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Post by Steveweiser on Jun 7, 2020 4:53:52 GMT -5
MLB are awful at marketing their stars. Mike Trout should be a mega star right now, and he plays in (or near to) a big market, yet hardly anyone who doesn't follow the sport at a hardcore level is aware of him. No wonder they're making a balls-up of finding a way to get a season going. I reckon they'll settle on somewhere around 82 games from around August-ish.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 7, 2020 6:20:34 GMT -5
MLB are awful at marketing their stars. Mike Trout should be a mega star right now, and he plays in (or near to) a big market, yet hardly anyone who doesn't follow the sport at a hardcore level is aware of him. No wonder they're making a balls-up of finding a way to get a season going. I reckon they'll settle on somewhere around 82 games from around August-ish. Trout doesn't really want to market himself. So him not being a mainstream star, isn't all on MLB. Trout's happy playing the game, hanging with teammates, having a couple of endorsements, and following all things weather. That's why to most people Bryce Harper is the face of the game. He markets himself, he wants to be front and center, he wants to be the megastar. Not everybody wants to be that. Trout's the best player of the generation, and when all is said and done, may be the best to ever play, but he seems happy not being the huge megastar of baseball. Trout shouldn't be blamed for it, like some have blamed him.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 7, 2020 7:39:35 GMT -5
As much as I blame baseball's incompetent leadership, they aren't to blame for Trout not being a mainstream star. He neither tries to be, nor has the personality to be that. At one point in time, the NBA's best player was Hakeem Olajuwon. Last year it was Kawhi. Neither of them are/were mainstream stars. The NHL has Connor McDavid who is unanimously their best player and athlete. But since he, like many hockey players, has the personality of a single paper plate, he's not a household name. Being a great athlete does not automatically make you a potential star.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2020 8:23:48 GMT -5
I blame Mike Trout as well as MLB. I've been saying this for years. Yes, MLB should be putting their machine behind him greatly but Trout also doesn't do anything himself to market himself. Even Kawhi f***ing Leonard does stuff, chill with his teammates and they post it on social media and has his own shoe commercial
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 9:20:49 GMT -5
Trout’s lack of post season appearances (or team success in general) is a huge reason he’s not a bigger star as well. MLB gets its most national viewership during the playoffs, and if he’s never there, then it’s going to be hard for him to be seen on a bigger stage. No one outside of Anaheim cares about the Angels, and even in LA they are second fiddle to the Dodgers, so it’s not like people will go out of their way to watch Angels games.
Trout clearly just wants to play baseball, make money, be a family man, live in LA, and be away from the spotlight. That’s cool. That’s basically Kawhi in a nutshell. The difference is Kawhi is always on deep playoff runs when he’s healthy, has won finals MVP twice, and has somehow made being introverted as his marketing appeal. Trout is a great player on bad/average teams every year. He’s also in a sport that is more popular regionally than nationally. Then there's the league. MLB’s biggest weakness by far under Manfred is marketing the game and the players. Mix those two things together, and it’s a horrible match. The player and the league have to be on the same page, and I don’t think that’s ever going to happen with the current leadership.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 7, 2020 10:46:30 GMT -5
Trout’s lack of post season appearances (or team success in general) is a huge reason he’s not a bigger star as well. MLB gets its most national viewership during the playoffs, and if he’s never there, then it’s going to be hard for him to be seen on a bigger stage. No one outside of Anaheim cares about the Angels, and even in LA they are second fiddle to the Dodgers, so it’s not like people will go out of their way to watch Angels games. Trout clearly just wants to play baseball, make money, be a family man, live in LA, and be away from the spotlight. That’s cool. That’s basically Kawhi in a nutshell. The difference is Kawhi is always on deep playoff runs when he’s healthy, has won finals MVP twice, and has somehow made being introverted as his marketing appeal. Trout is a great player on bad/average teams every year. He’s also in a sport that is more popular regionally than nationally. Then there's the league. MLB’s biggest