hassanchop
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Post by hassanchop on Mar 29, 2020 21:03:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 22:21:51 GMT -5
My prayers and hopes for everyone who's impacted by this, knows someone who's struggling with this and those who might have it themselves. It's very serious. One person I know's friend died from it, another's family member has it, a man in my town (which is one of the only few cases apparently in my state) died from it so yeah, this is wild. I hope we all get out of it with as little impact as we can.
Dolt 45 mentioned something about hoping it's taken care of by June alongside extending the quarantine so I'm going to guess (like many of us did) that we're going to have another set of checks come out to everyone. We'll see.
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Post by Susan "Poison" Candy on Mar 29, 2020 23:07:38 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2020 23:10:09 GMT -5
Social distancing guidelines extended through April. Not unexpected due to when the guidelines originally went into effect Yeah it seems pretty likely that April and May will still be a lockdown period. Nine more weeks takes us to June 1, after 2 weeks of lockdown already in the books. I think that’s a reasonable timeline. I thought May would have been the time to re-evaluate and see where we were but unfortunately looks like the cases are going to get worse in the next 2 weeks. We just have to hope that it peaks relatively soon and then begins to stabilize and decline from there.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 29, 2020 23:25:13 GMT -5
I realize we're in the middle of it now and, quite frankly, not even close to the worst of it. I also concede that it's the right thing to do to keep this virus under some sort of check.
However, I'm concerned about the economic impact of the lockdown. I mean in terms of the fact that a lot of small businesses aren't receiving customers and a lot of people just aren't working full-stop. Bills are coming up and I'm not sure what's in this stimulus package will be enough to negate some of those negative effects.
Notice I mentioned workers and small businesses, not Wall Street. I'm very sick and tired of them and the media's insistence that our economy lives or dies on whether or not big line go up.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 29, 2020 23:34:17 GMT -5
I realize we're in the middle of it now and, quite frankly, not even close to the worst of it. I also concede that it's the right thing to do to keep this virus under some sort of check. However, I'm concerned about the economic impact of the lockdown. I mean in terms of the fact that a lot of small businesses aren't receiving customers and a lot of people just aren't working full-stop. Bills are coming up and I'm not sure what's in this stimulus package will be enough to negate some of those negative effects. Notice I mentioned workers and small businesses, not Wall Street. I'm very sick and tired of them and the media's insistence that our economy lives or dies on whether or not big line go up. There's gonna be at least one more stimulus, granted the payouts aren't gonna be enough to help a lot of people. And most states have halted evictions, and shutoffs during this. Some have even said that any penalties for a late or missing payment are not allowed. But I guarantee you that there's going to be a massive demand for a Universal Basic Income, this has woke quite a few people up to the fact that workers were getting paid shit. There's also gonna be a bigger demand for Medicare for All, or a Public Option. We survive this pandemic, shit is gonna have to change.
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Mochi Lone Wolf
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 30, 2020 0:44:21 GMT -5
I realize we're in the middle of it now and, quite frankly, not even close to the worst of it. I also concede that it's the right thing to do to keep this virus under some sort of check. However, I'm concerned about the economic impact of the lockdown. I mean in terms of the fact that a lot of small businesses aren't receiving customers and a lot of people just aren't working full-stop. Bills are coming up and I'm not sure what's in this stimulus package will be enough to negate some of those negative effects. Notice I mentioned workers and small businesses, not Wall Street. I'm very sick and tired of them and the media's insistence that our economy lives or dies on whether or not big line go up. There's gonna be at least one more stimulus, granted the payouts aren't gonna be enough to help a lot of people. And most states have halted evictions, and shutoffs during this. Some have even said that any penalties for a late or missing payment are not allowed. But I guarantee you that there's going to be a massive demand for a Universal Basic Income, this has woke quite a few people up to the fact that workers were getting paid shit. There's also gonna be a bigger demand for Medicare for All, or a Public Option. We survive this pandemic, shit is gonna have to change. Before all this, I was never as keen on European-style social safety nets as some others but, I now fully concede that I was wrong. We're the richest country on earth. The idea that a 45-day work stoppage becomes the difference between life and death for people is unacceptable.
