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Post by Yacht Persona on Mar 24, 2020 6:02:22 GMT -5
Man, I love Jake, but he is one of the biggest offenders of telling tall tales. It seems to he more common from the older guys, especially those with an axe to grind.
Beefcake is another one, and I have a hard time believing anything Superstar Graham says. Kevin Nash is another one that I sense has a serious case of revisionist history, or convenient memory loss.
Who are some others?
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Post by The Barber on Mar 24, 2020 6:06:38 GMT -5
Bruce Pritchard.
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Post by chazraps on Mar 24, 2020 6:10:41 GMT -5
I think a distinction is to be made between those who are outright lying and those who are either firmly misremembering or were in an environment where their perception was so skewed that they truly believe the falsehoods are fact.
Paul Heyman's outright lies in his 2015 WWE documentary, despite not being a shoot per se, has to put him up there. Just easily refutable stories soon as you ask a source outside the wrestling bubble, and then when you look back on his initial claim you feel stupid for believing it.
Kevin Nash, again a very entertaining shoot, is pretty off base quite a bit as you've noted. It might be that he just doesn't care about certain things and wants to give the most entertaining answer, but he's up there.
Teddy Hart is a unique case of someone whose answer will be something totally untruthful, but it won't have anything to do with the question asked, so technically it's not so much a lie as an idiotic non-sequitor.
And, of course, Billy Jack Haynes and V*nc* R*ss* are such liars that liar doesn't feel like a strong enough word.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 24, 2020 6:16:00 GMT -5
"Raging Bull" (appropriate nickname) Manny Fernandez and Black Bart are the two that come to mind for me as far as being big time bull shitters goes. Bart claimed that the Undertaker gimmick was originally meant for him and Fernandez said that his midcard match with Abdullah the Butcher was supposed to main event Starrcade '84 but Flair and Dusty politicked to get it instead.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 24, 2020 6:16:33 GMT -5
I'd say Haynes, but lying implies a capacity to know what truth even is, and I don't know if he does at this point.
Kevin Kelly talking about the divas feels very much like Dustin Diamond's Saved by the Bell book where he insists that everyone was having nonstop orgies, but anyone else involved says they were lying, gravely misinformed, or delusional.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 24, 2020 6:17:05 GMT -5
"Raging Bull" (appropriate nickname) Manny Fernandez and Black Bart are the two that come to mind for me as far as being big time bull shitters goes. Bart claimed that the Undertaker was originally meant for him and Fernandez said that his midcard match with Abdullah the Butcher was supposed to main event Starrcade '84 but Flair and Dusty politicked to get it instead. Manny is definitely legendarily full of shit.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Mar 24, 2020 6:17:36 GMT -5
not in a shoot video but Vince McMahon saying in an interview that he believes you should never try and hurt the competition
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Post by Yacht Persona on Mar 24, 2020 6:28:00 GMT -5
Marty Jannetty also seems like he just comes up with these wild anecdotes that no one else has ever mentioned in other shoots.
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 24, 2020 6:30:48 GMT -5
Well brother, Andre was 600 pounds brother, I was almost the bassist for Metallica brother, and Arsenio Hall brother, just three times for injuries brother.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 24, 2020 6:31:19 GMT -5
not in a shoot video but Vince McMahon saying in an interview that he believes you should never try and hurt the competition Definitely a crock of shit. Like, Vince has sometimes shown some benevolence, like helping SMW, USWA, or ECW, but it isn't like he didn't also benefit from relationships with them.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Mar 24, 2020 6:34:18 GMT -5
"Raging Bull" (appropriate nickname) Manny Fernandez and Black Bart are the two that come to mind for me as far as being big time bull shitters goes. Bart claimed that the Undertaker was originally meant for him and Fernandez said that his midcard match with Abdullah the Butcher was supposed to main event Starrcade '84 but Flair and Dusty politicked to get it instead. Manny is definitely legendarily full of shit. Another Manny tall tale according to Animal in his book is that he would actually would go around saying that he was the same Manny Fernandez that was on the Miami Dolphins during their Super Bowl run in the early 70's (even though they look nothing alike and are eight years apart in age) until Animal called him out on it. It's really hard getting through interviews with him between the ridiculous claims and him just coming off as very full of himself. Apparently he was so insufferable that Nikolai Volkoff (who by all accounts was a total sweetheart of a guy) beat the crap out of him after he was being a jerk to him during their match.