weakness by far under Manfred is marketing the game and the players. Mix those two things together, and it’s a horrible match. The player and the league have to be on the same page, and I don’t think that’s ever going to happen with the current leadership. I don't buy that postseason theory at all. Bryce still hasn't won a playoff series and is the most popular crossover star. How many times did Griffey's team make the playoffs and he was the most marketable player of the 90s. Ripken? Piazza? Dudes like Jeter and Ortiz have long lists of postseason accomplishments, but they are also the HOF players with loads of charisma in giant media markets where people are going to get beat over the head with them regardless. The Astros have had the most postseason success lately, and nobody they have is anywhere near the stratosphere Bryce is in. The postseason matters to baseball fans more than it matters to the mainstream. Ben Zobrist won the MVP in the WS, but late night shows still call and ask for Kris Bryant 10 times out of 10. MadBum is maybe the most accomplished/clutch player active in the league, and how many commercials does he do? Kawhi is also probably the 15th or 20th most marketable player in his sport, like Trout. He has deals because his sport is 100x more popular and built on individual marketing deals. Major shoe companies don't shell out big money for you and then NOT market you themselves. The player is the brand in a way that only really NFL QBs compare in NA sports.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 7, 2020 11:05:50 GMT -5
Trout’s lack of post season appearances (or team success in general) is a huge reason he’s not a bigger star as well. MLB gets its most national viewership during the playoffs, and if he’s never there, then it’s going to be hard for him to be seen on a bigger stage. No one outside of Anaheim cares about the Angels, and even in LA they are second fiddle to the Dodgers, so it’s not like people will go out of their way to watch Angels games. Trout clearly just wants to play baseball, make money, be a family man, live in LA, and be away from the spotlight. That’s cool. That’s basically Kawhi in a nutshell. The difference is Kawhi is always on deep playoff runs when he’s healthy, has won finals MVP twice, and has somehow made being introverted as his marketing appeal. Trout is a great player on bad/average teams every year. He’s also in a sport that is more popular regionally than nationally. Then there's the league. MLB’s biggest weakness by far under Manfred is marketing the game and the players. Mix those two things together, and it’s a horrible match. The player and the league have to be on the same page, and I don’t think that’s ever going to happen with the current leadership. I don't buy that postseason theory at all. Bryce still hasn't won a playoff series and is the most popular crossover star. How many times did Griffey's team make the playoffs and he was the most marketable player of the 90s. Ripken? Piazza? Dudes like Jeter and Ortiz have long lists of postseason accomplishments, but they are also the HOF players with loads of charisma in giant media markets where people are going to get beat over the head with them regardless. The Astros have had the most postseason success lately, and nobody they have is anywhere near the stratosphere Bryce is in. The postseason matters to baseball fans more than it matters to the mainstream. Ben Zobrist won the MVP in the WS, but late night shows still call and ask for Kris Bryant 10 times out of 10. MadBum is maybe the most accomplished/clutch player active in the league, and how many commercials does he do? Kawhi is also probably the 15th or 20th most marketable player in his sport, like Trout. He has deals because his sport is 100x more popular and built on individual marketing deals. Major shoe companies don't shell out big money for you and then NOT market you themselves. The player is the brand in a way that only really NFL QBs compare in NA sports. Yea, post season success is not the end all be all. It would help him of course if he was in the post season but dude doesn't market himself. Where is his ESPN commercials? Give me a commercial that isn't the generic Gatorade commercial. As I said before it is not like you have to be some social media darling to get attention. Aaron Judge is odee lowkey but playing with the Yankees, his HR derby performance is still played and he has Pepsi as a sponsor I've seen Zion in more commercials this year then i've seen Trout in over the last 5 and Zion is a rookie. I pointed this out before with Mahomes. He doesn't have a real personality and they've already made fun of him for sounding like Kermit but marketing got smart and used that to their advantage. A simple ketchup commercial and Head and Shoulders which also took Troy Polamalu (another guy without too much personality) and used that to their advantage. Get Trout a car commercial. Get him doing a chocolate milk commercial or something