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El Pollo Guerrera
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Mar 30, 2020 1:46:17 GMT -5
(heard this on the radio today, it came from a Buddhist site and it's being shared around...)
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Post by Sam Punk on Mar 30, 2020 1:49:07 GMT -5
This is the result of people making unwise decisions with their money. Most financial gurus advise people to put away 3-6 months of expenses in an emergency fund. If more people followed that advice they would be in a position of strength right now. Sure some people have legitimate excuses but it's crazy how so many people are unprepared for an emergency situation.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Mar 30, 2020 2:06:11 GMT -5
Just 8 cases today. Down to single didgets.
Can the WHO just put Taiwan in charge? Because Taiwan's CDC is nailing this.
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Post by Chrome the Sciencer on Mar 30, 2020 2:13:15 GMT -5
This is the result of people making unwise decisions with their money. Most financial gurus advise people to put away 3-6 months of expenses in an emergency fund. If more people followed that advice they would be in a position of strength right now. I can only speak for the United States here, but this is a country where nearly 80% of the workforce is living paycheck-to-paycheck. Between things like mortgage costs/rent, always increasing food costs, and health care expenses, saving multiple months worth of income is just not feasible. It's one of those things that's far easier said than done in any practical sense. Blame the stagnant wages, declining job benefits, and ever-increasing health care costs of the last 4 or so decades for that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 30, 2020 2:26:09 GMT -5
This is the result of people making unwise decisions with their money. Most financial gurus advise people to put away 3-6 months of expenses in an emergency fund. If more people followed that advice they would be in a position of strength right now. I can only speak for the United States here, but this a a country where nearly 80% of the workforce is living paycheck-to-paycheck. Between things like mortgage costs/rent, always increasing food costs, and health care expenses, saving multiple months worth of income is just not feasible. It's one of those things that's far easier said than done in any practical sense. Blame the stagnant wages, declining job benefits, and ever-increasing health care costs of the last 4 or so decades for that. Yeah, the majority of people in the US workforce CAN'T afford to save that much money... especially when one major illness or injury could literally bankrupt you no matter how much you put away. I have insurance and was in the ER for like an hour... the doctor saw me for like 5 minutes immediately knew what was wrong... and was discharged. like a few months later... I got a bill for like two thousand dollars. That is without them doing any kind of official tests, like the CAT scan they were talking about doing... I was literally charged that much for walking in the door. heaven forbid if I needed to be admitted... I can only imagine what that would be.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Mar 30, 2020 2:28:41 GMT -5
This is the result of people making unwise decisions with their money. Most financial gurus advise people to put away 3-6 months of expenses in an emergency fund. If more people followed that advice they would be in a position of strength right now. Sure some people have legitimate excuses but it's crazy how so many people are unprepared for an emergency situation. No it's not. And financial gurus can advise whatever they want, doesn't mean people can magically choose to follow that advice or not.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Mar 30, 2020 4:31:07 GMT -5
I can only speak for the United States here, but this a a country where nearly 80% of the workforce is living paycheck-to-paycheck. Between things like mortgage costs/rent, always increasing food costs, and health care expenses, saving multiple months worth of income is just not feasible. It's one of those things that's far easier said than done in any practical sense. Blame the stagnant wages, declining job benefits, and ever-increasing health care costs of the last 4 or so decades for that. Yeah, the majority of people in the US workforce CAN'T afford to save that much money... especially when one major illness or injury could literally bankrupt you no matter how much you put away. I have insurance and was in the ER for like an hour... the doctor saw me for like 5 minutes immediately knew what was wrong... and was discharged. like a few months later... I got a bill for like two thousand dollars. That is without them doing any kind of official tests, like the CAT scan they were talking about doing... I was literally charged that much for walking in the door. heaven forbid if I needed to be admitted... I can only imagine what that would be. And those people living paycheck to paycheck are told by way too many to get a "real" job, when they bring up how little they're getting paid, and how they don't have benefits. But somehow those jobs that aren't "real" are considered essential during a pandemic. Not a "real" job, but essential as everything else is closed down, a job that's requiring them to interact with people, and possibly get infected. Look at what happens to McDonald's workers every single time they make demands for better pay, they're told their jobs aren't "real" and they don't deserve that money, and they're still open during this. A lot is going to have to change after this.
