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Post by autisticgeordie on Jan 23, 2020 17:04:29 GMT -5
I get it if it's a case of Nia Jax, where she was not only botching regularly, but those botches had lead to a legitimate injury that could've been really seriously in the case of a Becky punch.
But why do fans always feel the need to jump on a wrestler who botches? Like, mistakes happen and there is not a wrestler on this planet who hasn't botched a move. As long as nobody gets hurt, why do the fans feel the need to jump down the throat of any wrestler who botches as if they would do a better job? It's a weird thing where wrestling fans seem to look forward to tearing wrestlers apart for a botch (ala those Dark Order creeper punches, like, did the poor f*** under the match really deserve to be roasted over the coals as if he was a necrophiliac??).
If we were in the position of these wrestlers, let's not act as if we'd be totally perfect or that we'd never botch? Mistakes happen and I don't get why armchair critics seem to enjoy looking for mistakes and calling out wrestlers for botching. It seems like wrestling fans just take oddly great amounts of pleasure in watching wrestlers fail or make mistakes and I don't get why?
I've got issues with my motorskills and have slight Cerebal Palsy, I can't even walk in a straight line or lift my leg up straight, so what right do I have to criticise someone like, say, Daniels for botching that Arabian Moonsault in his match with Pentagon in AEW? I've got no right because I'm uncoordinated and I'd make Steve 'Mongo' McMichael look like 1990s era Misawa.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 23, 2020 17:39:18 GMT -5
I don't think anybody jumps on a wrestler for a botch here and there. We might poke fun at it, especially if it's extra bad, but nobody thinks badly of a Christopher Daniels for one botched spot.
Now, if it happens over and over again, and a wrestler consistently botches moves and spots, then I would see that as a genuine reason for concern and ridicule. The safety and well-being of everyone involved in a spot is in everyone's hands, someone being sloppy can have serious results.
And the Dark Order guy? Come on, man. That can't even be considered a botch. That would actually bring down the standards of what can be considered a botch. That was some straight up child's play shit, the kind of punches you throw when you are wrestling with 8 year olds in a living room. You can't do shit like that, especially directly in front of the hard cam.
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Post by Jacy Derangement Syndrome on Jan 23, 2020 18:09:12 GMT -5
Botches that don't lead to awful injuries are funny and I like funny things
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 23, 2020 18:13:50 GMT -5
Because people like to chant "YOU F***ED UP!".
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Post by Viking Hall on Jan 23, 2020 19:12:21 GMT -5
Wasn't the Daniels one done on purpose to show that he's lost a step or two? Or was that just a good cover up?
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Post by warden on Jan 23, 2020 19:24:11 GMT -5
Cause it's funny
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 23, 2020 19:26:58 GMT -5
Depends on the botch and who is doing it.
Not many Bret Hart botches. A safe professional.
Not many Jericho botches. A safe professional. When he does botch, he’s inches away from death. They’re all seriously scary.
Batista every botch is more hilarious than the last.
Fans don’t want people getting hurt. Not hurting people is their job. If you’re constantly botching you suck at your job. Whether you’re a wrestler or a kid delivering the newspaper. It goes for everyone.
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Post by sportatorium on Jan 23, 2020 23:49:23 GMT -5
The same reason football fans pile on after a fumble or interception, same reason basketball fans pile on after a missed free throw or missed layup. Fans want to relate to good play and feel frustrated when the people they like mess up. The nature of sports.
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Post by Kyn on Jan 24, 2020 0:37:07 GMT -5
The same reason football fans pile on after a fumble or interception, same reason basketball fans pile on after a missed free throw or missed layup. Fans want to relate to good play and feel frustrated when the people they like mess up. The nature of sports. Or people are living vicariously through the people they watch onscreen, so it becomes "How dare you f*** that up, I wouldn't have f***ed that up."
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 24, 2020 1:55:59 GMT -5
Botches that don't lead to awful injuries are funny and I like funny things It's like how people like bloopers, or goofy stuff like people in a knight movie or something accidentally forgetting to take off their watch.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Jan 24, 2020 2:37:20 GMT -5
Not all botches are created equal.
Even with the most experienced and seasoned veterans, shit still happens, and it bothers me when people pile on guys and gals about that. Even the best wrestlers in the world are going to botch on occasion, and I think it goes without saying that it shouldn't detract from their body of work or make them a lesser talent. It's harmless.
On the other hand, inexperienced morons trying things that are way out of their depth, or doing things that are intentionally dangerous just in the name of getting "noticed", that's the kind of stuff I can't stand, and anyone who gets shit for it has it coming. I have no time for that in my pro wrestling.
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Post by malloc on Jan 24, 2020 8:39:34 GMT -5
Anyone got a picture of a pakled from startrek?
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Post by Dub H on Jan 24, 2020 9:07:19 GMT -5
Wasn't the Daniels one done on purpose to show that he's lost a step or two? Or was that just a good cover up? People are split on if it was a work or if they adapted and just used it into the storyline. I still believe yall got worked
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Post by Aceorton on Jan 24, 2020 9:59:54 GMT -5
There's a certain element of being "taken out of the match" when you see the workers slip up momentarily. Suspension of disbelief is affected. Some fans move on quickly and get back into it and don't care. Others heckle.
Also: it's just schadenfreude. Even if you're not pointing and saying "You f-d up!" you're usually thinking it for a sec.
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Post by 111111 on Jan 24, 2020 11:58:59 GMT -5
the same reason that before the internet you’ve been framed/Americas funniest home videos were a thing.
People like to laugh at funny things happening to others. It’s not that deep.
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Post by Rave on Jan 24, 2020 13:47:08 GMT -5
Keep in mind that some wrestlers see getting on Botchamania as a sort of badge of pride. Kevin Owens actually wanted an episode featuring just himself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2020 7:25:45 GMT -5
Wasn't the Daniels one done on purpose to show that he's lost a step or two? Or was that just a good cover up? People are split on if it was a work or if they adapted and just used it into the storyline. I still believe yall got worked They worked themselves into a shoot, brother.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Jan 25, 2020 11:00:24 GMT -5
It’s fun
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 25, 2020 11:28:49 GMT -5
Because when it doesn’t result in injury, it’s funny, and a lot of wrestlers have learned to lean into it.
It’s probably happened, but I can’t remember any instance of fans heckling a wrestler after they obviously got injured.
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Post by johnnyk9 on Jan 26, 2020 17:03:14 GMT -5
I hate when they do
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