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 11:18:45 GMT -5
Trout’s lack of post season appearances (or team success in general) is a huge reason he’s not a bigger star as well. MLB gets its most national viewership during the playoffs, and if he’s never there, then it’s going to be hard for him to be seen on a bigger stage. No one outside of Anaheim cares about the Angels, and even in LA they are second fiddle to the Dodgers, so it’s not like people will go out of their way to watch Angels games. Trout clearly just wants to play baseball, make money, be a family man, live in LA, and be away from the spotlight. That’s cool. That’s basically Kawhi in a nutshell. The difference is Kawhi is always on deep playoff runs when he’s healthy, has won finals MVP twice, and has somehow made being introverted as his marketing appeal. Trout is a great player on bad/average teams every year. He’s also in a sport that is more popular regionally than nationally. Then there's the league. MLB’s biggest weakness by far under Manfred is marketing the game and the players. Mix those two things together, and it’s a horrible match. The player and the league have to be on the same page, and I don’t think that’s ever going to happen with the current leadership. I don't buy that postseason theory at all. Bryce still hasn't won a playoff series and is the most popular crossover star. How many times did Griffey's team make the playoffs and he was the most marketable player of the 90s. Ripken? Piazza? Dudes like Jeter and Ortiz have long lists of postseason accomplishments, but they are also the HOF players with loads of charisma in giant media markets where people are going to get beat over the head with them regardless. The Astros have had the most postseason success lately, and nobody they have is anywhere near the stratosphere Bryce is in. The postseason matters to baseball fans more than it matters to the mainstream. Ben Zobrist won the MVP in the WS, but late night shows still call and ask for Kris Bryant 10 times out of 10. MadBum is maybe the most accomplished/clutch player active in the league, and how many commercials does he do? Kawhi is also probably the 15th or 20th most marketable player in his sport, like Trout. He has deals because his sport is 100x more popular and built on individual marketing deals. Major shoe companies don't shell out big money for you and then NOT market you themselves. The player is the brand in a way that only really NFL QBs compare in NA sports. Trout's lack of success ON TOP of his introverted personality is the reason why he, without MLB's help, can't get more popular. The difference with Harper is that Bryce has an outgoing personality, and he was hyped up like the baseball version of LeBron in 2009-10. I believe there was an article about him being baseball's "Chosen One" before he was drafted. Plus the Nationals were really good with Harper, they just never won the WS. Went to the playoffs 4 times in 6 years. That's why I said earlier the last mainstream star MLB ever had is Harper. Everyone after him has not been able to have anywhere near the amount of mainstream success. Harper came into the league with hype, lived up to it (though he's no where near Trout's level), and was able to help the Phillies sell tickets and jerseys. He's the last of that breed in baseball, as of today. As far as post season success in general, you have to look at the time period. Griffey was a superstar before his team was ever good, but baseball was a lot more popular in general back then. It was easier to become a mainstream baseball star in the 80's-00's without being in the playoffs routinely, and certainly before that when they were the biggest sport in the country. Nowadays how many players aside from Bryce can get any type of mainstream publicity? Aaron Judge might be the closest one but he only started getting that during the HR derby and the Yankees becoming good again. Plus, he's on the Yankees. I see Christian Yelich on ESPN quite a bit as well, and that's only when he went to the Brewers and he started getting more shine on a better team. He was a no name in Miami (granted he got a lot better with the Brewers as well). In basketball, Zion could miss the playoffs every year, or be first round and out repeatedly, and still be a star. Baseball doesn't have that. Either you have to have a giant personality + be in the mainstream spotlight more often (playoffs), or you'll be Mike Trout. Being in the playoffs alone is not the argument here. Lots of good players make the playoffs and are not known. With Trout, he needs to make the playoffs more just so more people see him, among other factors.