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Post by toodarkmark on Mar 24, 2020 6:39:51 GMT -5
not in a shoot video but Vince McMahon saying in an interview that he believes you should never try and hurt the competition Definitely a crock of shit. Like, Vince has sometimes shown some benevolence, like helping SMW, USWA, or ECW, but it isn't like he didn't also benefit from relationships with them. All three going out of business with their top creators going to work for him afterwards.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Mar 24, 2020 6:41:53 GMT -5
Definitely a crock of shit. Like, Vince has sometimes shown some benevolence, like helping SMW, USWA, or ECW, but it isn't like he didn't also benefit from relationships with them. All three going out of business with their top creators going to work for him afterwards. What a coincidence! Yeah coincidence...
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Post by 67 more on Mar 24, 2020 7:38:59 GMT -5
Self-admittedly, Sunny, who admitted in a shoot interview that she lies in all her shoot interviews.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 24, 2020 8:11:45 GMT -5
Either Greg Gagne is prone to telling some tall tales or apparently he was partially responsible for Hogan getting in WCW, the creation of the nWo, and mixed martial arts becoming big in the US.
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Post by realist on Mar 24, 2020 8:30:02 GMT -5
Either Greg Gagne is prone to telling some tall tales or apparently we was partially responsible for Hogan getting in WCW, the creation of the nWo, and mixed martial arts becoming big in the US. I came here to add Mike Graham and Greg Gagne to the list. They both tell separate tales of how they (not Eric Bischoff) were responsible for WCW filming at Disney, landing Hulk Hogan, and the NWO. Basically, anything good that WCW did was because of either Greg or Mike, depending on who you believe. But everything bad that happened was because they were no longer there.
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Post by Awesome Andy on Mar 24, 2020 8:47:44 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff's "I don't remember"-Schtick has to count here. He lies a lot and if he feels that Conrad would bust him - he just can't remember. Or that he very, very often says a lot to not having to straight answer a question. That's why I find his podcast unbearable. And I tried, I really did.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Mar 24, 2020 8:50:58 GMT -5
Either Greg Gagne is prone to telling some tall tales or apparently we was partially responsible for Hogan getting in WCW, the creation of the nWo, and mixed martial arts becoming big in the US. I came here to add Mike Graham and Greg Gagne to the list. They both tell separate tales of how they (not Eric Bischoff) were responsible for WCW filming at Disney, landing Hulk Hogan, and the NWO. Basically, anything good that WCW did was because of either Greg or Mike, depending on who you believe. But everything bad that happened was because they were no longer there. My favorite is Greg Gagne's claim that Hogan & Heenan were going to return to the AWA in 1990.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Mar 24, 2020 9:03:27 GMT -5
Manny Fernandez claiming that he went to Vietnam and that he even has a piece of shrapnel stuck in his chest.
Teddy Hart opening his mouth.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 24, 2020 9:14:45 GMT -5
Eric Bischoff's "I don't remember"-Schtick has to count here. He lies a lot and if he feels that Conrad would bust him - he just can't remember. Or that he very, very often says a lot to not having to straight answer a question. That's why I find his podcast unbearable. And I tried, I really did. Its not quite the same thing, but Vince Russo does a similar kind of obfuscation, basically either bringing up unrelated points to divert criticisms or describing the bad conditions of a company to either excuse his results/demonstrate how didn't make things any worse than they were. If you hear "and I'm going be straight and this is the god's honest truth bro", you can basically dismiss everything that's said in the five minutes after.
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