michael Gove, both of whom work for the Daily Mail, a notoriously scummy newspaper. ITV are also part of it, since they have constantly platformed Meghan's useless f***ing father and stepsister, the latter of which is constantly attacking Meghan. Harry has seen what the press did to his mother, and naturally wants to protect his wife and son. There was s tweet going round the other day (although as I flat out refuse to go to the Daily Mail website I don’t know if it’s 100% true but it wouldn’t surprise me) that showed pictures of Kate pregnant with her hand on her bump and the headline was something like “Kate lovingly cradles her unborn child”. Next to it was similar pictures of a pregnant Meghan with her hand on her bump and the headline was along the lines of “why can’t Meghan stop touching her bump”. twitter.com/snigskitchen/status/1216763343068942336Here's a whole thread of em.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 13:03:59 GMT -5
It's a big deal to Royalists and readers of the right-wing press, who are all up in arms about Harry's disrespect of his family and peddling conspiracy theories about Meghan being wanting to break up the family. The rest of us have adopted a "Good for them" opinion. Yeah, a lot of the papers doing this pretty much worship Diana, but while she was alive, she'd get similar rumours about every move she made. It's ghastly amazing to realize that the same media that literally drove her to her death in that Paris tunnel is even remotely revving its engines up again for another famous-type royal.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jan 14, 2020 13:23:21 GMT -5
I hate The Daily Mail so, so much
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 14, 2020 13:48:13 GMT -5
If they want to live in BC that's fine by me but they can foot their own security bills if they want to do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2020 13:52:51 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what the royal family does exactly? I thought their prime minister was the equivalent to our president, position-wise.
And please don't answer in a political way, I just want the facts of what their jobs are.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 14, 2020 13:58:48 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what the royal family does exactly? I thought their prime minister was the equivalent to our president, position-wise. Pretty much just ambassadors who hold no position within the government.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jan 14, 2020 13:58:52 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what the royal family does exactly? I thought their prime minister was the equivalent to our president, position-wise. And please don't answer in a political way, I just want the facts of what their jobs are. They're largely just figureheads. They do own a lot of land and such, thought.
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Post by BRV on Jan 14, 2020 15:12:23 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what the royal family does exactly? I thought their prime minister was the equivalent to our president, position-wise. Pretty much just ambassadors who hold no position within the government. They're basically fancy Kardashians.
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Post by SmashTV on Jan 14, 2020 15:14:10 GMT -5
Harry’s always had a rebellious streak in him, but I’ve considered both he and his brother to be quite grounded considering all they’ve been through. However, he’s putting HIS family first - not THE family - after all the unfair flack Meghan has received, and good for him. Now that he’s a father, he’s probably even more conscious of the unwanted press coverage.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 14, 2020 15:41:03 GMT -5
There has been an orchestrated campaign of hate against Meghan by the right wing press here in the UK since the wedding. It's mainly coming from Piers Morgan, who everyone knows is a sack of shit, and Sarah Vine, the wife of British Tory politician Michael Gove, both of whom work for the Daily Mail, a notoriously scummy newspaper. ITV are also part of it, since they have constantly platformed Meghan's useless f***ing father and stepsister, the latter of which is constantly attacking Meghan. Harry has seen what the press did to his mother, and naturally wants to protect his wife and son. It also shows in that the "cutesy" name for this has been Megxit. They want to paint Meghan as the Yoko Ono of the royal family who is orchestrating all this and controlling Harry like an evil puppetmaster. When Harry has never liked the tabloids after everything they did to drag his mother through the mud. I agree he likely sees what the tabloids are doing with his wife is similar to what they did to his mother only with additional racism and xenophobia and going "nope, having none of that."
Speaking of Yoko Ono, she got way too much crap for breaking up the Beatles when she had nothing to do with it. That was all Lennon's and McCartney's egos clashing finally reaching the point of no return.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 14, 2020 15:44:00 GMT -5
Can someone please explain what the royal family does exactly? I thought their prime minister was the equivalent to our president, position-wise. And please don't answer in a political way, I just want the facts of what their jobs are. The US president is the head of government and the head of state. In a constitutional monarchy like the UK, the monarch is the ceremonial head of state, and the prime minister, who is the leader of the largest party in the House of Commons (the lower house of the Britiish Parliament) is the head of government, running the country on behalf of the monarch. The main function of the royal family is to be a figurehead, above the political system and beyond party politics. This allows them to be neutral, apolitical representatives of the country as a whole rather than just a government or a party, and this makes it easier for them to be patrons of various charities and good causes withiut bringing any political baggage or associations with them.
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Post by zrowsdower on Jan 15, 2020 17:26:38 GMT -5
Do they have a GoFundMe page? I would like to give them a couple of dollars to help them get on their feet.
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Post by Cela on Jan 15, 2020 17:41:27 GMT -5
As someone who hates the idea of the Royal Family and the press they get, due to us fighting a war to not care about them, it is amusing to see people leave the cushiest job imaginable. Like winning the genetic lottery, and deciding, nope, going to become a middle manager!
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Post by Cela on Jan 15, 2020 17:45:12 GMT -5
There has been an orchestrated campaign of hate against Meghan by the right wing press here in the UK since the wedding. It's mainly coming from Piers Morgan, who everyone knows is a sack of shit, and Sarah Vine, the wife of British Tory politician Michael Gove, both of whom work for the Daily Mail, a notoriously scummy newspaper. ITV are also part of it, since they have constantly platformed Meghan's useless f***ing father and stepsister, the latter of which is constantly attacking Meghan. Harry has seen what the press did to his mother, and naturally wants to protect his wife and son. It also shows in that the "cutesy" name for this has been Megxit. They want to paint Meghan as the Yoko Ono of the royal family who is orchestrating all this and controlling Harry like an evil puppetmaster. When Harry has never liked the tabloids after everything they did to drag his mother through the mud. I agree he likely sees what the tabloids are doing with his wife is similar to what they did to his mother only with additional racism and xenophobia and going "nope, having none of that." Speaking of Yoko Ono, she got way too much crap for breaking up the Beatles when she had nothing to do with it. That was all Lennon's and McCartney's egos clashing finally reaching the point of no return.
Yes, it was all Lennon vs. McCartney, but Yoko does deserve some ridicule and slack for her art. An argument could also be made that she made Lennon a lot more annoying to the group.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 15, 2020 18:06:23 GMT -5
As someone who hates the idea of the Royal Family and the press they get, due to us fighting a war to not care about them, it is amusing to see people leave the cushiest job imaginable. Like winning the genetic lottery, and deciding, nope, going to become a middle manager! His role was always going to less than say William for example because Harry was never likely to be king. It's the press that have led him and Meghan to take this action rather than the nature of monarchy itself. As for the war, much of it was based on myth, primarily the idea that King George III was a tyrant, which he certainly wasn't. The revolution could have possibly been avoided if the British government gave the colonies self rule and taxation powers, with the proviso that they remained part of the empire and had to pay for their own defence from French and native hostility.
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