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Post by sfvega on Jun 7, 2020 12:03:55 GMT -5
I don't buy that postseason theory at all. Bryce still hasn't won a playoff series and is the most popular crossover star. How many times did Griffey's team make the playoffs and he was the most marketable player of the 90s. Ripken? Piazza? Dudes like Jeter and Ortiz have long lists of postseason accomplishments, but they are also the HOF players with loads of charisma in giant media markets where people are going to get beat over the head with them regardless. The Astros have had the most postseason success lately, and nobody they have is anywhere near the stratosphere Bryce is in. The postseason matters to baseball fans more than it matters to the mainstream. Ben Zobrist won the MVP in the WS, but late night shows still call and ask for Kris Bryant 10 times out of 10. MadBum is maybe the most accomplished/clutch player active in the league, and how many commercials does he do? Kawhi is also probably the 15th or 20th most marketable player in his sport, like Trout. He has deals because his sport is 100x more popular and built on individual marketing deals. Major shoe companies don't shell out big money for you and then NOT market you themselves. The player is the brand in a way that only really NFL QBs compare in NA sports. Trout's lack of success ON TOP of his introverted personality is the reason why he, without MLB's help, can't get more popular. The difference with Harper is that Bryce has an outgoing personality, and he was hyped up like the baseball version of LeBron in 2009-10. I believe there was an article about him being baseball's "Chosen One" before he was drafted. Plus the Nationals were really good with Harper, they just never won the WS. Went to the playoffs 4 times in 6 years. That's why I said earlier the last mainstream star MLB ever had is Harper. Everyone after him has not been able to have anywhere near the amount of mainstream success. Harper came into the league with hype, lived up to it (though he's no where near Trout's level), and was able to help the Phillies sell tickets and jerseys. He's the last of that breed in baseball, as of today. As far as post season success in general, you have to look at the time period. Griffey was a superstar before his team was ever good, but baseball was a lot more popular in general back then. It was easier to become a mainstream baseball star in the 80's-00's without being in the playoffs routinely, and certainly before that when they were the biggest sport in the country. Nowadays how many players aside from Bryce can get any type of mainstream publicity? Aaron Judge might be the closest one but he only started getting that during the HR derby and the Yankees becoming good again. Plus, he's on the Yankees. I see Christian Yelich on ESPN quite a bit as well, and that's only when he went to the Brewers and he started getting more shine on a better team. He was a no name in Miami (granted he got a lot better with the Brewers as well). In basketball, Zion could miss the playoffs every year, or be first round and out repeatedly, and still be a star. Baseball doesn't have that. Either you have to have a giant personality + be in the mainstream spotlight more often (playoffs), or you'll be Mike Trout. Being in the playoffs alone is not the argument here. Lots of good players make the playoffs and are not known. With Trout, he needs to make the playoffs more just so more people see him, among other factors. There is no real correlation between being in the playoffs and being a star though. You just noted that nobody in baseball at all anymore really breaks through. Yelich added 40 points to his BA and doubled his HRs in Milwaukee and became an All Star. That's kinda like saying David Ortiz only got bigger profile when he went to bigger market Boston, only having a little bit to do with the fact that he was WILDLY better. Altuve and Springer and Bregman are rock stars in the playoffs, and I can't even remember the last time I saw them on TV other than in Astros highlights. David Wright and Thor were way more marketable and barely ever made the playoffs. It helps otherwise marketable players if they also do well in the playoffs, but other than that seems to have no bearing on how the mainstream views anyone. Bryce will likely be the biggest star of the next 5 years, even if he doesn't play in another playoff game. Nobody sees Bryce and says, "Hey you're that guy who hit .211 in the playoffs!"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2020 21:13:45 GMT -5
Trout's lack of success ON TOP of his introverted personality is the reason why he, without MLB's help, can't get more popular. The difference with Harper is that Bryce has an outgoing personality, and he was hyped up like the baseball version of LeBron in 2009-10. I believe there was an article about him being baseball's "Chosen One" before he was drafted. Plus the Nationals were really good with Harper, they just never won the WS. Went to the playoffs 4 times in 6 years. That's why I said earlier the last mainstream star MLB ever had is Harper. Everyone after him has not been able to have anywhere near the amount of mainstream success. Harper came into the league with hype, lived up to it (though he's no where near Trout's level), and was able to help the Phillies sell tickets and jerseys. He's the last of that breed in baseball, as of today. As far as post season success in general, you have to look at the time period. Griffey was a superstar before his team was ever good, but baseball was a lot more popular in general back then. It was easier to become a mainstream baseball star in the 80's-00's without being in the playoffs routinely, and certainly before that when they were the biggest sport in the country. Nowadays how many players aside from Bryce can get any type of mainstream publicity? Aaron Judge