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Post by Sephiroth on Mar 30, 2020 4:51:49 GMT -5
Yeah, the majority of people in the US workforce CAN'T afford to save that much money... especially when one major illness or injury could literally bankrupt you no matter how much you put away. I have insurance and was in the ER for like an hour... the doctor saw me for like 5 minutes immediately knew what was wrong... and was discharged. like a few months later... I got a bill for like two thousand dollars. That is without them doing any kind of official tests, like the CAT scan they were talking about doing... I was literally charged that much for walking in the door. heaven forbid if I needed to be admitted... I can only imagine what that would be. And those people living paycheck to paycheck are told by way too many to get a "real" job, when they bring up how little they're getting paid, and how they don't have benefits. But somehow those jobs that aren't "real" are considered essential during a pandemic. Not a "real" job, but essential as everything else is closed down, a job that's requiring them to interact with people, and possibly get infected. Look at what happens to McDonald's workers every single time they make demands for better pay, they're told their jobs aren't "real" and they don't deserve that money, and they're still open during this. A lot is going to have to change after this. I'm going to refer you to a YouTube channel called Renegade Cut, particularly the video where he analyzes, of all things, The Simpson's episode Homer's Enemy. He does a pretty in depth breakdown of how the one-shot character Frank Grimes represents the cult of work fallacy and all the contradictions that go along with it.
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Post by eJm on Mar 30, 2020 5:50:14 GMT -5
Just to give you an update from my neck of the woods...
From this past Saturday until the 19th April we’re on an almost complete country shutdown with the only places being needed to open are supermarkets, restaurants that can adapt as takeaways and pharmacies.
I’ve been at my parent’s place since the start of March and have barely left so I’m...still here until at least then. But as a civil servant and with my office closed anyway for the two weeks at least, I’m still getting paid the same weekly wage as I am now.
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Post by Fake Jesus on Mar 30, 2020 6:15:42 GMT -5
This is the result of people making unwise decisions with their money. Most financial gurus advise people to put away 3-6 months of expenses in an emergency fund. If more people followed that advice they would be in a position of strength right now. Sure some people have legitimate excuses but it's crazy how so many people are unprepared for an emergency situation. Folks, there it is - you just had to follow the gurus. Remember that when you're spending all of your income on gas, bills, and food, you're in a Position Of Weakness. All you need to do is starve on bread and soy sauce for a few months and properly apply your pathetic pay packet as per the instructions of the gurus and you'll be in a Position Of Strength.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Mar 30, 2020 6:29:28 GMT -5
In slightly good news, my uncle seems to be doing a little better. He "only coughed for half an hour yesterday".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2020 6:30:37 GMT -5
The Gurus of Greatness, Shamans of Covid-19...
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Post by kingoftheindies on Mar 30, 2020 6:31:00 GMT -5
Social distancing guidelines extended through April. Not unexpected due to when the guidelines originally went into effect Yeah it seems pretty likely that April and May will still be a lockdown period. Nine more weeks takes us to June 1, after 2 weeks of lockdown already in the books. I think that’s a reasonable timeline. I thought May would have been the time to re-evaluate and see where we were but unfortunately looks like the cases are going to get worse in the next 2 weeks. We just have to hope that it peaks relatively soon and then begins to stabilize and decline from there. I have long worked under the assumption that you would see a steady rise during the social distancing based on how long it takes tests to get back. Then with recovery things would slowly drop or flatten. I think you'll see things for a majority of the country start to or at least try to normalize in May. Things are not too bad here. I just really need a hair cut
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