might be the closest one but he only started getting that during the HR derby and the Yankees becoming good again. Plus, he's on the Yankees. I see Christian Yelich on ESPN quite a bit as well, and that's only when he went to the Brewers and he started getting more shine on a better team. He was a no name in Miami (granted he got a lot better with the Brewers as well). In basketball, Zion could miss the playoffs every year, or be first round and out repeatedly, and still be a star. Baseball doesn't have that. Either you have to have a giant personality + be in the mainstream spotlight more often (playoffs), or you'll be Mike Trout. Being in the playoffs alone is not the argument here. Lots of good players make the playoffs and are not known. With Trout, he needs to make the playoffs more just so more people see him, among other factors. There is no real correlation between being in the playoffs and being a star though. You just noted that nobody in baseball at all anymore really breaks through. Yelich added 40 points to his BA and doubled his HRs in Milwaukee and became an All Star. That's kinda like saying David Ortiz only got bigger profile when he went to bigger market Boston, only having a little bit to do with the fact that he was WILDLY better. Altuve and Springer and Bregman are rock stars in the playoffs, and I can't even remember the last time I saw them on TV other than in Astros highlights. David Wright and Thor were way more marketable and barely ever made the playoffs. It helps otherwise marketable players if they also do well in the playoffs, but other than that seems to have no bearing on how the mainstream views anyone. Bryce will likely be the biggest star of the next 5 years, even if he doesn't play in another playoff game. Nobody sees Bryce and says, "Hey you're that guy who hit .211 in the playoffs!" Ortiz was an average player at best in Minnesota so there was no reason for him to be highly regarded. Yelich was putting up 5+ WAR seasons in Miami. Yes he went to a different level with the Brewers, but if he became that 40 HR/7+ WAR player in Miami, he would have been just as ignored as he was previously. Hell, Stanton almost hit 60 home runs in his final season in Miami and had (to that point) the biggest contract in MLB history, yet I don't think he was known much at all outside of baseball fans. I don't disagree with your general point. I don't think making the playoffs alone is going to make someone a bigger star either. However, if you're a generational star in today's MLB, and you are devoid of a marketable personality or don't have a strong marketing machine being behind you, then the only way to get more national eye balls on some of these players is if they make the playoffs. Would that guarantee being a bigger star in the mainstream? Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to compare eras because the game is not nearly as popular as it used to be. Maybe baseball is at a point where it's going to be impossible to have another mainstream star unless they catch lightning in a bottle and they get someone heavily hyped pre-draft and he ends up having LeBron's personality combined with Trout's talent. Even then, I don't know how strong MLB is with young and pop culture for that player to be given the respect he would deserve. Regardless, my point was simply if Trout was on better teams that made the playoffs more frequently, more people would probably know who he is. Not saying that alone would have elevated him, but it couldn't hurt.
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Post by Steveweiser on Jun 8, 2020 10:24:43 GMT -5
Tweet from Karl Ravech at ESPN:
"MLB has made proposal to Players. 75 percent Prorated salary. 76 game season. Playoff pool money. No draft pick compensation for signing player. Season finishes September 27th. Post season ends at end of October. Significant move towards players demands and effort to play more."
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Post by sfvega on Jun 8, 2020 11:22:07 GMT -5
There is no real correlation between being in the playoffs and being a star though. You just noted that nobody in baseball at all anymore really breaks through. Yelich added 40 points to his BA and doubled his HRs in Milwaukee and became an All Star. That's kinda like saying David Ortiz only got bigger profile when he went to bigger market Boston, only having a little bit to do with the fact that he was WILDLY better. Altuve and Springer and Bregman are rock stars in the playoffs, and I can't even remember the last time I saw them on TV other than in Astros highlights. David Wright and Thor were way more marketable and barely ever made the playoffs. It helps otherwise marketable players if they also do well in the playoffs, but other than that seems to have no bearing on how the mainstream views anyone. Bryce will likely be the biggest star of the next 5 years, even if he doesn't play in another playoff game. Nobody sees Bryce and says, "Hey you're that guy who hit .211 in the playoffs!" Ortiz was an average player at best in Minnesota so there was no reason for him to be highly regarded. Yelich was putting up 5+ WAR seasons in Miami. Yes he went to a different level with the Brewers, but if he became that 40 HR/7+ WAR player in Miami, he would have been just as ignored as he was previously. Hell, Stanton almost hit 60 home runs in his final season in Miami and had (to that point) the biggest contract in MLB history, yet I don't think he was known much at all outside of baseball fans. I don't disagree with your general point. I don't think making the playoffs alone is going to make someone a bigger star either. However, if you're a generational star in today's MLB, and you are devoid of a marketable personality or don't have a strong marketing machine being behind you, then the only way to get more national eye balls on some of these players is if they make the playoffs. Would that guarantee being a bigger star in the mainstream? Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to compare eras because the game is not nearly as popular as it used to be. Maybe baseball is at a point where it's going to be impossible to have another mainstream star unless they catch lightning in a bottle and they get someone heavily hyped pre-draft and he ends up having LeBron's personality combined with Trout's talent. Even then, I don't know how strong MLB is with young and pop culture for that player to be given the respect he would deserve. Regardless, my point was simply if Trout was on better teams that made the playoffs more frequently, more people would probably know who he is. Not saying that alone would have elevated him, but it couldn't hurt. Hell, Ozuna put up a 5+ WAR season and left and got noticably worse. Now, he plays in a bigger market than Yelich, but we know who is going to get more pub and why. I STILL don't think Stanton is known much outside of baseball fans. And honestly, I think at this point October casts more of a net over ALL baseball fans than it does a bunch of baseball fans and a bunch of non-baseball fans. Same with the NHL, it's a strong niche but it's very much becoming a niche sport that struggles to reach anything outside of their scope. By October, college football and the NFL are going, UFC never stops, NHL has started, NBA camps are open, NCAAB is starting. It's not this giant platform that it was when I was a kid. Juan Soto isn't a made man the way he would be if this were the NFL or NBA playoffs. Would Trout see more eyes in October? Yes. Would he still be a long way from anything near a mid-tier mainstream star like a Russell Wilson? Yes, quite obviously. That to me says that his personality and his inability to market himself (or rather care to market himself) is bigger than being on middling teams. The AL West is a ghost town for press and TV anyway. He'd get just as much coverage going to the AL East or the NL East as he would getting to the playoffs. Probably much more.
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Post by andrew8798 on Jun 8, 2020 15:09:37 GMT -5
@bnightengale
The proposal also requires the players to sign an acknowledgement of risk waiver while playing games during this pandemic.
Yeah don't expect a season
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Post by Vampiro138 on Jun 8, 2020 15:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2020 20:26:50 GMT -5
@bnightengale The proposal also requires the players to sign an acknowledgement of risk waiver while playing games during this pandemic. Yeah don't expect a season And that pretty much does it.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 8, 2020 20:31:45 GMT -5
Under no circumstances will 0 MLB games be played this year That is no hyperbole a death sentence for MLB if they don't get a season this year I repeat until I stand corrected
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2020 8:47:16 GMT -5
Under no circumstances will 0 MLB games be played this year That is no hyperbole a death sentence for MLB if they don't get a season this year I repeat until I stand corrected Yeah, worst case they play some ridiculously low number (48-50 games) and have no expanded playoffs. I believe Manfred would be allowed to enforce that and players either have to play or strike. Seems like MLB is delaying this in hopes of getting the players to cave for a long season without prorating their 2020 salaries. That probably won’t happen, so the 48-50 game season is what they’ll fall back on. I agree with you, there will definitely be baseball. The question is by the time they announce it and start it, will people care? They really needed to start the season on July 4 weekend. Even if it was a 50 game season, they should have planned it for that date and had it end early. Having that one month with no competition and being able to start on Independence Day as “America’s National Pastime” was the most logical marketing ploy ever. Can’t believe they missed that, but maybe I shouldn’t be surprised.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 9, 2020 11:45:29 GMT -5
I repeat until I stand corrected Yeah, worst case they play some ridiculously low number (48-50 games) and have no expanded playoffs. I believe Manfred would be allowed to enforce that and players either have to play or strike. Seems like MLB is delaying this in hopes of getting the players to cave for a long season without prorating their 2020 salaries. That probably won’t happen, so the 48-50 game season is what they’ll fall back on. I agree with you, there will definitely be baseball. The question is by the time they announce it and start it, will people care? They really needed to start the season on July 4 weekend. Even if it was a 50 game season, they should have planned it for that date and had it end early. Having that one month with no competition and being able to start on Independence Day as “America’s National Pastime” was the most logical marketing ploy ever. Can’t believe they missed that, but maybe I shouldn’t be surprised. Ultimately, they are arguing over "cents" that won't really cost them nothing in the long run. Get these players paid a good portion of the salary they are owed because the money you would save is not worth losing a season on
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Post by Perd on Jun 9, 2020 13:24:27 GMT -5
Yeah, I think we are headed for a 48-52 game season. I really hope they can still come to terms on a longer season, but each passing day makes that less and less likely.
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Jun 9, 2020 13:30:31 GMT -5
There have been several articles on the negotiations and they all repeat the same pro-ownership talking points. Almost verbatim.
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